Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-03 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Kevin, On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:18 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: You have a perception of someone who claims to be a lawyer who has missed > at least 2 major aspects of the law with respect to this case. You have a > one-sided perception. HE WAS THE ONE WHO STARTED THE INSULTS. But you > put

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Good post from EcatWorld, pulling some items from behind a paywall: Engineer48 • 20 hours ago [hush]​[hide comment] Some details of the initial shots fired by IH & Ross

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Eric: I notice that you didn't bother to address my example. Twice, now. Readers will be the judge of your moderating capabilities. You claim that by giving Mary the boot you'd be editorializing the content but you're already editorializing the content by coming down hard on only one side of the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Eric: Of COURSE you're happy with your own moderating because you are so one-sided at the approach. You have a perception of someone who claims to be a lawyer who has missed at least 2 major aspects of the law with respect to this case. You have a one-sided perception. HE WAS THE ONE WHO START

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-02 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Kevin, Eric, you're completely full of shit. > > The example I posted wasn't even an insult and it was moved to some other > thread. Here are some of your posts that were moved; readers will be the judge of how much value you added to the conversation in posting them, and how much they simply

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-02 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Eric, you're completely full of shit. The example I posted wasn't even an insult and it was moved to some other thread. And NO, you are NOT giving notice that certain posts have been moved to another thread. NOT EVEN ONE of my posts had that notification. You're so concerned about spam that

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-01 Thread Adrian Ashfield
1, 2017 10:16 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden Looks like things are finally underway in Miami, barring a hurricane. July is bit early for one, but there are already strong signs of a tropical depression, so to speak. Interesting thread has turned up on LENR forum - which has been joined

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: He should put up a PayPal link for donations... or is there on in place? Ah ha. https://www.gofundme.com/cold-fusion-journalism

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-07-01 Thread Jones Beene
Looks like things are finally underway in Miami, barring a hurricane. July is bit early for one, but there are already strong signs of a tropical depression, so to speak. Interesting thread has turned up on LENR forum - which has been joined by a hand's-on expert, in fact he claims to be a pi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
Ice Pick.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-30 Thread Che
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Lennart Thornros wrote: I personally believe that Rossi has at least ideas about how to make LENR > work, possibly he has a solution. Let him reveal that. He has promised > after the trial to show us. Rossi looks not as a fraudster to me. He act as > a passionate

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-30 Thread Che
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > It seems that Rossi has spent his adult life cultivating such people and > then stealing from them. Unfortunately, in the course of doing this, he may > have destroyed the last hope of funding for cold fusion. Unless the Texas > Tech proj

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: Comments get moved to another thread without notification. > When people such as yourself flood the forum with throwaway comments, we moderators would spam the place to give as many notifications. Had you known how things are done on LENR F

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-30 Thread Adrian Ashfield
Well said. AA -Original Message- From: Lennart Thornros To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Jun 30, 2017 2:33 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden Jed, I am not going in to a long discussion with you but I think your 'besser wisser' attitude needs a comment. You are sayi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
the report is not so convincing, except it have no value, a joke for the most kind. what is convincing, like for Lugano and DGT Milano, is that absence of any serious and credible answer. For me at this stage, it is definitive. if Rossi have something, he sure have lied and manipulated his partner

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, I am not going in to a long discussion with you but I think your 'besser wisser' attitude needs a comment. You are saying the ERV report is proof of fraud. Well, that is using a very low level to qualify a proof. The truth is that you with some support of IH has made that conclusion and so may

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > > Whoa. The ERV report is not really self-evident proof of anything to a > jury - other than that it supposedly provides a basis for Penon's > conclusion. These are average citizens who don't do data, so to speak. > I hope you are wrong about that, but I know nothing about t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > You said, > > > > ” I have met with the Brillouin people. As far as I know, they think Rossi > is criminal fraud.” > > > > Is as far as you know based on actual statements regarding the fraud > status of > > Rossi? > I don't think we discussed the details. The

RE: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jed— You said, ” I have met with the Brillouin people. As far as I know, they think Rossi is criminal fraud.” Is as far as you know based on actual statements regarding the fraud status of Rossi? Bob Cook

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Che
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Jones Beene wrote: But ... the big issue is this: can an ill-conceived contract be interpreted > by a jury to overlook the actual results (to imply that only the ERV's > conclusion matters, not the substance of the report) ? > > The World runs the way it does, pr

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Che
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > >> There aren't that many rules over here on Vortex but even still, some >> of your more vociferous and full-of-shit members over there have been >> banned from Vortex, like MaryYugo. >> > > Frankly, I do not unders

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Che
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > Comments get moved to another thread without notification. > Commenters can get put "on probation" without notification. You > yourself are a moderator but it doesn't say that on your title. You > allow insults from some people but not

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > If you listen to Brillouin, the Rossi technology works like a charm. > When and where did they say that!?? I have met with the Brillouin people. As far as I know, they think Rossi is criminal fraud. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
t;mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:10 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene wrote: This should be an epic trial, but it appears that people are expecting that it will end with the

RE: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
o:a.ashfi...@verizon.net> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden Jones, I had thought much the same thing. If the ERV's report is the deciding factor in the contract it will be difficult to put it aside.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Jones Beene
Yes of course. An "obvious fraud" will not fly, but if artfully done - it could be a question that goes to the jury. This outcome of bad data passing off as good may be unlikely, but so was various facts that led to OJ, Rodney King, Casey Anthony and other jury surprises. In short, juries can

RE: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Randy Wuller
enforceable. The idea Penon could just fraud up the report and Rossi wins is nonsense. Ransom From: Adrian Ashfield [mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden Jones, I had thought much the same thing. If the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Adrian Ashfield
Jones, I had thought much the same thing. If the ERV's report is the deciding factor in the contract it will be difficult to put it aside. Both sides paid/agreed on the man. I also agree IH will appeal it for ever if they lose - and ultimately declare chapter 11 if they lose, rather than pay

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Jones Beene
Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beenewrote: This should be an epic trial, but it appears that people are expecting that it will end with the general public knowing whether the Rossi technology works or not. Anyone can see it does not work. The Penon report is proof of that. Whoa. The

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > This should be an epic trial, but it appears that people are expecting > that it will end with the general public knowing whether the Rossi > technology works or not. > Anyone can see it does not work. The Penon report is proof of that. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
What are the possibilities that LENR is moved forward? Rossi wins because he supposedly fulfilled the contract, gaining interest from the press. Rossi loses and IH is free to pursue other LENR opportunities. Split-the-baby decision, both sides limping away with Status Quo Ante Bellum. All the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-28 Thread Jones Beene
This should be an epic trial, but it appears that people are expecting that it will end with the general public knowing whether the Rossi technology works or not. That's not going to happen. This is really not about science or a breakthrough in energy. This is a trial about a contract, havi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: > There aren't that many rules over here on Vortex but even still, some > of your more vociferous and full-of-shit members over there have been > banned from Vortex, like MaryYugo. > Frankly, I do not understand why people are bothered by Mary Yugo. She seems harmless to m

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-28 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Comments get moved to another thread without notification. Commenters can get put "on probation" without notification. You yourself are a moderator but it doesn't say that on your title. You allow insults from some people but not others in a one-sided fashion, again without notification. So t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-27 Thread Che
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > Eric Walker wrote: > > I don't think our approach has resulted in a skewing of the narrative > relating to the Rossi v. Darden story, except to filter out people who are > only seeking to pick a fight. Even those people's views have not bee

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-27 Thread Jones Beene
Eric Walker wrote: I don't think our approach has resulted in a skewing of the narrative relating to the Rossi v. Darden story, except to filter out people who are only seeking to pick a fight. Even those people's views have not been suppressed, merely moved to a separate thread where they wi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: They are following it on LENR-Forum but the moderation there is so > blatantly one-sided and biased that the actual narrative posted isn't what > went on. > > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance-items/?pageNo=3 > I will be

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-27 Thread Kevin O'Malley
They are following it on LENR-Forum but the moderation there is so blatantly one-sided and biased that the actual narrative posted isn't what went on. https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5271-clearance-items/?pageNo=3 Online kevmol.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: He should put up a PayPal link for donations... or is there on in place? I do not know. Ask him. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-27 Thread Jones Beene
He should put up a PayPal link for donations... or is there on in place? Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd posted this message on his blog: "I am in Miami, getting my sea legs after a 40-hour bus ride that arrived at 4 AM Sunday. I had raised enough for a two-week stay. I have a fantastic room 4 bloc

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd posted this message on his blog: "I am in Miami, getting my sea legs after a 40-hour bus ride that arrived at 4 AM Sunday. I had raised enough for a two-week stay. I have a fantastic room 4 blocks from the courthouse. Donations are still coming in, so I may be able to afford to stay the durati

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I believe Abd went to Florida to cover the trial. He might be on his way now, because the trial was delayed until Wednesday, as noted. I think he said he is asking the court for press credentials so that he can use his cell phone in the courthouse, so I guess he will be updating his web site in re

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-26 Thread Jones Beene
Actually some new material has been added and it appears that Jury selection will not start until Wednesday. Jones Beene wrote: Anyone know of a website which is following this trial ? Abd was rumored to be sitting in on the proceedings - but his site seems to have nothing new... http://co

[Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

2017-06-26 Thread Jones Beene
Anyone know of a website which is following this trial ? Abd was rumored to be sitting in on the proceedings - but his site seems to have nothing new... http://coldfusioncommunity.net/author/abd/

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread Axil Axil
Muon radiation is not immediately deadly. We all have muons passing through our bodies produced by cosmic rays. These muons contribute to 12% more or less of the total background radiation loading that exist in the background. [image: Inline image 1] Muons hardly react with the elements in our bo

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread Peter Gluck
If not, why not? > > The ERV is moot without his sworn testimony under fear of jepoardy. > > -- > *From:* Peter Gluck > *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2017 10:15 AM > *To:* VORTEX > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. > > Jed, > you s

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread Brian Ahern
: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. Jed, you suggest anyone reading the Penon report will have a Rothwellian negative revelation of nothingness. I may ask all our colleagues from this relatively inactive forum,: do you agree with Jed, or on the contrary they have the intuition of a successful test

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread Peter Gluck
Jed, you suggest anyone reading the Penon report will have a Rothwellian negative revelation of nothingness. I may ask all our colleagues from this relatively inactive forum,: do you agree with Jed, or on the contrary they have the intuition of a successful test? The data presented in the report a

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread Daniel Rocha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vBB8SgHazs 2017-04-03 0:05 GMT-03:00 Che : > > > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > As an ideologue, remember to alway keep your feet planted firmly on the > solid foundation of realism. > > > > Frankly, I'll take an ideological stance over cras

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > If LENR produces tons of energy in the aggregate, it will also produce >>> tons of all pervasive and highly penetrating meson based radiation exposure. >>> >> >> If that were true, I would be dead. >> > I doubt that you have seen LENR, at least in any measurable amounts...l

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread a.ashfield
:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. Brian, So your pledge not to reply to my posts didn't last long. I would have thought even you would know what a pyramid scheme was. AA On 4/2/2017 6:46 PM, Brian Ahern wrote: Rossi kindled interest in a similar fashion to B

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-03 Thread Brian Ahern
Once again - mistaken identity. I made no such pledge. From: a.ashfield Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 9:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. Brian, So your pledge not to reply to my posts didn't last long. I would have th

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Axil Axil
*Monasticism or monkhood is the purest form of communism and forms the basis of a spiritual way of life in which one renounces worldly pursuits and the evils of society to devote oneself fully to spiritual work.* *Monastic life plays an important role in many Christian churches, especially in the

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Che
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > As an ideologue, remember to alway keep your feet planted firmly on the solid foundation of realism. Frankly, I'll take an ideological stance over crass, money-grubbing commercialism, any day. Look where that's got us.

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Axil Axil
I doubt that you have seen LENR, at least in any measurable amounts...like Rossi has😉. On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > >> LENR produces energy by ripping apart matter into subatomic particles >> thereby producing radiation loading that is proportional

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > LENR produces energy by ripping apart matter into subatomic particles > thereby producing radiation loading that is proportional to the heat > produced. > No, it is not proportional. Radiation is seldom detected, and when it is, it is not proportional; the ratio of heat to ra

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread a.ashfield
adoff! *From:* Che *Sent:* Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:38 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, a.ashfield <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: See http://www.e-catworld.com/why-i-believe-in-the-e-

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Axil Axil
As an *ideologue*, remember to alway keep your feet planted firmly on the solid foundation of realism. Be aware that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Most beleive that LENR is rooted in miracles, but only spirituality is rooted in miracles and miracles are just not part of this world. A re

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Che
PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. > > > > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, a.ashfield wrote: > >> See http://www.e-catworld.com/why-i-believe-in-the-e-cat/ >> Like it or not, Rossi rekindled interest in LENR like no o

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Brian Ahern
Rossi kindled interest in a similar fashion to Bernie Madoff! From: Che Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, a.ashfield mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>>

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Che, this is a present for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD8WwCd7E14

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Che
Is this what we are all supposed to understand, now -- or is this just your considered speculative opinion? On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > @Che > > Your expectations about how LENR will evolve is almost universally held > but unfortunately incorrect. LENR produces energy by

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Che
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:39 PM, a.ashfield wrote: > Che, > Have you ever done anything apart from bitch about others failings? Well. > do tell us. > Stop being so predictably defensive and just answer the questions which MOST people will no doubt be asking -- especially after the despicable sp

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread a.ashfield
Che, Have you ever done anything apart from bitch about others failings? Well. do tell us. AA On 4/2/2017 4:38 PM, Che wrote: On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, a.ashfield > wrote: See http://www.e-catworld.com/why-i-believe-in-the-e-cat/

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Axil Axil
@Che Your expectations about how LENR will evolve is almost universally held but unfortunately incorrect. LENR produces energy by ripping apart matter into subatomic particles thereby producing radiation loading that is proportional to the heat produced. If LENR produces tons of energy in the aggr

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Che
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, a.ashfield wrote: > See http://www.e-catworld.com/why-i-believe-in-the-e-cat/ > Like it or not, Rossi rekindled interest in LENR like no other has. > Where's the BEEF?? Where's the damned water-heater the World was promised..? (Where's the 'Orbo' Revolution, for

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread a.ashfield
See http://www.e-catworld.com/why-i-believe-in-the-e-cat/ Like it or not, Rossi rekindled interest in LENR like no other has. AA On 4/2/2017 12:12 PM, Che wrote: Have I missed something? Why is Rossi still being taken seriously here on vortex-L? At the very least, his proprietary secrecy h

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread Che
Have I missed something? Why is Rossi still being taken seriously here on vortex-L? At the very least, his proprietary secrecy has cost Science a great deal. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 3:31 PM, a.ashfield wrote: > It has been evident for years that Rossi has been spending time boning up > on

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
t foster change, which LENR will cause IMHO.  Bob Cook        From: Axil Axil Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:21 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.  LENR will redefine a goodly amount of our current science. Unfortunately because of this new paradigm in science, LENR i

RE: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread bobcook39923
foster change, which LENR will cause IMHO. Bob Cook From: Axil Axil Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:21 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics. LENR will redefine a goodly amount of our current science. Unfortunately because of this new paradigm in science, LENR is very

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-02 Thread a.ashfield
Axil, I suppose that the paper you referenced could be right but their explanation is so lousy I don't know. I know what a soliton is but a half soliton sounds like clapping with one hand. It is reminiscent of string theory. You are right is saying "Unfortunately because of this new paradigm

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Axil Axil
LENR will redefine a goodly amount of our current science. Unfortunately because of this new paradigm in science, LENR is very esoteric. To support my assertion, this following reference shows that the Surface Plasmon Polariton (SPP) quasiparticle produces a monopole magnetic field. Half-solitons

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
He didn't seem to display 2017-04-01 22:20 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > Useless aggressiveness. It's not impossible, it is just that he seem to > display this kind of knowledge before. So, working with a specialist, did > good to him. He seemed to answer in a more casual way about some nuclear > ph

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
Useless aggressiveness. It's not impossible, it is just that he seem to display this kind of knowledge before. So, working with a specialist, did good to him. He seemed to answer in a more casual way about some nuclear phenomena than before. 2017-04-01 21:43 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield : > I suppose it

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread a.ashfield
Axil, So you say, and I don't mean that disparagingly. I don't know and don't have the time to investigate those esoteric theories well enough to understand if they are right. As far as I know, no one has ever demonstrated a magnetic monopole but some talk about them as real. The proof is le

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread a.ashfield
Partly true. A lot of your professors probably went to school about that time. I went to college before that. I suppose it is impossible for you to consider that one could keep up to date in a subject if motivated to do so. In passing. General Relativity was discovered 1905 - 1915. AA O

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Axil Axil
There is a difference between a monopole fundamental particle, a monopole quasiparticle like the SPP, and a magnetic field formatted to support monopole flux lines. The SmCo5 magnet produces a magnetic field that is anisotropic field (almost a monopole formated magnetic field). This SmCo5 type m

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
I mean, not after the theory of neutrinos was conceived in the standard model. 2017-04-01 19:42 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > That's philosophy of relativity. And that's from the 70's, not long after > it was inventive. Moreover, you don't need to know particle physics to > study relativity. > > 201

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's philosophy of relativity. And that's from the 70's, not long after it was inventive. Moreover, you don't need to know particle physics to study relativity. 2017-04-01 16:39 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield : > Rossi got a PhD in Philosophy with a thesis on relativity. I have no > reason to think he d

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread a.ashfield
Axil, I am not able to judge the properties of many of these smaller particles. They seem to be more a matter of the individual's belief than pinned down by experiment. Let me know when someone /proves/ the existence of a magnetic monopole. AA On 4/1/2017 3:39 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Rossi et

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi et al are confusing cause and effect. The strong and the weak force produce nuclear change and the subatomic particles are the effects of how those forces function. The strong and the weak force produce the pion, muons, and mesons that Rossi is now factoring into his theory. But these particl

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread a.ashfield
Rossi got a PhD in Philosophy with a thesis on relativity. I have no reason to think he didn't know something of atomic physics for many years. AA On 4/1/2017 3:13 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I am not being snarky. I am just stating something evident. And you seem to forget that I side with Rossi

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
I am not being snarky. I am just stating something evident. And you seem to forget that I side with Rossi and I think all is wrong with IH "evidences". 2017-04-01 13:51 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield : > Why be so snarky? You have no clue when Rossi learnt that. Jumping to > conclusions on such flimsy ev

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-04-01 Thread a.ashfield
Why be so snarky? You have no clue when Rossi learnt that. Jumping to conclusions on such flimsy evidence does nothing for your credibility. AA On 3/31/2017 6:10 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Not really a big deal. That's a merely cursory knowledge of particle physics. He probably learned about th

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-03-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
Not really a big deal. That's a merely cursory knowledge of particle physics. He probably learned about this when writing his last paper.

[Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

2017-03-31 Thread a.ashfield
It has been evident for years that Rossi has been spending time boning up on atomic physics. What he writes here makes sense to me, but perhaps others here, more expert than me, will comment. 1. Andrea Rossi March 31, 2017 at 12:55 PM

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1-year data published in lawsuit filing

2017-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I.H. uploaded the data from Rossi's 1-year test to the court filings. See: > I think I have that wrong. I think it was Rossi's attorney, Annesser, who uploaded the data as part of item 128. - Jed

[Vo]:Rossi 1-year data published in lawsuit filing

2017-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
I.H. uploaded the data from Rossi's 1-year test to the court filings. See: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzKtdce19-wyb1RxOTF6c2NtZkk 128-01 Exhibit 1.pdf Exhibit 2 is the electric power bills for the same period. Problems with this data were described previously, in Exhibit 5: 124-06

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reactor configuration

2016-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook wrote: > It's common practice to design a hydraulic system to measure pressure in a > cool leg attached hydraulically to the system being measured. > There is no indication they did that. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reactor configuration

2016-10-31 Thread Bob Cook
head associated with the cold leg compared to the hot leg is minor. I think you seem to raise issues without reasonable understanding of thermal hydraulic system engineering. Bob Cook From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:46 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi re

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reactor configuration

2016-10-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Let me add: They used an Omega model PX-309 pressure gauge with an operating temperature -40 to 85°C, in water that was ~103°C http://www.omega.com/pressure/pdf/PX309.pdf

[Vo]:Rossi reactor configuration

2016-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
The Rossi reactor configuration is described in one of the documents uploaded in the lawsuit between Rossi and I.H. Document 70-1, Exhibit 1. The contents are shown here: http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/10/26/e-cat-plant-test-plan-fabio-penon/ E-CAT MW1 ENERGY PLANT lN MIAMI, TESTS PLAN by Fabio P

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Leonardo Corp legal position improves

2016-06-06 Thread H LV
Oh F***. I don't give a Sh*T one way or the other. Harry On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Steve High wrote: > Why presume that the Court suspects IH as being the party who has > committed economic crime? > > On Monday, June 6, 2016, H LV wrote: > >> ​from >> >> >> https://thenewfire.wordpress

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Leonardo Corp legal position improves

2016-06-06 Thread Ruby
If we consider the many autonomous robots that tweet, post, comment, and reply for you, it may be! On 6/6/16 8:44 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: I have heard that many of the anonymous (avatar) supporters of Rossi's case on LENR forum and other blogs are Rossi himself - posting under various names.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Leonardo Corp legal position improves

2016-06-06 Thread Ruby
There is no reasoning with a digital meme. Elon Musk said it out loud - we may be living in a simulation, for AI is all around us. It just doesn't look like what we thought it would. All the records, pictures, data, comments, tweets, .pdfs, videos, etc of Rossi (-and everyone!) LIVES an aut

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Leonardo Corp legal position improves

2016-06-06 Thread Bob Higgins
I have heard that many of the anonymous (avatar) supporters of Rossi's case on LENR forum and other blogs are Rossi himself - posting under various names. On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Ruby wrote: > > There is no reasoning with a digital meme. Elon Musk said it out loud - > we may be living i

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Leonardo Corp legal position improves

2016-06-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Jack Cole wrote: Steve High wrote: "Why presume that the Court suspects IH as being the > party who has committed economic crime?" > > Yes, that is a painfully presumptive article written as if the > presumptions are facts. It is by an anonymous blogger. It's not

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Leonardo Corp legal position improves

2016-06-06 Thread Jack Cole
Steve High wrote: "Why presume that the Court suspects IH as being the party who has committed economic crime?" Yes, that is a painfully presumptive article written as if the presumptions are facts. It is by an anonymous blogger. It's not worth reading unless you enjoy reading propaganda. On

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Leonardo Corp legal position improves

2016-06-06 Thread Steve High
Why presume that the Court suspects IH as being the party who has committed economic crime? On Monday, June 6, 2016, H LV wrote: > ​from > > > https://thenewfire.wordpress.com/good-prospects-for-rossi-and-leonardo-corp-lawsuit/ > ​ > > ​<<​ > The reassignment of the lawsuit to the District Court

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