Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Presumably the external band heater is necessary for the smaller E-cat because the internal heater cannot provide enough heat at start up unlike the internal heater of the larger E-cat. So while the external _heater_ may not be necessary, the extra _heat_ is necessary for start-up.  A usefu

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 20:47:11 -0700: Hi, [snip] >As I understand the dynamics of this situation, one cannot pass a current >through a nanopowder without promoting instant agglomeration - which over >time proceeds progressively back into a bulk conductor. > ...perh

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Do we have any idea on what kinds of voltages the heaters are being subjected to??? As I stated in a previous posting, I've tried to look at the oscilloscope screens on some of the videos, but cannot make out the vertical scale nor the timebase scale... As far as the 'ol-timer' Vorts are concern

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Axil Axil
The Principle of operation: (the secret process that makes the Cat-E go) between the small 2.5 kw reactor in which the band heater is used and the 10 kw Cat-E in which only the internal heater is used is the same. Logically, the band heater does not drive or in any way affect the “secret” motive

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com > Surely the whole point would be to create a current through the Ni? Ni is a metal and as such is a reasonable conductor. As a powder it would be less than a solid, but it also has lots of parallel paths. Robin, As I understand the dynamic

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Mark Iverson 1) If there are ANY dielectrics in the path from one heater to the other, then this is a NO GO since one would need a low resistance path. Agreed. One thought that came up in the original posting was the negative, or very low bandgap suggestion, wher

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 22:54:28 -0400: Hi, [snip] >On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:49 PM, wrote: > >> I don't really see the point. Bankrupt is bankrupt. It's not the fault of the >> Euro, and changing currencies isn't going to make any difference. If >> Defkalion >> i

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Mark Iverson > If I might provide some additional thoughts/analysis... > 1) The only way the resistance heaters can 'heat' is if there's a low resistance path thru the heating element (i.e., a large current flow). If that's the case, then I doubt you could gener

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Mark Iverson's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 19:58:17 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Several thoughts: > >1) If there are ANY dielectrics in the path from one heater to the other, then >this is a NO GO since >one would need a low resistance path. > >2) That would require a low resistance (a few ohms

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Sweet Dreams... Of E-Cats jumping over band-gaps! -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent Oh, heck, the ECat is probably a measurement err

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Oh, heck, the ECat is probably a measurement error anyway. I'm going to bed. :-) T

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Several thoughts: 1) If there are ANY dielectrics in the path from one heater to the other, then this is a NO GO since one would need a low resistance path. 2) That would require a low resistance (a few ohms at MOST, if not less) path thru whatever the electric current is traversing... What's t

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:49 PM, wrote: > I don't really see the point. Bankrupt is bankrupt. It's not the fault of the > Euro, and changing currencies isn't going to make any difference. If Defkalion > is playing a part, then Greece's fortunes will turn (it's Nickel reserves are > worth about 3

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Mark Iverson's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 19:39:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] >2) The only way I see to generate a signif potential between the two heaters >is to leave one of the >leads floating, thus, BOTH heater leads are at the same potential. However, >this means there is no >current flo

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 22:25:02 -0400: Hi, [snip] >A protest against austerity measures in Athens. Greece is considering >leaving the euro zone, according to sources in the German government. [snip] I don't really see the point. Bankrupt is bankrupt. It's not the fa

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Jones: If I might provide some additional thoughts/analysis... 1) The only way the resistance heaters can 'heat' is if there's a low resistance path thru the heating element (i.e., a large current flow). If that's the case, then I doubt you could generate any significant voltage potential betw

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > You are saying the patent might be different from the application? How so? We do not know what is in the recently granted patent. Plus we do not know what pressures might have been brought to bear on the patent office to rapidly consider a

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Good find Terry! As I said in previous posting, the Greek govt is facing major financial problems and internal unrest, and given the fact that they may be in posession of the golden egg-laying goose, are going to exploit that opportunity to its fullest. I don't think this latest move is a coinc

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
And what about this little tidbit: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,761201,00.html "Greece Considers Exit from Euro Zone By Christian Reiermann REUTERS A protest against austerity measures in Athens. Greece is considering leaving the euro zone, according to sources in the Germa

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > This is here: > > http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2009125444 > > You can read the whole thing. I assume this is it. > > That's the application. Noone has seen the actual patent #0001387256 > and might not. If I were the Italian government, I would sequester it > fo

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Greece (the government) is in a real financial mess, so there is tremendous pressure to stimulate their economy and get tax revenues up. They've just been handed a goose laying golden eggs... They'd be complete idiots to kill and eat the goose... But governments have done stranger things! -Mar

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> >> Patent number 0001387256/ April 6th 2011 on the WIPO application >> number MI2008A 000629 > > This is here: > http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2009125444 > You can read the wh

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > You lost me. What is the Grik web site? Greek? What site? "Defkalion Green Technologies S.A. is a legal entity operating under Greek Law with sole purpose to sell, license, and manufacture industrialized commercially applicable products usin

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > Patent number 0001387256/ April 6th 2011 on the WIPO application > number MI2008A 000629 > This is here: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2009125444 You can read the whole thing. I assume this is it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > > Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? > > Nope. The form says "issued" and a new number is applied. From the > Grik web site: > You lost me. What is the Grik web site? Greek? What site? The Italian Wikipedia says the following, translated by Google:

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
LOL. The Chinese curse ... ...If you are Rossi, then the next of the 3 curses could be worse: "May you come to the attention of those in authority" Curse or no, these are interesting times ... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interes

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Didn't we all notice that the patent does not include Focardi's name? T

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
I think we will see ECats starting to be pumped out. Revenue will flow in. Challenges will be issued. Lawyers will be unleased. I doubt that any of us will live to see a resolution to the claims; but, we might all benefit from the products. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interest

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM,   wrote: > >> Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? > > Nope.  The form says "issued" and a new number is applied.  From the > Grik web site: > > Patent number 0001387256/ April 6th 2011 on the

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM, wrote: > Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? Nope. The form says "issued" and a new number is applied. From the Grik web site: Patent number 0001387256/ April 6th 2011 on the WIPO application number MI2008A 000629 T

Re: [Vo]:Fraud Warning msg posted at Defkalion, May 7

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > Last time I checked www.energycatalyzer.us, it doesn't seem to work anymore. > Looks like it's already been taken down. Go Seals! T

[Vo]:Thermal diode

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.rle.mit.edu/media/pr147/33.pdf Is there such a beast as an "electrothermal diode"? This paper pops up: T. Veijola and M. Valtonen, "Combined electrical and thermal circuit simulation using APLAC, Part B: Electrothermal diode and transistor," Tech. Rep. CT-27, HUT, Circuit Theory Labor

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
Steven - I did not remember that you were a toroidista :) - but in the end, I think you agree that either it is a toroid or else there has to be some kind of current going through the powder, otherwise - it is not going to heat up. Electrical current directly through the nanopowder has theoretica

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > >Ah, you beat me to it! > > > > > >> I wonder if this will have a positive effect on other patent offices? > > Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? > I have no idea. I don't know enough Italian to judge. I will ask Rossi. The Defkalion site says the patent was grante

Re: [Vo]:Fraud Warning msg posted at Defkalion, May 7

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Goodness gracious! The site www.energycatalyzer.us is still down. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa wrote: So, are you suggesting there is a core surrounded by water, like this? > > http://i.imgur.com/pwZW2.png That is how Rossi described it. There might be a language problem, but I am pretty sure that is what he meant. He also said emphatically that the cell is stainless ste

[Vo]:Fraud Warning msg posted at Defkalion, May 7

2011-05-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Anyone notice the Fraud warning message posted at the Defkalion web site? * * * * * * * WARNING(April 7, 2011) A serious fraud attempt has occurred from the site www.energycatalyzer.us, where, unbeknownst to us and without our authorization, our logo and company name were used to solicit moneys

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
I should add that in this second image, if the external water flow was via channels which are machined into a tight fitting internal reactor, such that the internal reactor has good electrical contact with the heater, then this is consistent with the transistor hypothesis, but not with resistive he

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 11:44:15 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Ah, you beat me to it! > > >> I wonder if this will have a positive effect on other patent offices? Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? >> > >Isn't there a rule that they have to honor a patent i

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Yeah, we all have been speculumating. Now that the patent is issued, maybe we will get to look to see what is really inside that dark area. :-) T

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Jones, > > A schematic view of the E-Cat would be something like this: > > http://i.imgur.com/llVoU.png > > Yes, This is exactly the way it appeared to me at first, given all that is > known from the images - with only an internal cooling tube and NO external > water flow around the outsid

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
This is not physically possible. The heat (temperature) transferable from the heaters to the core, even with the lowest possible water flow, cannot greatly exceed 100 C with a design where water separates the exterior heater from the reactor; and water is also surrounding the interior heater for mo

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Axil Axil
The dubble pipe configuration is pictured in the patent with the addition of the external band heater http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20091015&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&NR=2009125444A1&KC=A1 On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-05-08 00:47, Axil Axil wrote: If you missed this old post, here is s repeat: [...] So, are you suggesting there is a core surrounded by water, like this? http://i.imgur.com/pwZW2.png (Both versions together: http://i.imgur.com/Kf7mO.png ) Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Axil Axil
If you missed this old post, here is s repeat: When the Cat-E was downsized, the reaction chamber was greatly reduced in size. So was the internal heater in like proportion. But the copper pipes in the water loop are standard commercial grade sizes and therefore stayed the same size. Remaining th

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
Thanks, Akira > A schematic view of the E-Cat would be something like this: http://i.imgur.com/llVoU.png Yes, This is exactly the way it appeared to me at first, given all that is known from the images - with only an internal cooling tube and NO external water flow around the outside of the rea

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-05-07 23:11, Jones Beene wrote: The axial wires look like typical leads to a cartridge heater http://www.tempco.com/new/products5.html They do look like those. A long version off this kind of heater could contact the reactor at the end, and then it could transfer some heat to it, but

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
A quick and dirty test comes to mind. Anybody got two of the immersion water heaters used by travelers? http://www.amazon.com/Bush-CH-101-Energy-Saving-Immersion-Heater/dp/B003DLB5 KW The idea would be to place two of them in a semi-conductive liquid (water with a dash of salt), and app

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
The axial wires look like typical leads to a cartridge heater http://www.tempco.com/new/products5.html A long version off this kind of heater could contact the reactor at the end, and then it could transfer some heat to it, but most of the heat would lost to the water which flows all around it, c

[Vo]:Relativistic Casimir Cavities

2011-05-07 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
The Casimir Effect is often explained by the example of two grounded, metal plates that are separated by a very small distance, usually, 100 to a 1000 nm separation. Small frequencies of the electromagnetic quantum flux of the Quantum Vacuum or Zero-Point Energy field exist both inside the "ca

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > But, going back to your other observation, how would you flow current > between two heaters, exactly? Have one at higher potential? Sure. But to know if it is being done, one has to see inside the reactor. I assume the "auxiliary heater" in

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Yes, I caught that too... Here is the end of the band heater leads for the middle reactor... You can clearly see two (dirty-whitish) wires exiting the braided steel sheath. -Mark <>

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-05-07 17:55, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mats Lewan says "This means the EU patent is granted." Not necessarily, I'm afraid. Or does he know more about this matter? By the way, it looks like Defkalion Green Technologies is aware of people's response to E-Cat related news. Have a look at their

RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > When Terry noticed the single lead, it was pointed out that there are similar > heaters available online with two leads. Good find, Jones. However, it is evident from the piccy that the band heater does actually have two wires. See the cable o

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > When > Terry noticed the single lead, it was pointed out that there are similar > heaters available online with two leads. Good find, Jones. However, it is evident from the piccy that the band heater does actually have two wires. See the cabl

[Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
For those who have not paid particular attention to the images which started the hypothesis of the last two days - that the precise operation of the E-Cat reactor could be either a triode (MAHG) type of accelerator, or a massive semiconductor bipolar junction transistor (as opposed to simply a resi

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
https://www.facebook.com/#!/EnergyCatalyzer Harry > > I posted this information on the _Cold Fusion Andrea Rossi Method_ Facebook >page > It has attracted over 1000 fans now... > > Harry > > > > Akira Shirakawa wrote: > > Hello group, > > > > This is straight from Wikipedia: > > > > * * *

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
I posted this information on the _Cold Fusion Andrea Rossi Method_ Facebook page It has attracted over 1000 fans now... Harry Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Hello group, > > This is straight from Wikipedia: > > * * * > >http://www.uibm.gov.it/uibm/dati/Avanzata.aspx?load=info_list_uno&id=1610895&

Re: [Vo]:Casimir Cavities.

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
I guess Casimir didn't like going to the dentist. harry ;-)   - Original Message > From: Jones Beene > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 1:43:50 PM > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Casimir Cavities. > > This (Cavity QED) is probably a good start: > > > http://th-www.if.uj.edu.pl/

RE: [Vo]:Casimir Cavities.

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
This (Cavity QED) is probably a good start: http://th-www.if.uj.edu.pl/acta/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf -Original Message- From: Dr Josef Karthauser Ok, I'm game... Is there a paper with a worked through example on Casimir Cavities that I can consider to help me understand what's being di

RE: [Vo]:Casimir Cavities.

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
Fran Roarty has a number of blogs that follow the latest R&D on various aspects of how the Casimir effect (force) can be translated into a dynamic energy source. Here is one, but it may not be the most current, since it focuses on the Mills' incarnation: http://www.byzipp.com/hydrino/ He or Sco

Re: [Vo]:Casimir Cavities.

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect T On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote: > Ok, I'm game. What is a Casimir Cavity? I'm sure it's been explained here > already, but probably in the middle of one of the amply populated threads.  I > know the smallest part the the

[Vo]:Casimir Cavities.

2011-05-07 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
Ok, I'm game. What is a Casimir Cavity? I'm sure it's been explained here already, but probably in the middle of one of the amply populated threads. I know the smallest part the theory of the Casimir effect. Is this related? Is there a paper with a worked through example on Casimir Cavities tha

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times and Rossi Portal down

2011-05-07 Thread Peter Gluck
I had accessed both more times today, placed a comment it must a different explanation. Verified just now it works Peter On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I couldn't get newenergytimes.com either this morning. Tell Steve. > > - Jed > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mats Lewan says "This means the EU patent is granted." - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times and Rossi Portal down

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I couldn't get newenergytimes.com either this morning. Tell Steve. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times and Rossi Portal down

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
I sent a note to Krivit. T

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times and Rossi Portal down

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The New Energy Times website and the Rossi Portal (http://rossiportal.com/) > have been down since yesterday. If anyone knows how to contact Steve Krivit, > you should tell him. My e-mail address for him is linked to his site, and I > believe

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia: Rossi granted patent

2011-05-07 Thread noone noone
This might not be the patent for the catalysts. From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 8:23:19 AM Subject: [Vo]:Wikipedia: Rossi granted patent Brian Josephson reports: "According to infallible Wikipedia: The Italian Office for P

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah, you beat me to it! > I wonder if this will have a positive effect on other patent offices? > Isn't there a rule that they have to honor a patent in another country? (I don't know. As you see, I know little about patents.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia: Rossi granted patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.uibm.gov.it/uibm/dati/Avanzata.aspx?load=info_list_uno&id=1610895&table=Invention&#ancoraSearch

[Vo]:New Energy Times and Rossi Portal down

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
The New Energy Times website and the Rossi Portal (http://rossiportal.com/) have been down since yesterday. If anyone knows how to contact Steve Krivit, you should tell him. My e-mail address for him is linked to his site, and I believe he has blocked me in any case. - Jed

[Vo]:Wikipedia: Rossi granted patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Brian Josephson reports: "According to infallible Wikipedia: The Italian Office for Patents and Trademarks issued the patent for > the invention on 6 April 2011 > Eccellente! Bravissimo! (how come we didn't hear about it earlier?)" - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Explainig Rossi.

2011-05-07 Thread Jay Caplan
The extremely high cost of enrichment has to rule this possibility out. - Original Message - From: Peter Gluck To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Explainig Rossi. Can you evaluate the costs of enrichment? On Sat, May 7, 2011

[Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is straight from Wikipedia: * * * http://www.uibm.gov.it/uibm/dati/Avanzata.aspx?load=info_list_uno&id=1610895&table=Invention&#ancoraSearch http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufficio_italiano_brevetti_e_marchi TITLE: "processo ed apparecchiatura per ottenere reazioni esotermiche,

[Vo]:Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
Anyone who has touched a maxed-out transistor, even driven by a AA battery knows that these little devils can put out surprisingly high heat, even when they are operating quite efficiently at modulating the current they are passing. Is there a clue there - for the Rossi effect? A bipolar junction

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 06 May 2011 12:56:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Deuterium is cheap, but helium-3 is potentially worth a fortune. If they >can tune cells to crank that out, that might be fantastic! I do not >think we would need He3 reactors for ordinary applications if we have

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 6 May 2011 06:47:51 -0700: Hi, [snip] >-Original Message- >From: mix...@bigpond.com > >>Ed Storms suggests: > >>H-e-H --> D > >The problem with this one is that the energy is all taken by the neutrino > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 6 May 2011 07:53:43 -0400: Hi, [snip] >On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:22 PM, wrote: > >> Electron annihilation doesn't produce a 1.22 MeV photon. It produces two 511 >> keV >> photons (180 deg. apart). > >I knew that. What I should have said was 1.22 MeV

Re: [Vo]:Explainig Rossi.

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 02:47:06 -0400: Hi, You fail to explain why pure Hydrogen would fuse to copper. >Explaining Rossi. > > > >Rossi said: “We think that all the Ni participates to the reactions, even if >some isotopes should be more efficient.” “Only Ni 62 and Ni64

Re: [Vo]:The NiO can be made to stick to the walls of a stainless steel surface (SSS)

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.'s message of Fri, 6 May 2011 16:32:28 -0700: Hi, Now wouldn't it be funny if Rossi had discovered that an ordinary catalytic converter containing Ni could be used as a CF energy generator? :) [snip] >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter > >* * * > >Str

Re: [Vo]:Terry's triode

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 6 May 2011 14:15:58 -0700: Hi, [snip] >However, it is the dimension of the holes that matters most, apparently. 45.582 nm. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:NASA Working on LENR Replication and Theory Confirmation

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
NASA Working on LENR Replication and Theory Confirmation http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/05/06/nasa-working-on-lenr-replication-and-theory-confirmation/ Harry