In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:05:01 -0400:
Hi David,
[snip]
>Robin,
>
>I think we are on the same frequency in this quest. It appears that any non
>linear process that can be coaxed into converting the kinetic energy due to
>thermal motion into potential energy of
David, Robin, all,
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interest.
Mark
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM, David Roberson wrote:
> Robin,
>
> I think we
Robin,
I think we are on the same frequency in this quest. It appears that any non
linear process that can be coaxed into converting the kinetic energy due to
thermal motion into potential energy of some type will achieve the goal.
The second law must be based upon linear behavior of gasses, e
Now we can clean power even when the sun isn't shining or the wind isn't
blowing. If we're going use renewable power in a big way, we're going to
need better battery storage. Because solar and wind are intermittent
sources of energy, they need to be backed up for when they're not there,
because, ..
Some other info:
A lab at West Virginia U. found the problem, working with a $50,000 grant.
They have also tested a BMI, which was fine. That confirmed their method is
correct. See:
http://www.npr.org/2015/09/24/443053672/how-a-little-lab-in-west-virginia-caught-volkswagens-big-cheat
The excess
***
The ones that are equally dangerous, such as the recent batch of cucumbers,
have also sickened or killed people. "Every year, Salmonella is estimated to
cause one million illnesses in the United States, with 19,000 hospitalizations
and 380 deaths."
http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/
Obviously
Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
> Indeed. IMO, there is really only one definitive way to settle the matter.
> Build a working prototype proving OU is occurring. Filing a law suit to go
> after Grump and his cohorts accomplishes diddly squat . . .
>
Yes, this is foolish. It makes BLP l
>From Lennart,
> ... However, to me it is really sad that BLP need to go to court
> to resolve this type of issues. IMHO there is no upside for either
> party regardless of the outcome.
Indeed. IMO, there is really only one definitive way to settle the matter.
Build a working prototype p
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 25 Sep 2015 15:40:33 -0400:
Hi Dave,
[snip]
>This discussion is interesting. Perhaps the existing thermodynamic laws apply
>mainly to black body types of interactions when radiation is associated.
>Clearly the light emitted by an LED is not of that
Jed, I have been in those countries.
Yes, the mortality rate from misc. things are higher than in the US.
The factors are not to be found in the regulations. It is mostly other
factors.
Often third world countries adopt US or European regulations. The
possibilities to avoid the legislation is by fa
Lennart Thornros wrote:
Jed you are the eternal defender of regulations. No, it is not with consent.
>
Everyone with knowledge of industry and the history of commerce is a
defender of regulations. Go back and read how things were before there were
modern regulations, or go live in a Third World
Please Jed, you think it was intentional and that the guy did not care if
his product would kill people. Then I guess the problem is all solved. No
more company will provide peanuts which are a risk to eat. I have not
followed the case as detailed as you have. However, if he did the things
you say
Jed you are the eternal defender of regulations. No, it is not with
consent. Yes, they work for putting high entry cost to a market. The
biggest entities often become part of an initial agreement and then the law
is a fact and various parties now negotiate exceptions and some of them not
so kosher.
David Roberson wrote:
> I hope and believe that he did not think that the peanut butter he was
> producing would lead to any deaths.
Perhaps he hoped it wouldn't lead to deaths. That would be stupid because
he knew the peanuts were contaminated with salmonella, and anyone who knows
about food,
MJ wrote:
> So, if the problem was the software, why they didn't fix it?
>
The problem is not software. Software was used to cover up the problem. The
problem is that when they run the motor in a mode that reduces NOx to
levels allowed by the U.S. regulations, fuel efficiency and performanc
Jed, you mention Mr. Parnell and his case. I hope and believe that he did not
think that the peanut butter he was producing would lead to any deaths. I
suspect that he was of the opinion that this sort of issue has been around for
many years and did not reflect any significant danger to the p
Jones,
Hopefully more information will become available concerning this effect in the
future. I agree that it is becoming possible to place very large numbers of
devices of this small size on a chip that might make the effect very visible
and useful.
I would assume that with the cooling woul
Lennart Thornros wrote:
>
> However, one cannot make laws / rules that are violating what is practical
> if one is not prepared to pay the price.
>
The people who draft these rules are industry experts, recruited from the
leading companies. In the U.S., regulatory agencies *never* pass rules tha
I agree with you David.
However, one cannot make laws / rules that are violating what is practical
if one is not prepared to pay the price.
Maybe this problem is only related to diesel motors but if not I can almost
guarantee that other manufacturers have similar systems in place. We will
soon hear
So, if the problem was the software, why they didn't fix it?
Mark Jordan
On 25-Sep-15 16:29, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This is somewhat off-topic but . . .
I have had trouble understanding the news reports about the Volkswagen
scandal. I have not found a clear technical description of wha
Dave,
This is not exactly a Maxwell’s demon, since there is no discretionary
filtering. I like your suggestion about thermal peaks being involved and there
is undoubtedly some kind of resonance. The LED was notably in the IR range to
begin with. Possibly the Boltzmann tail of the thermal dis
This type of deception makes me angry. Also, how stupid are they to assume
that this will not be uncovered? All of those guys in management associated
with this decision should be terminated.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2015 3:43
I agree with you Steven, not much will happen before it can be proven BLP
has a product. However, to me it is really sad that BLP need to go to court
to resolve this type of issues. IMHO there is no upside for either party
regardless of the outcome. The only guys laughing all the way to the bank
ar
The EPA test was detected by the VW if the rear wheels weren't spinning. A
while back, Cadillac did the same thing but used a open hood as a indicator
that a EPA test was underway.
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> This is somewhat off-topic but . . .
>
> I have had trouble
This discussion is interesting. Perhaps the existing thermodynamic laws apply
mainly to black body types of interactions when radiation is associated.
Clearly the light emitted by an LED is not of that nature. It is narrow band
radiation at a level that is much higher in these bands than wo
This is somewhat off-topic but . . .
I have had trouble understanding the news reports about the Volkswagen
scandal. I have not found a clear technical description of what happened. I
think the reporters do not understand.
The gist of it is that when someone plugs a computer into the automobile
o
Thanks Jones,
Has the LED effect been replicated? If so, this would clearly indicate a
violation of the assumed thermodynamic laws.
One violation opens the door for others in my estimate.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
To: vortex-l
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2015 4:03 am
Reference:
“WHAT TO NOT DO IN LENR DESIGN
a) Piantelli: To invest any hopes in the domain below Debye temperature for
any metal'”
Besides nickel(450K), the other group 10 elements: palladium(274K) and
platinum(240K) have a Debye temperature below the freezing point of water.
Gold(165K) and silver
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-25-2015-sketch-of-global-research.html
We will continue with discussing details and specifics, your ideas are
welcome! Thanks!
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
AndyTheGrump?
BLP has it in for Grump as well. They filed a law suit against him and others.
http://www.williamslopatto.com/uploads/2/5/8/4/25843913/blacklight_power_inc._complaint.pdf
Have no idea if BLP's complaint has managed to get any traction or not. I
suspect it's gone nowhere.
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
More likely it will be severely edited, data-free, unverified and almost
> meaningless.
I think we'd be foolish to bet otherwise. (Still interested in learning
more about the brushed-up details.)
Eric
Jones Beene wrote:
> My expectation is that the report on the megawatt box, if it actually is a
> complete study which can be independently verified - will severely
> disappoint most of Rossi’s fan base. More likely it will be severely
> edited, data-free, unverified and almost meaningless.
>
H
Jack,
It could be more problematic than that.
If the customer was using electricity for heating, that means that natural gas
is unavailable. This is true in Miami and much of south Florida – little access
to natural gas. Thus “the customer” could be already paying three times more
for he
wrote:
>
> >right. In other words, the overhead is small; 1 MJ of electricity produces
> >enough hydrogen to generate 5e13 MJ of heat.
> >
> I think you have dropped about 7 orders of magnitude. ;)
I wouldn't put it past me. I think I was looking at the numbers for D+D
fusion.
Anyway, it's a l
wrote:
> ...I think we have been here before. You can just carry water in the
> vehicle,
> and electrolyze it in situ, a minute quantity at a time, as required.
> There need
> be no stored gas, and no danger.
>
Mizuno and others who know a lot about hydrogen tell me that might be
problematic. I
I can't see most of the comments because I get a message that there is a
coding error.
Good luck getting Wiki to change their write up on cold fusion. I got
banned from there for arguing with editor AndyTheGrump, who was
obviously biased and wrong.
I am getting this message following Blaze Spinnaker's second post and
later ones
"Content Encoding Error
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an
invalid or unsupported form of compression.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem."
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Recently, I was thinking about how Rossi's industrial test could turn out
to be problematic in the end. Consider the following scenario: the plant
of the customer used conventional heating elements to heat their water
before, but their pipes in their boiler system were not as well insulated
as in
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