Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Let's wait for the next "What's New." Except his opinion re CF he is very smart, I think too. It's easy to win but a fine art to lose with dignity. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > From Terry, > > ... > > > What! No CF!?! > > A

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: Terry Blanton > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 3:39:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:What's New > > http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR11/Event/142304 > > Session V5: Physics for Everyone > 8:00 AM–11:00 AM,

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: We will examine examples of this, including claims of perpetual motion and cancer caused by cell-phone radiation. <><><><><><><> What! No CF!?! I believe he regards cold fusion as a form of perpetual motion. I don't see how he thinks cancer by cell-phone has been sugge

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry, ... > What!  No CF!?! A smart bully, if he wishes to stay in power, always makes sure he has an escape route planned, a plan that can more-or-less be gracefully executed if warranted. Say what you want about Dr. Park, but I think he is definitely smart. (IOW: I think he's hedging

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Terry Blanton
http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR11/Event/142304 Session V5: Physics for Everyone 8:00 AM–11:00 AM, Thursday, March 24, 2011 Room: Ballroom C1 Sponsoring Units: DMP DCMP Chair: Ivan Schuller, University of California, San Diego Abstract: V5.2 : Voodoo Science 8:36 AM–9:12 AM Preview Abstrac

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > Ah. So it is pure fantasy after all. Guilty as charged. > Either that or your bug picked up the wrong voice. I try to keep the "voices in my head" from bugging the predilections of others. It's the polite thing to do. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.z

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Nevertheless, > regardless of whether I think it's pathetic or not, it's continues to > be an interesting on-going event, one that I continue to watch > closely. It deserves rigorous scientific scrutiny, the kind of > scrutiny that is presumably going on right

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: A hypothetical conversation in room C1: > > * * * * > > AUDIENCE PARTICIPANT: Dr. Park, what are your thoughts on Rossi's > "Cold Fusion" device? > > DR. PARK: There isn't much I can say on the subject. > > AP: But... but... but why haven't you come out and ex

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Another hypothetical conversation in room C1 (This version is probably even less likely, but what the hey! I'm speculate'n here!) * * * * * AUDIENCE PARTICIPANT: Dr. Park, what are your thoughts on Rossi's "Cold Fusion" device? DR. PARK: There isn't much I can say on the subject AP: But... but.

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
A hypothetical conversation in room C1: * * * * AUDIENCE PARTICIPANT: Dr. Park, what are your thoughts on Rossi's "Cold Fusion" device? DR. PARK: There isn't much I can say on the subject. AP: But... but... but why haven't you come out and exposed it for what it is! The device is after all just

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
My guess is that he will attack Rossi. I don't see how he can maintain his standing with the extreme skeptics if he does not. Sooner or later one of them will call him out on that. They will accuse of being soft on the enemy. Or betraying the cause. Whatever they do . . . In Wikipedia they woul

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Peter Gluck
I have informed Bob all the about the essentials re the Rossi E-cat but till now he remains very silent- as I wrote at my EgoOut blog. Peter On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:29 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > From Terry: > > > Anyone care to guess? Hmmm? > > Based

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > Anyone care to guess? Hmmm? Based on Park's past performance I suspect he would prefer to scrupulously avoid discussing Rossi... unless someone in the audience deliberately confronts him with a pointed question: "Dr. Park. What is your opinion on the recent claims made in Bologna,

Re: [Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > From bobpark.org > > "DALLAS: THE APS MARCH MEETING NEXT WEEK. > > I'll be there to give an invited talk about what's new in Voodoo > Science, Thursday, March 24 at 8:36AM, in C1." > > Anyone care to guess?  Hmmm? Goodness me! That's today. ...as we speak. Regards Steven Vincent J

[Vo]:What's New

2011-03-24 Thread Terry Blanton
>From bobpark.org "DALLAS: THE APS MARCH MEETING NEXT WEEK. I'll be there to give an invited talk about what's new in Voodoo Science, Thursday, March 24 at 8:36AM, in C1." Anyone care to guess? Hmmm? T

Re: [Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: Why did 60 Minutes apparently remove APS's implied approval/endorsement of Duncan's analysis? Was there a legal issue here? Political pressure I suppose. Who knows? Who cares? It seems unlikely there was a legal issue because I am sure the statements were all factual, and t

Re: [Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-29 Thread OrionWorks
>From Jed: > OrionWorks wrote: > >> At this point I'm more curious about the recent behavior of 60 Minutes >> in removing APS's implied approval/endorsement of Garwin's analysis. > > Garwin? Don't you mean Duncan? Yes, I meant Duncan. My mistake. Why did 60 Minutes apparently remove APS's implie

Re: [Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-29 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell mounted the barricade and roared out: > OrionWorks wrote: > >> At this point I'm more curious about the recent behavior of 60 Minutes >> in removing APS's implied approval/endorsement of Garwin's analysis. > > Garw

Re: [Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: At this point I'm more curious about the recent behavior of 60 Minutes in removing APS's implied approval/endorsement of Garwin's analysis. Garwin? Don't you mean Duncan? The APS surely support's Garwin's attack during 60 Minutes, and they would be upset to read Garwin's tr

Re: [Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-29 Thread OrionWorks
>From Jed: > This removes any doubts about Robert Park. He has not given one inch. Not > one nanometer. I think Steve Krivit and some other people detected a change > in his attitude back when he said that cold fusion "is science." Perhaps he > meant the neutron studies only, or perhaps he changed

Re: [Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
This removes any doubts about Robert Park. He has not given one inch. Not one nanometer. I think Steve Krivit and some other people detected a change in his attitude back when he said that cold fusion "is science." Perhaps he meant the neutron studies only, or perhaps he changed his mind again.

Re: [Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-27 Thread thomas malloy
Harry Veeder wrote: WHAT’S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 24 Apr 09 Washington, DC Parksie pontificated, or should I say bloviated. 1. COLD FUSION: PLEASE, MAY I HAVE A CUP OF TEA? Energetics Technology, according to 60 Min correspondent Scott Pelley. An APS statement issued Wed. say

[Vo]:What's New Friday Apr, 24, 2009

2009-04-27 Thread Harry Veeder
WHAT’S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 24 Apr 09 Washington, DC 1. COLD FUSION: PLEASE, MAY I HAVE A CUP OF TEA? Last Sunday's edition of the CBS News program 60 Minutes was titled "Race to Fusion." It was 1989, Fleischmann and Pons are shown with the "cold fusion" test tube that would have

[Vo]:What's new, what's not, what's bad, what's good

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
Vo, Vo, I got directly contacted by someone called Michael Julian who seems similar to a Michel Julian but they can't be the same person. Obviously the names are similar. He told me to look at the logs and wondered what happened? So I did. Look, mate, it's the same old vortex: some old, some new,

Re: [Vo]: What's New Bob?

2007-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steve Krivit quotes Robert Park: >at the annual ACS Meeting in Dallas, but by June it was over. The Utah >research was exposed as a pitiful embarrassment. . . . For years the faithful >sulked at their own annual meetings held at swank resorts around the world. >There they could congratulate e

[Vo]: What's New Bob?

2007-03-23 Thread Steve Krivit
http://www.bobpark.org/ Friday, March 23, 2007 1. MARCH MADNESS: COLD FUSION PEAKS AROUND THE VERNAL EQUINOX. On this day 18 years ago, the University of Utah announced the discovery of cold fusion without giving any technical details (W