RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Remi Cornwall
Tsck! Vegan f.ing cats. What about in a zoo? Vegan f.ing lions and tigers!? Non-competitive sport, decaffeinated coffee, alcohol free beer, non-penetrative sex (so the woman doesn't feel stabbed in the feminist sense), new men, 'obscene wealth' and on and on. I can't be bothered to argue with

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Terry Blanton
To unsubscribe from the Vortex-L list simply send a null message (nothing in the body) to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject (less quotes, of course). Namasté! Terry On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Remi Cornwall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tsck! Vegan f.ing cats.

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Esa Ruoho
would it be time to comprehend the GEET plasma reactor method then? ive tried to put together a Pantone week on MERLib and this is the result: http://merlib.org/?q=person/paul-pantone their thermal discovery seems interesting, i grabbed it from their old powerpoint files. what the picture

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Esa Ruoho wrote: would it be time to comprehend the GEET plasma reactor method then? ive tried to put together a Pantone week on MERLib and this is the result: http://merlib.org/?q=person/paul-pantone their thermal discovery seems interesting, i grabbed it from their old powerpoint

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Esa Ruoho
2008/9/23 Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i see that the pantone thing is either called a plasma reactor, a refinery/carburetor system, or purely just transmutation. he seems to use the alignment of the magnetic field, a steel iron rod of specific length, temperature and so forth to

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Jones Beene
Esa ive tried to put together a Pantone week on MERLib and this is the result: http://merlib.org/?q=person/paul-pantone Nice work, and it looks like you already know of the large amount of work being done in France on this kind of fuel-reformer, and esp. from the Quanthomme website (love

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread John Steck
Succinct as ever. God how I've missed that. Best wishes. I've had my fill as well... later. -john -- From: Remi Cornwall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:41 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:41:44 -0600: Hi, [snip] The obese problem will gradually go away and be replaced by the underweight problem. I wonder how the government will handle this problem? [snip] The problem of obesity may not go away, because it is probably

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree, Robin. The food industry has made money at our expense, at least at the expense of people who don't do their homework. But don't me started on this outrage. When trying to predict the future in order to protect myself, I ask, how many basic mistakes at every level of living can a

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
eat all you want and not gain weight. -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:52 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil hypocritical also means applying opposite standards to oneself. She feels humans

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-23 Thread Terry Blanton
22, 2008 6:52 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil hypocritical also means applying opposite standards to oneself. She feels humans are natural herbivores, ...

[Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
I normally pay little attention to magazine articles with titles like this, but this one appears to be authoritative. See: http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/15/news/economy/500dollaroil_okeefe.fortune/ Other oil experts make similar predictions but nowhere near as dire in the short term. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Edmund Storms
His prediction would be correct if nothing else happened. Now we have two additional variables in play. The first is a world-wide depression. This will reduce energy demand and reduce use of oil - for a while. By the time this is over, new sources and effective conservation methods will

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread leaking pen
The obese problem will go away? No. A good portion of the obesity problem in the us is becuase cheap food is unhealthy food. Its not just overeating, its that some people can only afford crap to eat. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His prediction

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: His prediction would be correct if nothing else happened. Now we have two additional variables in play. The first is a world-wide depression. This will reduce energy demand and reduce use of oil - for a while. By the time this is over, new sources and effective conservation

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Remi Cornwall
: 22 September 2008 19:48 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil The obese problem will go away? No. A good portion of the obesity problem in the us is becuase cheap food is unhealthy food. Its not just overeating, its that some people can only afford crap to eat.

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Edmund Storms
On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:47 PM, leaking pen wrote: The obese problem will go away? No. A good portion of the obesity problem in the us is becuase cheap food is unhealthy food. Its not just overeating, its that some people can only afford crap to eat. True, but a person will lose weight by

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
leaking pen wrote: The obese problem will go away? No. A good portion of the obesity problem in the us is becuase cheap food is unhealthy food. Its not just overeating, its that some people can only afford crap to eat. And here is an irony, indeed an incomprehensible situation --

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Remi Cornwall
Yeah but the taste of a nice steak... I don't care for being a vegan. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 20:21 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil leaking pen wrote: The obese problem will go away

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Remi Cornwall wrote: So more regulation, right? A paternalistic state must step in here? I dunno. No, that will not be necessary. The problem can be fixed with several steps, mainly by reducing regulations and reducing government spending. Fewer but better regulations are called for.

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Remi Cornwall wrote: Yeah but the taste of a nice steak... I don't care for being a vegan. Progress in cultured meat will solve that problem. It will reduce energy inputs to food production by a HUGE amount. The energy savings are on the same scale as that which we can achieve with hybrid

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Remi Cornwall
You see that's what I love about science, the dreaming and then going in the lab to try it all out. Aaaah -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 20:55 To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil Hydrogen powered

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Remi Cornwall wrote: Yeah but the taste of a nice steak... I don't care for being a vegan. Rock solid reasoning. Dogs reason the same way when someone offers them chocolate. Crack heads reason the same way, too. Very deep thinking. How's your blood pressure, Remi? I just checked mine;

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread leaking pen
The issue in large part is just that, processing. Most people at or under the poverty line here in Phoenix live in a place that has a refrigerator, and MAYBE a stove top, no oven. A mircowave, as those are pretty cheap, and quick. Food processor, blender? Things like that to prepare food are

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Remi Cornwall
burning less heating oil burns calories too. -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 22:27 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil The issue in large part is just that, processing. Most people at or under the poverty line

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread John Steck
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil Remi Cornwall wrote: Yeah but the taste of a nice steak... I don't care for being a vegan. Rock solid reasoning. Dogs reason the same way when someone offers them chocolate. Crack heads reason the same way, too. Very deep thinking. How's your blood

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Remi Cornwall
Well if you socialist types genuinely feel so much for the poor, sell the shirt off your back, admit the LHC's crap, stab a modern artist hack, take all the subsidy back. Oh but n, there will always be poor and striving after an unobtainable goal makes people feel guilty for what? To make

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Ron Wormus
Another well written entertaining book that address the food question food is: The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan in which he traces the origin of the foods used in 4 meals; fast food, big organic, grass fed, hunter gatherer. Ron --On Monday, September 22, 2008 3:32 PM -0400 Jed

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil Remi Cornwall wrote: Yeah but the taste of a nice steak... I don't care for being a vegan. Rock solid reasoning. Dogs reason the same way when someone offers them chocolate. Crack heads reason the same way, too. Very deep

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread leaking pen
can 'dig for victory' and grow your own veg too in an allotment. Of course burning less heating oil burns calories too. -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 22:27 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Remi Cornwall
: 22 September 2008 23:42 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil (And vegan cats need a taurine supplement, for that matter.)

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread leaking pen
deranged cat owner saying Cats are sinful creatures, pussy must learn to be a good pussy cat. Tofu for tiddles. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 23:42 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil (And vegan

RE: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Remi Cornwall
]:Here comes $500 oil Becuase again, the poor have land to grow their own vegetables, money to buy seeds equipment and fertilizer, or TIME to do more excercising, or buy fish (more expensive by the pound than any other protein. Really, are you just trolling, or are you really that arrogant

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
leaking pen wrote: Ohh, god, I had a friend who did that. I spent thirty minutes lambasting her for her total and complete hypocrisy. Huh? Hypocrisy in what? Buying vegan food for her cat? How does that make her a hypocrite? Commercial vegan cat foods, of which there are several, contain

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: leaking pen wrote: Ohh, god, I had a friend who did that. I spent thirty minutes lambasting her for her total and complete hypocrisy. Huh? Hypocrisy in what? Buying vegan food for her cat? How does that make her a hypocrite? Let's put this on a firm

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread leaking pen
Since her main arguement for having gone vegetarian in the first place was a belief that humans are meant to be herbivourous, and that eating meat goes against nature. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: Ohh, god, I had a friend who

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since her main arguement for having gone vegetarian in the first place was a belief that humans are meant to be herbivourous, and that eating meat goes against nature. Ah. You are saying it is hypocritical to apply that argument to cats, because they are

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread leaking pen
hypocritical also means applying opposite standards to oneself. She feels humans are natural herbivores, but theres no doubt that cats are primarily carnivores. Therefore, making a cat an herbivore is, by her own logic, unnatural. I haven't seen anything saying cats are fed mainly rice. I see

Re: [Vo]:Here comes $500 oil

2008-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
This is threaded into the wrong place in the discussion because my POP3 email server is currently down (but I've still got SMTP). I'm such an addict I went to the archives to see what was being said... Pen said: Since her main argument for having gone vegetarian in the first place was a