to malicious
code should have their keyboards zap them!
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Flor Lynch
*Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:06 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Sorry, but since
Thanks Sieghard and all, we're all sorted now and Rose has the pre-order done.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 5/08/2014, at 5:08 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Hello Rose and Betty,
Jonathan offered to
Amen! Glad she was able to get it done!
Lucy Edmonds
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Thanks Sieghard
mailto:roseco...@q.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I did all you suggested more than once. It just did not work but in a few
days when I have time I will try once again. I never truly intended
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Sorry, but since Microsoft is often a target, in such case I wouldn't
'bank' on it not being broken or hacked
Not going to post office, nearest one is too far to walk in 110 heat.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi,
Have you tried simply paying with your credit card? Its an option.
Ron Danvers
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8
Hello Rose and Betty,
Jonathan offered to call you and to take your information over the phone. In
order to make this as easy as possible, here is a link which takes you
directly to the Contact form on Jonathan's website. All you have to enter is
your name, your email and the nature of your
@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio
CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions
for iPhone?
I was already signed up when I got a smartphone
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kathy and Wilda
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I also just tried and I had the same problem. I wrote them and they said
they were not having problems with the Guest PayPal. I
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi rose. Thought I'd weigh in here. I ordered the book on Jonathan's site
with no problem at all. You don't have to fool with pay
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I purchased the book with no problems when J Mosen posted this. Payed with my
paypal account using the safari browser on the iphone
the image, If I can’t I used to have help now I
don’t.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be
worth it. they and we need security, so some sort
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
has anyone tried the Rumola CAPTCHA solution service? It is supposed to be
able to work on iPhone.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
Consultant
http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us
lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com
407-276-4173
Wonderful scents without the flame.
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
They need to make security accessible
.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured
but not today.
Off to work.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 5:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Rose,
Many sites, including Google, have an alternative way which is to have a text
sent to your phone with the code. I have used
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michelle Bernstein
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
To respond to Rose's comment about partially sighted people, I am someone who
is losing my vision
, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I did all you suggested more than once. It just did not work but in a few
days when I have time I will try once again. I never truly intended to get an
account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA
also if this could include a phone numberr
Betty Emmons
- Original Message -
From: Michelle Bernstein
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
To respond to Rose's comment about partially
are harder to
resolve, because they are dynamic (i.e. changing within a short time), than
others are.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
The phone number is in New Zealand, although, knowing Jonathon he probably has
a Skype number he could use.
Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Betty Emmons
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8
the book.
Betty emmons
- Original Message -
From: Fred Olver
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
The phone number is in New Zealand, although, knowing Jonathon he probably
has a Skype
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michelle Bernstein
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
The one thing that I would point out is that when I tried twice to order the
book, both times the quantity of books
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be
worth
I don't want to send money through the mail, and do not want to write a
check.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without
: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:14 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I don't want to send money through the mail, and do not want to write a
check.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Fred Olver
Sent: Sunday
Sorry, but since Microsoft is often a target, in such case I wouldn't 'bank'
on it not being broken or hacked into by spammers.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open
@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cheryl Homiak
Sent
it
before.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use
I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all
fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an
ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to
get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues,
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the
book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting
I have wanted the phone number for the book sellar.
Betty Emmons
P.S. I also have had trouble with paypal
betty
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without
order on the web and it should go just fine.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I guess unless I can get
would for any
order on the web and it should go just fine.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I guess
that option when I
got iOS7 Without the eyes.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running
has anyone tried the Rumola CAPTCHA solution service? It is supposed to be able
to work on iPhone.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I am
...@iol.ie wrote:
has anyone tried the Rumola CAPTCHA solution service? It is supposed to be
able to work on iPhone.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I
: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Go to http://www.paypal.com
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:44 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
How do you find
] On Behalf Of
Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Go to http://www.paypal.com
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:44
No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without
I have a problem, I want to preorder, but don't to my knowledge have a
PayPal account. I tried to be a guest for now, it tells me info is missing
but, I can't see it, every field has the correct info. I know last year my
husband bought the book for me on his PayPal account, but he passed May
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I have a problem, I want to preorder, but don't to my knowledge have a
PayPal account. I tried to be a guest for now, it tells me
Go to http://www.paypal.com
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:44 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
How do you find PayPal's site, I tried typing it in, then used Google and I
get
If you have any personal criticisms please write me off list, or you will
end up wasting a great deal of list time.
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open
I am not trying to start a flame war here but I have to put my opinion in on
this matter. I think that it is very rude what Joseph had said. I don't think
that Jonathan is trying to make money off of us I think he's just trying to
sell a book. You don't have to buy that book if you so
Hi everyone, I'm conscious that both our moderators are probably sleeping right
now, and having moderated email lists over many years, I know what an
unpleasant feeling it is to wake up to a list that's gone off the rails. So in
an attempt to prevent that from happening, I thought I would add a
@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi everyone, I'm conscious that both our moderators are probably sleeping
right now, and having moderated email lists over many years, I know what an
unpleasant feeling it is to wake up
.
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi everyone, I'm conscious that both our moderators are probably sleeping
right now, and having
I agree with Jerry here, but I'll let the list moderators deal with the
rudeness on the list.
It is true that a lot of information will show up on this list, and even
more information will be made freely available via podcasts on places
like AppleVis.com. There are some people though who
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
For those not interested in spending their money to get the same information
offered below, don't
PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
If you have any personal criticisms please write me off list, or you will
end up wasting a great deal of list time.
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone
All of this can be boiled down to one simple decision. If you want to buy
Jonathan's book, buy it. If you don't don't. If something doesn't sell, it will
go away. There is nothing wrong with making money if you provide a service that
some people see a need for. To use the term parasite is
.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rich Ring
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open
All of this can be boiled down to one simple decision. If you want to buy
And now that you've all had a go at each other I suggest we get on with
business as usual before we hear the wrath of the moderators! I have purchased
the book just see what is to be said. Joseph, I challenge you to write
something as you say that you are a tech person and then we can see who
Amen, Larry!
Lucy Edmonds
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
However, Jonathan
I agree Teresa!
Lucy Edmonds
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Teresa Cochran
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Joseph, I think it's wrong and mean-spirited
Thanks very much for your post Jonathan! Very well said!
Lucy Edmonds
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi
on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amybillman
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi everyone, I'm conscious
-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I agree with Jerry here, but I'll let the list moderators deal with the
rudeness on the list.
It is true that a lot of information will show up on this list, and even
more information will be made freely available via podcasts on places
like AppleVis.com
is that someone's 'major bug'
often will be another's minor irritant - if even that.
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I agree
leave him and the rest of us
alone about it.
Thanks,
Scott Duck
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi everyone, I'm conscious that both our moderators are probably sleeping
right now, and having moderated email lists over many years, I know what an
unpleasant feeling
Billman
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
As a business owner that markets products to the blind iPhone using
community, I am glad for as many resources as possible to recommend to
customers.
Buy
Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Let's show the same level of compassion toward others that we would like to
receive.
That's something you cannot learn from an iPhone.
Sent from my Verizon
does this store have a phone number?
Betty Emmons
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Mosen
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi Betty, you certainly can, it's still in the Mosen
-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi everyone, I'm conscious that both our moderators are probably sleeping
right now, and having moderated email lists over many years, I know what an
unpleasant feeling it is to wake up to a list that's gone off the rails. So in
an attempt to prevent
, July 29, 2014 1:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Joseph, I think it's wrong and mean-spirited to post the way you did in this
thread. Yes, I know I'm probably opening an explosive can of worms, but I have
to call it as I see
formerly on my
website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!
- Original Message -
From: Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open
And now that you've all had a go at each other I
.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
For what it’s worth, I also feel that was uncalled for. Most of us have
have given it some consideration.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
For what it’s worth, I also feel
@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
As a business owner that markets products to the blind iPhone using
community, I am glad for as many resources as possible to recommend to
customers.
Buy the book if you like
For those not interested in spending their money to get the same information
offered below, don't forget that the first few days of a new iOS release are
some of the busiest days on this list. There are tons of experienced users
here who will provide the exact same information without asking
] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
For those not interested in spending their money to get the same information
offered below, don't forget that the first few days of a new iOS
can we still get 7?
Betty Emmons
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
However, Jonathan writes very well and the book is organized
Message - From: Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
However, Jonathan writes very well and the book is organized and indexed
well for kindle and the material
I purchased the book when the email was posted. I believe this book will be
very useful as I am in the technology field.
Regards, Feliciano
Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Sent from the Super-iPhone
On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
Joseph, I think it's wrong and mean-spirited to post the way you did in this
thread. Yes, I know I'm probably opening an explosive can of worms, but I have
to call it as I see it.
Teresa
We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with
the brain is often called
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