today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one! -- The followi

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Terri Stimmel
Hello Sieghard, and list. Are you really all that surprised? Or, were you being sarcastic? I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing grand, I don't think. I am actually tryin

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Marco Curralejo
Overpriced and nothing really that exciting. Seems to be a yearly occurrence. šŸ˜Š From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: today's Apple Event Hello Sieghard, and list. Are you

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alex Stone
Oh, how people do love to whine!On 13 Sep 2023, at 08:33, Marco Curralejo wrote:ļ»æOverpriced and nothing really that exciting.Ā Seems to be a yearly occurrence. šŸ˜ŠĀ From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Terri StimmelSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:32 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject:

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Gallik
Sieghard et al, After listening to the event itā€™s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features. Iā€™m trying to decide if Iā€™d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead. The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resoluti

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Bill.Ā  I just upgraded from a 12 Pro to a 14 Pro.Ā  I read the rumors about the new iPhones and decided the 14 Pro would be enough of an improvement from my old phone. It's faster, naturally, and the updated LiDar is neat, but otherwise, it wasn't a a huge step up from the 12 Pro phone.

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Ryan Mann
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2. Ā There is a USBC port with USBC speeds. Ā It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technolo

How do I copy and paste a link

2023-09-13 Thread realman02 via VIPhone
Hi. I need to copy a link from an email and paste it into a podcast app to regain my subscription to a podcast. I did it once but have forgotten how to do that. How do I copy a link form an email and paste it into a podcast app (overcast)? Thanks. John Riehl -- The following information is i

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Gerardo Corripio
With all of the filtering done beforehand, these events are just not that exciting/surprising anymore. Too yes overpriced, like who would want to spend out of pocket almost 2mxn for an iPhone 15, when they're cheaper options out there? These newer iPhones would be afordable via plans from the c

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Sieghard,Ā I have to agree with Bill that it seemed obvious that most of the excitement at least to the sighted world is all about the camera enhancements and features. It almost sounds as if Apple's ultimate goal is to design a phone so that users can take amazing photos whether they are intelli

Re: iOs doorbell

2023-09-13 Thread Dave Grossoehme
Is there some hesitation from your iPhone between when the bell is rung and when your phone let's you answer it?Ā  I've spoken to others that claim this. Dave On 9/8/2023 8:35 AM, Star Gazer wrote: We have a Ring doorbell and you can have it ring through your phone an

Re: How do I copy and paste a link

2023-09-13 Thread Jody ianuzzi
Go to the link that you would like to copy and do a three finger quadruple tap on the link. This will copy it to the clipboard. Then go to where you wanna paste the link and use your rotor to go to edit, then swipe down till you hear it say paste.JODYTo Boldly Go Ā šŸ––šŸ»Ā thunderwalker...@gmail.comĀ "Wha

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Ryan,Ā I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USBā€‘C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Scott Davert
Sieghard. I think 2 things are happening here. First, as others have pointed out, the excitement factor just isn't there as it once was. Second, not as many people seem to post on mailing lists as often. I seem to recall a similar sentiment about no one talking about the keynote last year either. T

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Kimberly Gardner
I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to

Today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alan Lemly
Please don't hijack threads by replying to a post discussing Apple's iPhone event yesterday and changing the subject to how to copy and paste a link. This really messes up the thread for those of us who manage our email by thread.Ā Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.Ā Alan LemlyĀ Sent from

Re: finding my groups in Facebook

2023-09-13 Thread Kimberly Gardner
I think this is a result of a change in the app. You used to be able to scroll past the suggested groups and find a link for all the groups you already belong to but not anymore. What I do now is perform a search on the group I want and it is usually the first result. Admittedly this will be a pain

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Matt White
It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess weā€™ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly wrote:ļ»æHi Ryan,Ā I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum

RE: finding my groups in Facebook

2023-09-13 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Thanks for this tip. Really iuseful! Alison -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kimberly Gardner Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 4:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: finding my groups in Facebook I think this is a result of a change in the ap

New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Jen .
Hi, Is there anywhere I can hear the new ring and alert tones that will be available in iOS 17. Jen -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inapp

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alan Lemly
To get USB 3 speeds, I believe a different, more expensive cable is required. But I don't use a Mac, am unfamiliar with the speed differences between USB 2 and 3, so am not in a position to comment further. A standard USB C cable can certainly be used with the iPhone 15 models since they have the s

RE: iOs doorbell

2023-09-13 Thread CristĆ³bal MuƱoz
Enough of a lag that it's the exception more than the rule that you can actually catch whoever rang the doorbell to inquire who it is or what they needed. Big brother concerns aside, whenever our Ring gives up the ghost, we'll probably opt for the Nest Doorbell. Facial recognition, detect if it

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Dennis Long
I also could care less about the green crap that was the most boring part of the event. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kimberly Gardner Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: today's Apple Event I thought t

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Since we're tossing out our opinions here, I do care about the work Apple and others are doing with carbon footprints and green initiatives. There's only so much individuals can do, so companies like Apple need to be a big part of the solution. Since this feels a little off topic to me, I won't

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Star Gazer
Thatā€™s my thinking, weā€™ll be charging with usbc v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we donā€™t want to Bluetooth? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Matt White Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM To: viphone

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
There are already USB-C headphones out there since other manufacturers dropped the audio jack and didnā€™t use the proprietary Lightning connector. I think Iā€™ve also read that Apple, and Iā€™m sure others, have a Lightning to USB-C adapter. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>Ć· Chaltain at Outlook, USA From:

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread tai.tomasi8
I believe we can plug in USB C headphones From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: today's Apple Event Thatā€™s my thinking, weā€™ll be charging with usbc v. wh

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alan Lemly
Star Gazer,Ā If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazo

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Dan Yates
I am very interested in this, as well! Iā€™ve often wondered why the existing ringtones and alerts have not been modified overtime. Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Jen . wrote: > > ļ»æHi, > Is there anywhere I can hear the new ring and alert tones that will be > availabl

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Jessica Dail
Hi, I love the new ringtones, but have discovered something very bizarre. If youā€™ve purchased a Ringtone from the iTunes Store, or created one yourself, from a song you purchased, it does not show up under the alerts section. However, if you go under ringtones, everything is there. Why might this

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Alex Stone
Probably because Apple want to encourage people to keep buying new ringtones, but I agree, the ringtones that come with ios are getting a bit old. > On 13 Sep 2023, at 19:01, Dan Yates wrote: > > ļ»æI am very interested in this, as well! Iā€™ve often wondered why the existing > ringtones and alert

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Julian
Hi Jessica, I am having the same problem as well. This must be a bug that will hopefully be fixed soon, I'm definitely going to file a report on it today via the feedback app. I think it was a not so smart idea of Apple to introduce the new ringtones during the release candidate as this did not

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Dennis Long
They need to add an option to set the notification tone back to the original tone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Julian Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Ring Tones Hi Jessica, I am having the same

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Star Gazer
Thank you. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: today's Apple Event Star Gazer, If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, you'll need to acqui

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Karen Poulakos
Am I missing something? (smile) Do new ring tones download with a new update? I've had the same ring tones for years. I recently updated to IOS 16.6.1, and no new ring tones. Karen P -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Den

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Richard Turner
Apparently, they may include some new ones in iOS 17, but certainly 16.x has all the same old, same old. Richard, USA. ā€œReality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.ā€ -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.t

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread davycuppens
There is even no iphone15 pro max? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Kimberly Gardner Verzonden: woensdag 13 september 2023 16:58 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: today's Apple Event I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
As for actually buying a new phone that all depends on what you have now. In the last few years I usually purchased last year's Pro phone because I find more and more that you end up getting a better phone for the same or even less money. Consider last year's iPhone 14 and the 2021 iPhone 13 Pr

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Flor Lynch
There is. Apple talked about it, and there are articles you can find on Appple.com about it. On 9/13/2023 9:56 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote: There is even no iphone15 pro max? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Kimberly Gardner Verzonden: woensdag 13 sep

RE: iOs doorbell

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have a Ring Pro at home and the Nest Video Doorbell at the backdoor of my retail business. Both have their good and bad points and I don't necessarily find it is easier to quickly answer the Nest Doorbell as it is to answwer the Ring. There is actually no lag, but I find as a blind iPhone user

RE: iOs doorbell

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
For us the notification is almost instant if I press the doorbell button. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Grossoehme Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Star Gazer Subject: Re: iOs doorbell Is there some hesitati

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I think it's totally OK for ringtones to only show up under Ringtones and not Alert tones since a ringtone is usually longer, if I make my own I typically make them as long as possible whichis 40 seconds. Who wants a 40 second tone or even a 10 second tone when a message or email comes in, for t

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You can always make your own or download them, there are thousands and thousands available from many places online. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan Yates Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Ring Ton

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Of course there is, they talked about it during the event as it is the only phone which gets the new action button and the periscope zoom lense. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:57 PM To: viphone@g

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Alan, if the adapter costs $29 I would just buy the new wired Earpods with USB-C connector which Apple said during the presentation they will offer and I would imagine that they are also $29 and then you have a new headset for the same price and you don't have to deal with an adapter. From: vip

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action button? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ryan Mann Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: today's Apple Event There are a couple things I like about the iPhon

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max are able to transfer at faster speeds, it was mentioned during the keynote and I wouldn't be surprised that any speed reduction is software based and if that is true then Apple could decide at any time to remove that bottleneck. As I said before, for me the regular

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
As far as I know, these are new ring tones for IOS 17. I have the IOS 17 RC, and I reset all of my alerts and my ring tone last night. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>Ć· Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, Sep

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Sieghard,Ā Both 15 Pro models have the action button.Ā And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would be more economical, just less green.Ā AlanĀ Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:ļ»æ I might be wrong here, but I thought onl

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Alan, I absolutely agree that the camera performance plays a big role in their design and marketing because that is what people want. The switch to USB-C is of course only a good thing, if I bought a new phone I wouldn't even have to bother about any cables because I have plenty of USB-C cables,

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
But as with all things there will be cheaper and less expensive options in time and you really only need such a cable if you use a wired connection to a computer to transfer large files which most people don't do. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Wednesday, Septembe

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Maybe so, but my post now ignited a fairly active and fun discussion. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: today's Apple Event Sieghard. I think 2 things are happ

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Peter Logan
I agree, however tones which I purchased from ITunes are also not showing up in the Tones section, so I think there might be a bug happening .. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:25 PM To: viphone@google

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
One person who couldn't care less about "all that green stuff" as you call it is insignificant, but 100 Million or 1 Billion people not caring makes a big difference. If one person threw their empty plastic water bottle out of the window driving along a highway it would be insignificant, but unf

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: today's Apple Ev

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Peter Logan
Should have run the "Google Machine" before replying .. seems that in the IOS 17 RC .. it's missing custom ring tones .. Guessing that it's a bug . and will be fixed .. -Original Message- From: Peter Logan Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subjec

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have updated to the RC yesterday and I just checked and all my custom ringtones are there. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Peter Logan Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: New Ring Tones Should have run

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread matthew dyer
Hi, Regarding the excitement not being there has to do with so much being leaked well before the announcement. As a result announcements are not as big as they used to be since they leak so much out by the media. Matthew On Sep 13, 2023, at 6:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I don't think i

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear buds, and I didnā€™t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. Since Iā€™ll be holding

RE: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Peter Logan
What about tones? Thos are what seem to be missing. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 6:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: New Ring Tones I have updated to the RC yesterday and I just checked

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Brent Harding
It will be a bit of a bummer for those of us with the lightning Airpods cases once one upgrades to the new phone. I literally donā€™t have anything else that uses lightning around here except that and the phone, and I donā€™t want to carry two cords when I visit family for a weekend or whatever wher

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Alex Stone
On 13 Sep 2023, at 23:31, Brent Harding wrote:ļ»æIt will be a bit of a bummer for those of us with the lightning Airpods cases once one upgrades to the new phone. I literally donā€™t have anything else that uses lightning around here except that and the phone, and I donā€™t want to carry two cords when

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Joe Orozco
Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds > with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the > passive noise cancellation for th

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Julian
Hi Joe, I am definitely planning to go for the 15 Pro. I currently have the SE 2022. I'm looking forward to playing with lidar and goodies like that. I will miss the convenience of touch ID, but what can we do, Apple has decided this is the path forward to stick with Face ID. Sent from my iPhon

RE: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread tai.tomasi8
I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both performance and battery life will be much better on the 15. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Wednesday, Sep

France discontinuing sale of I-Phone 12

2023-09-13 Thread danneyyates
I heard a news item today reporting that France was not going to allow any more sales of the I-Phone 12 due to what they consider high levels of radiation. As an I-Phone 12 mini owner myself, I was curious about this. Anyone else heard of these type issues with this particular phone? Dan Yates

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Here is a recording I made today. http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_New_RingTones.mp3 - Original Message - From: "Jen ." To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:50 AM Subject: New Ring Tones Hi, Is there anywhere I can hear the new ring and alert tones that will be available in iOS

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Here is a recording I made today. http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_New_RingTones.mp3 - Original Message - From: "Jen ." To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:50 AM Subject: New Ring Tones Hi, Is there anywhere I can hear the new ring and alert tones that will be available in iOS

RE: finding my groups in Facebook

2023-09-13 Thread R Van Lant
Click the Facebook Menu tab, which is the one at the far right of the buttons along the bottom. I then click the ā€œTop Shortcuts button and can find the ā€œGroupsā€ button there. As I tested this just now, I also see a Groups button just below my ā€œTop Shortcutsā€ button. Sometimes I think I have ha

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks Robert, Some of those were very short while others very long ... were some alert tones and some ringtones? Richard, USA ā€”ā€” "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." ā€” John Wesley (Sent from my iPhone) > On Sep 13, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Robert Doc Wright > wrote: > >

Re: New Ring Tones

2023-09-13 Thread Jen .
Hi, Thanks for sharing. A good mix as well. Jen > On Sep 13, 2023, at 9:21 PM, Robert Doc Wright > wrote: > > ļ»æHere is a recording I made today. > > http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_New_RingTones.mp3 > > - Original Message - > From: "Jen ." > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 20

Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I would certainly upgrade. I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro max, and the improvements are very cool. The battery life is much better and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!! On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com wrote: > I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have