Re: [Vo]:OT: Stress alters children's genomes

2014-04-12 Thread H Veeder
effects were nil. Bob . - Original Message - *From:* H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:24 AM *Subject:* [Vo]:OT: Stress alters children's genomes Stress alters children's genomes Poverty and unstable family environments

[Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research

2014-04-10 Thread H Veeder
放射性廃棄物の無害化に道? 三菱重、実用研究へ (google translation) The road to the detoxification of radioactive waste? Mitsubishi Heavy, to practical research 2014/4/8 7:00 Use the deuterium, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries established the basic technology of the element conversion to change the type of the element

Re: [Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research

2014-04-10 Thread H Veeder
Thanks for the tidbits...google's English translation of Japanese is not clear. Harry On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Another interesting tidbit: p. 1 says they were awarded a patent in Japan, and a patent in Europe in 2013. Page 1 also quotes the

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

2014-04-03 Thread H Veeder
Here is a contemporary Catholic assessment of Galileo's treatment. http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-galileo-controversy Yes there are passages in the bible which could be interpreted as supporting geocentrism. The concluding remarks are interesting too: As more recent science has shown, both

[Vo]:Presentation on LENR at University of Northern Iowa

2014-04-03 Thread H Veeder
The University of Northern Iowa presents LENR The Promise of clean and affordable Energy March 10, 2014 Thomas A. Wind is an electrical engineer who has worked on many wind generation projects but over the last two years has become really interested in LENR. Intro LENR Wind 3:34

Re: [Vo]:Presentation on LENR at University of Northern Iowa

2014-04-03 Thread H Veeder
BTW Frank Acland of e-catworld.com makes a brief appearance at the end of the final video. Harry On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:18 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The University of Northern Iowa presents LENR The Promise of clean and affordable Energy March 10, 2014 Thomas A. Wind

[Vo]:Nanoparticle trapped with laser light temporarily violates second law of thermodynamics

2014-04-01 Thread H Veeder
Nanoparticle trapped with laser light temporarily violates second law of thermodynamics Date: March 31, 2014 Objects with sizes in the nanometer range, such as the molecular building blocks of living cells or nanotechnological devices, are continuously exposed to random collisions with

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-27 Thread H Veeder
Going from D to H should be endothermic. Harry On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Jed Rothwell I will upload this version this morning and then go back to yesterday's version and replace the Japanese text in some

Re: [Vo]:The prospects for LENR deployment

2014-03-27 Thread H Veeder
Lennart and others interested in the commercial side of CF should watch this (if you haven't already). Steve Katinski and David Nagel are setting up an industry association for advancing science and business in LANR Cold Fusion

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-27 Thread H Veeder
at 8:55 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Going from D to H should be endothermic. Exciting slides. I do not have the wherewithal to assess their calorimetry, so I will assume it is accurate. Here are some exothermic reactions involving generation of H from D: - d + 60Ni → 61Ni

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-27 Thread H Veeder
, the Mizuno lab would be a small Fukushima… *From:* torulf.gr...@bredband.net I see you was quicker with neutron capture. But the should look for He4 in the Ni metal. Eric Walker wrote: H Veeder wrote: Going from D to H should be endothermic. Exciting slides. I do not have

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread H Veeder
electromagnetic moat Harry On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: We hear so much chatter about the Coulomb barrier and how difficult it is to overcome for fusion events to occur. Perhaps we should consider it as an electromagnetic barrier instead.

[Vo]:Cold fusion continues 25 years after announcement

2014-03-24 Thread H Veeder
Cold fusion continues 25 years after announcement By Ed Yeates SALT LAKE CITY -- Twenty five years later, despite the skeptics, cold fusion lingers. Instead of what critics say was a premature, unsubstantiated, even arrogant announcement from the University of Utah in 1989, Stanley Pons and

[Vo]:Art Exhibition: The Potato Eaters Discover Cold Fusion

2014-03-23 Thread H Veeder
This article is about a current art exhibition called The Potato Eaters Discover Cold Fusion. The Potato Eaters is a painting by Van Gogh. The artist does not seem to know anything about the ongoing CF research. In his paintings he contemplates the modernist utopian dream of cheap nuclear power

Re: [Vo]:Art Exhibition: The Potato Eaters Discover Cold Fusion

2014-03-23 Thread H Veeder
Sorry, I accidentally inserted a space in the first link so it won't work. This is the correct link http://www.leftlion.co.uk/articles.cfm/title/the-potato-eaters-discover-cold- fusion/id/6548#.Uy-m2vldWSq Harry On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:55 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-23 Thread H Veeder
be warranted to eliminate the issue with loss of energy via stirring the air around the rotating balls. Bob - Original Message - *From:* H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:56 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR

Re: [Vo]:2 Modes of the FPE

2014-03-22 Thread H Veeder
Suppose only 2% of the material in a catalytic converter has the NAE capable of producing the putative excess heat. Since a catalytic converter contains so much more potentially NAE than a familiar CF cell it is like running a thousand CF cells at the same time of which only twenty produce excess

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-22 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* H Veeder ...two steel ball bearings welded together ... are a metaphorical cooper-pair, so to speak... raising another weird question: is there something about spherical-pairing alone, which is special

Re: [Vo]:Hurricane balls, RAR and high-Q factor

2014-03-20 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The continuing reports (on various alternative energy sites) about RAR having recently demonstrated overunity in Brazil, are provocative... but nothing more than rumor. Should we wait to explore the ramifications of

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic inertia

2014-03-19 Thread H Veeder
Magnetic field lines can be mapped using a compass. Iron-filings act like miniature compass needles when sprinkled on paper covering a magnet. Friction between the paper and an iron-filing ensures the iron-filing will pivot like a compass needle. In zero-g the iron-filings would need to be placed

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A relativistic Shrödinger's cat

2014-03-17 Thread H Veeder
the postulate of the c constancy. harry -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 2:12 am Subject: [Vo]:A relativistic Shrödinger's cat From the appendix of the paper Stellar Aberration: the Contradiction

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A relativistic Shrödinger's cat

2014-03-17 Thread H Veeder
I wrote: The paper assumes that Einstein's light clock (on which all of special relativity is based) needs light to propagate as spherical wave, but I think this assumption is unnecessary, so it means his relativistic Shrödinger's cat paradox is a non-sequitur. However, I believe the

[Vo]:A relativistic Shrödinger's cat

2014-03-16 Thread H Veeder
From the appendix of the paper Stellar Aberration: the Contradiction between Einstein and Bradley http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/V14NO2PDF/V14N2RUS.pdf Apeiron, Vol. 14, No 2, April 2007 111 © 2007 C. Roy Keys Inc. — http://redshift.vif.com Appendix I: A relativistic Shrödinger’s cat

Re: [Vo]:Neo-Classical Relativity

2014-03-12 Thread H Veeder
Of the six videos, this one is the most important one... [ The Neo-classical Theory of Relativity ] Einstein's incorrect method to synchronize clocks - case (A). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2qYCvw1UiElist=UUek3dPxFThe8FLl-ONbOeVw ...because it uses the same thought experiment described by

Re: [Vo]:Neo-Classical Relativity

2014-03-12 Thread H Veeder
Sorry, I should have included section 1 _and_ 2 from Einstein's paper. The second section is added below. Harry On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Of the six videos, this one is the most important one... [ The Neo-classical Theory of Relativity ] Einstein's

Re: [Vo]:Neo-Classical Relativity

2014-03-12 Thread H Veeder
John, Forget these videos. I just realized they are not a fair critique of special relativity because they don't factor in the the postulate of the constancy of light speed. Harry On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I should have included section 1

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-12 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to ChemE Stewart's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 17:48:13 -0500: Hi, That one is easy, it's flour power :) [snip] Normally a charge imbalance arises when different materials are rubbed together. (eg. amber and fur)

Re: [Vo]:Neo-Classical Relativity

2014-03-12 Thread H Veeder
not exist in reality. John On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:32 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: John, Forget these videos. I just realized they are not a fair critique of special relativity because they don't factor in the the postulate of the constancy of light speed. Harry On Wed, Mar

Re: [Vo]:Neo-Classical Relativity

2014-03-12 Thread H Veeder
clock synchronization methods. Harry On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: John, Einstein's conception of simultaneity follows a procedure. The first step in this procedure is to establish clock synchronization in one frame of reference in isolation from

[Vo]:E.C. Burtt, 'The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Physical Science'

2014-03-11 Thread H Veeder
It has, no doubt, been worth the metaphysical barbarism of a few centuries to possess modern science. Why did none of them see the tremendous difficulties involved? Here, too, in light of our study, can there be any doubt of the central reason? These founders of the philosophy of science were

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread H Veeder
, although wonderland would not be to bad--it might be a little like this blog, which is a lot of fun. Bob Contents - Original Message - *From:* H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:53 PM *Subject:* Re: Replications

Re: [Vo]:Evidence of SR Length Contraction

2014-03-09 Thread H Veeder
I thought about the same issues too. If the principles of special relativity are applicable then according to the principles it should be possible to explain the effect equally well in either frame of reference. However, I don't think it is possible. I am wondering if an amplitude change in the

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-09 Thread H Veeder
If this has any bearing on hydrogen loaded metal lattices then the equivalent of the flour crack might be a region which was formerly filled with hydrogen but which suddenly became devoid of hydrogen. In other words, instead of cracks in the lattice being important to excess heat, it might be the

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-09 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:53 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Bob stated: ... we are again meeting in Alice's rabbit hole. Wrong movie Bob, think Matrices! The Blue pill or the Red pill? ;-) -Mark One could argue it is the same movie, since The Matrix makes some

[Vo]:Update on the Chain Fountain

2014-03-09 Thread H Veeder
The Chain Fountain, Explained (?) Usually, physics research starts with a known problem. There are surprises, of course, but they don’t often come from Internet videos, as happened with the case of the mysterious chain fountain. It started with Steve Mould, a host of science television shows in

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-09 Thread H Veeder
pills , I always choose the red ones, since they are easier to see when I drop them on the floor from my pill box. I typically don't eat blue things. Bob - Original Message - *From:* H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:04 PM

Re: [Vo]:Evidence of SR Length Contraction

2014-03-08 Thread H Veeder
This is what I described and illustrated from the frame of reference of the train. Section C shows the railway ties closer together. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxczzEYA5C5cXNmZU1aUXNTRFE/edit?usp=sharing Harry On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26462348 LENR has been talking about this for some time now. quote from article Not every major earthquake is preceded by lightning. And not all clear-sky lightning is followed by

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-08 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:45 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:45:54 -0500: Hi, [snip] http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26462348 LENR has been talking about this for some time now. My take:- When two grains rub against one

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-07 Thread H Veeder
... theres gonna be sparks :_) *From:* H Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2014 2:54 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox Both frames are in sliding contact so it takes no time for the sprayer to leave

Re: [Vo]:Disproofs of Relativity

2014-03-06 Thread H Veeder
If you can send gibberish faster than light than you can send information faster than light. for example: gibberish-pause--gibberish could be binary code for '5' or morse code for 'K' Harry On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: A signal can propagate in

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-05 Thread H Veeder
Don't blame me Charlie... I can't see! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itr0jcR0S4s On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:30 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: What you see in this video is how SR effects light rays coming into a camera or an eye. SR says length contraction is literally length

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-05 Thread H Veeder
*Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:54 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Only by changing the thought experiment and incorporating that signal can an observer in the rest frame declare the events to be non-synchronous in his frame

Re: [Vo]:Disproofs of Relativity

2014-03-05 Thread H Veeder
Eric, Some of these corner cases may have some bearing on cold fusion. Harry On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:24 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: If you want to believe it is settled science as many do, you are

Re: [Vo]:Disproofs of Relativity

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
The geometry of spacetime is a clever way of encoding the postulates of relativity theory, so of course spacetime will contain a parameter C. The use of spacetime to describe experience depends on the scope of the validity of the postulates. Harry On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:42 PM, James Bowery

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
Terry, Is there something in particular about this video that I should apply to my example? harry On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnHTKZBTI4 provides observed effects of travel at light speed. It does so

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
John, On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: From a discussion in another group, I can say that the view of SR would be that what is simultaneous in the train frame would not be viewed as simultaneous in the track frame. This would only be true if the

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
rotation of what? harry On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:03 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Terry, Is there something in particular about this video that I should apply to my example? I think it shows

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: rotation of what? harry On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:03 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Terry, Is there something in particular about this video that I should

Re: [Vo]:Disproofs of Relativity

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
I think it is time to remind people what this list is about. http://amasci.com/weird/wvort.html The Vortex-L list was originally created for discussions of professional research into fluid vortex/cavitation devices which exhibit anomalous energy effects (ie: the inventions of Schaeffer, Huffman,

Re: [Vo]:Disproofs of Relativity

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
I don't know. harry On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:51 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: What about probability theory? Is that a clever way of encoding the postulates of relativity theory? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The geometry of spacetime

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-04 Thread H Veeder
. Why would you expect them to make two separate observations? There is only one train moving past. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 3:23 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

[Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-02 Thread H Veeder
A length contraction paradox which doesn't vanish with further analysis. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxczzEYA5C5cXNmZU1aUXNTRFE/edit?usp=sharing harry

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-02 Thread H Veeder
that is at rest relative to the tracks. He would not see two separate spray events so I would suspect that he would find the short version only. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 1:10 pm Subject: [Vo]:a length

Re: [Vo]:a length contraction paradox

2014-03-02 Thread H Veeder
AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Hello Harry, The surveyor resides in a frame that is at rest relative to the tracks. He would not see two separate spray events so I would suspect that he would find the short version only. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder

Re: [Vo]:Another attack on the constancy of the speed of light

2014-02-28 Thread H Veeder
John, Unfortunately, upon further reflection these two thought experiments aren't paradoxical, because they involve sending a signal over a non-zero distance. Whenever such signaling is present a putative paradox vanishes when analysed according to the principles of relativity theory . Therefore,

Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find

2014-02-27 Thread H Veeder
Terry, Are you being funny? With barcodes and scanners cashiers don't need to read to price labels. He wants to devise a scanning method that identifies the type plastic without the need for labels. The optical properties of each plastic type would act like a natural bar code. Harry On Thu,

Re: [Vo]:Another attack on the constancy of the speed of light

2014-02-27 Thread H Veeder
can both measure C for the light? Or what if you replace it with an electron at near .999 C, what would be expected? Obviously assume a vacuum is present. Thanks for taking a look, John On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The spatial relationships between

Re: [Vo]:Another attack on the constancy of the speed of light

2014-02-27 Thread H Veeder
The linear example you describe below. Harry On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:09 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I very much appreciate your saying so Harry! You give me faith in humans! Which SR experiment are you saying I should illustrate? On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:27 PM, H

Re: [Vo]:Another attack on the constancy of the speed of light

2014-02-27 Thread H Veeder
On second thought, I am not so sure about the linear example. I will need to see it illustrated to be sure. harry On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:14 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The linear example you describe below. Harry On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:09 AM, John Berry berry.joh

Re: [Vo]:Is there an echo in here?

2014-02-26 Thread H Veeder
Gold coins could be counterfeited, so people would bite them to see if they were real. What is the byte test for bitcoins? ;-) harry

Re: [Vo]:Is there an echo in here?

2014-02-26 Thread H Veeder
It is a matter of values rather than beliefs. If people stopped valuing flowers, the tulip bulb would cease to have value. Likewise if people stopped valuing computer science, bit coins would cease to have value. Harry On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Another attack on the constancy of the speed of light

2014-02-26 Thread H Veeder
The spatial relationships between the discs and clocks is not clear. Can you draw a diagram of the experiment? harry On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:34 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: For brevity, I will explain it in sentence. and the possible results in a few more, But the longer

Re: [Vo]:BrightSource

2014-02-25 Thread H Veeder
Might the mechanical telephone will make a comeback? Probably not since all communication seems to be going wireless these days. But who knows... Pulsion Telephone Company certificate and ad from 1889 http://scripophily.net/imputesecoma.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_can_telephone For a

Re: [Vo]:BrightSource

2014-02-25 Thread H Veeder
Do you know about the Earth's natural Schumann Resonance? There is a theory that life evolved so as to become adapted to it and our EM broadcasts are interfering with this adaptation. Harry On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:48 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't say cell phones were

Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

2014-02-21 Thread H Veeder
:-) You never know what people will find useful. Harry On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Thanks H Veeder. These characters do text in Kindle while the font symbol does not. I updated my e book with these symbols and removed words like omega. Frank θ ω ε

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-21 Thread H Veeder
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:25 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Imagine two friends with synchronized watches. One friend boards a train and zips away for a time at near c and then gets off and walks back to his

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-21 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:10 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Correction: If the result of the magnetic force being seen to act on one frame as expected from the flux in another leads to a dramatic and non-trivial paradox, it is going to be harder to keep up the delusion that

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-21 Thread H Veeder
be no problem since this type of structure has been proven to generate a force. So, if taken to the extreme, is there a reason that a small segment along the wire behaves in a different manner? Thanks Harry, Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-21 Thread H Veeder
they meet up they should however find their time quite different from that read on a clock at their stationary meeting place. *From:* H Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2014 2:06 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation

[Vo]:ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein

2014-02-20 Thread H Veeder
As Dave has mentioned, Einstein's reason for postulating the constancy of c was partly motivated by his examination of the laws of electrodynamics. Here is the introduction to his paper ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES. You can see he is bothered by a lack of symmetry in the laws but a

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-19 Thread H Veeder
John, Eric is right about the constancy of c being a *postulate* from which time-dilation and length contraction are derived. However, that doesn't discount your thought experiments as a way of probing the coherence of SR. Imagine two friends with synchronized watches. One friend boards a train

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-19 Thread H Veeder
Dramatic! As alternate way of revealing the paradox, I imagined the two charged balls connected by a spring which counter balances the force of repulsion. In the reference frame where the balls are moving, a magnetic force would cause the spring to become shorter. Paradoxically, in the frame of

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-18 Thread H Veeder
-Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 11:41 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law What is the source of the magnetism? Harry On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Roberson dlrober

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Once I made a calculation of the attraction between two charged particles that are moving together at a constant velocity relative to my frame of reference. I was pleasantly surprised to find that as the velocity of the

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread H Veeder
What is the source of the magnetism? Harry On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Sorry, I realize that my wording was flawed. I mean that the two particles are moving in parallel at the same velocity. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread H Veeder
Oh you used this equation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law#Point_charge_at_constant_velocity I was only familiar with the force which arises between two parallel uniform currents. This is interesting. harry On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:41 PM, H Veeder hveeder

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-16 Thread H Veeder
coils) *From:* David Roberson Sorry, I realize that my wording was flawed. I mean that the two particles are moving in parallel at the same velocity. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder David Roberson wrote: Once I made a calculation of the attraction between two

Re: [Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

2014-02-16 Thread H Veeder
Experiments like these dig up old debates about the nature of matter which mainstream physics since the time of Newton keeps burying. Harry On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:50 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I'm not sure that

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-15 Thread H Veeder
Burchells, and it may well be that this might be a better way of modelling it in some circumstances, but is his extra velocity term for the colomb attraction not just something that we are familiar with but under a different guise? Nigel On 15/02/2014 07:37, H Veeder wrote: He is certainly

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-15 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Nigel, You are correct. I failed to remember that each charge sees a changing electric field due to the motion of the other charge, and if the electric field is changing this generates a changing magnetic field which

Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

2014-02-15 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Using incandescent lights is economic lunacy. Even with cold fusion it would be crazy, especially in commercial apps. That makes sense. I

Re: [Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

2014-02-15 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:21:30 -0200: Hi, [snip] Indeed, in the Coulomb gauge, the electrical field propagates with an infinite speed. This is known for over a century. But this ignores what happens

[Vo]:test for greek letters

2014-02-15 Thread H Veeder
This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into this message are preserved as they pass through the mail programs. The characters come from this site http://greek.typeit.org/ θ ω ε ρ τ ψ υ ι ο π α σ δ φ γ η ς κ λ ζ χ ξ ω β ν μ Θ Ω Ε Ρ Τ Ψ Υ Ι Ο Π Α Σ Δ Φ Γ Η ς Κ Λ Ζ

Re: [Vo]:P-e-P is a no-go ! Get over it !

2014-02-14 Thread H Veeder
Harry wrote: Fair enough, but may be Ed's starting point is necessary for your reversible proton fusion. Think of it as electron mediated reversible proton fusion. Jones wrote: Astute observation. It is all a matter of probability. But note in the prior post, the premise was stated, and

[Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

2014-02-14 Thread H Veeder
Here is a November 2012 paper about an experiment which tentatively shows that electric fields seem to propagates rigidly, i.e. with infinite speed. Although it hasn't been published in a peer reviewed journal yet, given the fact that the observation challenges Special Relatively, one would have

Re: [Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

2014-02-14 Thread H Veeder
BTW, I learned about this experiment while reading about Coulomb's law on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb's_law#Tentative_evidence_of_infinite_speed_of_propagation Harry On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:44 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a November 2012 paper about

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-14 Thread H Veeder
if this is so, it is very possible that gravity could be explained this way. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:09 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery and other vortex members, Today I learned about the the work of Bernard Burchell. He argues for a velocity dependent version of coulomb's

Re: [Vo]:Re: a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-13 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: There is one complication that does not fall out of these various single track theories of LENR fusion. That complication is the Fission/Fusion reaction. What causes many protons to fuse with a high Z element like nickel?

[Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-13 Thread H Veeder
James Bowery and other vortex members, Today I learned about the the work of Bernard Burchell. He argues for a velocity dependent version of coulomb's law* In his model the coloumb force between two like charges increases when the charges are moving together and decreases when they are moving

Re: [Vo]:P-e-P is a no-go ! Get over it !

2014-02-13 Thread H Veeder
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: BTW - take an electron and proton at rest, that system has a mass of 0.511 + 938.272 = 938.8 MeV/c^2. That is the total mass available to that system. It cannot increase above that level unless substantial energy comes

Re: [Vo]:The Connection Between Inertial Forces and the Vector Potential

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:46 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0611167.pdf I draw your attention, in particular to the equation: *p* = µ*v* + q*A* This is old and accepted physics. However, the q*A* term is addition to Newton's 2nd law, is it not?

[Vo]:Vertical Turbines, packed tight, boost power

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
-- VERTICAL TURBINES, PACKED TIGHT, BOOST POWER http://www.earthtechling.com/2011/07/vertical-turbines-packed-tight-boost-power/ -- The caveat is that high wind speed is still a problem for all egg beaters. Harry

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com The most elegant answer begins with the obvious assertion that there are no gammas ab initio, which means that no reaction of the kind which your theory proposes

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
Is the expression beyond the carnot limit the genteel way of stating a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Harry On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Yet another perspective for the same anomalous environment?

Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
:* David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:19 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR Your corollary would be an excellent addition to my discussion. Dave -Original Message- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: Note there could be a problem with heat between nanors interfering with one another. Perhaps the devices only work well at near ambient temperature. Just like people. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Wrote a song form cold fusion. 11 MB type wmv

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
*claps* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyu82WG_edM Harry On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:37 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temporary/Quack.wmv Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
- From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 12:11 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR I think the rules imply it is true for both linear and angular momentum. No amount of the total momentum of a system can be converted

Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-10 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:17 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: OK. Energy is proportional to velocity squared. If you double the velocity, you have four times as much energy as in the first case. Also the direction of the motion is not important. For example, a ball moving to

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