Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-18 Thread Jojo Jaro
plugs but I've never seen one like those pictured. - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-18 Thread Jojo Jaro
Sorry. Double Post. I did not mean to repost this since I've already said it. This is the BS of this retrograde Mailing System. If this were a forum, I could have simply edited the post or deleted it. This email explaining that I double posted should have been unneccesary. Jojo

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-16 Thread Jojo Jaro
the picture? Deal? Hey, this could be the easiest $100 you've ever made. Or it could be the easiest $100 I've ever made. :-) Jojo - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-16 Thread Terry Blanton
Message - From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe you are mistaken. The round white end is the insulating ceramic. If you

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-16 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe you are mistaken. The round white end is the insulating ceramic

[Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-16 Thread Jojo Jaro
HOT OFF THE PRESS Peter seems to have provided confirmation that indeed DGT reactions are modulated by sparking rate. Control via sparking. Same thing I have been saying all along. Now... if I could only get people listening to my next speculation - Carbon Nanostructure-based

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-16 Thread Alain Sepeda
Right, you win. good guess the spark plug look strange, but no glow plug have such insulator (checked). maybe is is a multi-ground sparkplug like that one [image: Images intégrées 1] or something uncommon for car (the end seems round, maybe is it round to spark differently through the

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-16 Thread Robert Dorr
Just another observation. The spark plugs look as though they have been operated at a very high temperature. The writing on the plug which starts out blue, after operation have turned a rather rust color, indicative of high temperature use. And the general color of the metal of the spark

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-16 Thread Jojo Jaro
. The temp drop would be more gradual. However, if you are ionizing gases, the temps would rise quickly and then drop quickly. Jojo - Original Message - From: Alain Sepeda To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right

[Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
Hey Gang, A while back, I was harping on the use of sparks for LENR reactors. I remember quite a vigorous exchange of ideas as to why sparks may be or may not be a critical component. There was discussion as to whether RF or sparks was the important thing. I was speculating that the temp.

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Bob Higgins
At the WM ILENRS-12 symposium, I was told that what is used by DGT and is shown in their pictures were not spark plugs, but actually were glow plugs. I was also told that DGT was having reliability problems with these devices. If true, how does this change the thinking about what DGT is using to

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Doesn't look like glow plugs: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8rh=n%3A15729261page=1 attachment: DGT_Spark.jpg

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
15, 2012 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! At the WM ILENRS-12 symposium, I was told that what is used by DGT and is shown in their pictures were not spark plugs, but actually were glow plugs. I was also told that DGT was having reliability problems with these devices

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Alain Sepeda
no spark gap on the photo, seems right. whether a glow or spark plug is a very important detail if a spark plug is needed, there is a needed quantity of energy that have to be electric, and this limit the COP. if only heat is used, that mean that the reactor itself, or another reactor, can

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
) will draw less than 100 watts. COP is not an issue if sparks are used. Jojo - Original Message - From: Alain Sepeda To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! no spark gap on the photo, seems right

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I did not even know what a glow plug is, I must admit. It is used to start a diesel engine. I think Terry is right and the photo shows a spark plug. People who were there told me it is a spark plug. They also said Defkalion is having trouble because the spark plugs often fail. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread David Roberson
field modulates the heat generation mechanism in some manner. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2012 11:29 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! I did not even know what a glow plug is, I

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.comwrote: At the WM ILENRS-12 symposium, I was told that what is used by DGT and is shown in their pictures were not spark plugs, but actually were glow plugs. I was also told that DGT was having reliability problems with these

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Bob Higgins
100 watts. COP is not an issue if sparks are used. Jojo - Original Message - *From:* Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! no spark gap on the photo, seems right

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: ** I wonder what motivation people have in spreading this misdirection? Unbelievable how people can lie to your face nowadays and keep it cool. Unbelievable. Jojo, we don't need a conspiracy to explain this line of

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
Message - From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: I wonder what motivation people have in spreading this misdirection

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: I wonder what motivation people have in spreading this misdirection? Unbelievable how people can lie to your face nowadays and keep it cool

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: ** BTW, if glow discharge is your goal, you wouldn't use a glow plug. In glow plugs, the heating element is encapsulated in a sheath. I am presuming you wouldn't want that in a glow discharge reactor? You're seeing pure

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: BTW, if glow discharge is your goal, you wouldn't use a glow plug. In glow plugs, the heating element is encapsulated in a sheath. I am presuming you wouldn't want that in a glow

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: You mention that the plugs often fail. Could this be due to clogging of the spark gap by particles of nickel metal that get melted by the intense heat of the spark? That is my guess, but I have not heard that from anyone. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Alain Sepeda
know that that was not the intention, no harm done, we can move on. Jojo - Original Message - *From:* Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2012 1:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! using a glowplug for heating is very natural, since it is very resistant, cheap, and easy to find.

RE: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: I wonder what motivation people have in spreading this misdirection? Unbelievable how people can lie to your face

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Bob Higgins
. Jojo PS. Those pictures are definitiely spark plugs. No question about it. - Original Message - *From:* Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2012 2:14 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! using a glowplug

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
are down again. Hence a temp spike. Jojo - Original Message - From: Bob Higgins To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! After surfing the different glow plugs on the web, I believe that Jojo is correct

RE: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
[mailto:jth...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:45 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! I supposed DGT can replace spark plug for glow plugs to misdirect, but that would still not explain the temp spike. Sparks are the only mechanism that can

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Robert Dorr
- Original Message - From: mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.comBob Higgins To: mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.comvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! After surfing the different glow plugs on the web, I believe that Jojo is correct, that what

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Robert Dorr
- Original Message - From: mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.comBob Higgins To: mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.comvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! After surfing the different glow plugs on the web, I believe that Jojo is correct, that what

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Robert Dorr
Sorry for the double post and a correction, I said the part was Ford Motorcraft Number SP-509, but it should be Ford Motorcraft Number SP-507. Robert Dorr

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Alain Sepeda
a temp spike. Jojo - Original Message - From: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! After surfing the different glow plugs on the web, I believe that Jojo is correct

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Terry Blanton
This is a Bosch iridium/platinum spark plug similar to the ones used in my Scion: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31siZsBbVoL._SL500_AA300_.jpg They are good for about 100,000 miles. They are required replacements in order to meet the California emissions standards. The deep threads are

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! spark glow and conduct

2012-07-15 Thread David L Babcock
mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! no spark gap on the photo, seems right. whether a glow or spark plug is a very important detail if a spark plug is needed, there is a needed

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Jojo Jaro
the diameter of the cylinder. Simple solution. Solves the fouling problem that I run into a lot in my early designs. Jojo - Original Message - From: Alain Sepeda To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! what

Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

2012-07-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: ** I believe you are mistaken. The round white end is the insulating ceramic. If you look closely, you can barely see the protruding electrode. The ground electrode can not be clearly seen. Either it can not be seen in