Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

I was reviewing the data series for the demonstration and would like to make a suggestion. Could a well filtered variable current source be used as the drive waveform for the active wire? I was thinking that a square wave source with DC offset might reveal some interesting phenomena. Set the

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Hey Jed - If you get a chance ask Chelani about SiO2 coating of the Isostan wire. His recently released patent has this as an essential step - and DK also seem to have copied this idea with their Al2O3+SiO2 coating. In the current work Chelani seems to have done away with the SiO2 coating? - or

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

The hydrogen will convect and distribute the heat quite evenly throughout the cylinder, there will only be a small temperature gradient top to bottom. Also results were calibrated against a non LENR heating wire in the same reactor. So I partly agree, calorimetry is imperfect, but probably good e

RE: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Hm... Chelani appears to be completely oblivious to the fact that cooling of his heater wires is primarily via convection in his 7 Bar H2 atmosphere. I know from firsthand experience that a majority of the heat will be carried from the wires to the glass surface directly above the wires. There w

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

> Wire diameter 0.2mm, 1000mm long gives 0.031cm³, or about 500W/cm³, Heat flux is all about surface radiation - not volume. The surface flux is surprisingly mild. The actual figures are: Volume basis 667W/cc Surface radiation 3.33W/cm2 Cheers Mark Snoswell.

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > > A dislike for the possibility that some "knowledge" might be wrong. (Mostly > illusory. To use cold fusion to test existing theory, one must have a > proposed mechanism. Exiting theory does rule out some mechanisms, perhaps, > but can

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

At 03:38 AM 8/15/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jarold McWilliams <oldja...@hotmail.com> wrote: Will cold fusion finally go mainstream after this ICCF-17? No. Well, in some senses, cold fusion is already "mainstream." The extreme, pseudoskeptical position is dead in t

RE: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

2 12:20 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation What is the new method of treatment for the wire? "The new method, although started from the old one in some key aspects, was really revolutionary about the practical parameters of: mechanical stability (few “leakage”

RE: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

What is the new method of treatment for the wire? "The new method, although started from the old one in some key aspects, was really revolutionary about the practical parameters of: mechanical stability (few “leakage” of the best material from the surface), percentage of material at small dimensio

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Jarold McWilliams wrote: Will cold fusion finally go mainstream after this ICCF-17? > No. > Celani has done independent testing, right? > Not sure what this means. Are you asking whether Celani has sent his device to others to be tested? The answer is no, but I think he has sent some samp

RE: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

t; Subject: Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:31:50 +1000 > > In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:14:32 +1000: > Hi, > [snip] > >>> Wire diameter 0.2mm, 1000mm long gives 0.031cm³, or about 500W/cm³, you > >

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:14:32 +1000: Hi, [snip] >>> Wire diameter 0.2mm, 1000mm long gives 0.031cm³, or about 500W/cm³, you > >I think that should be 0.31 cc, making it about 45 W/cc. I stuffed this up. :( It is indeed 0.031 cc. Regards, Robin van Spaando

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:01:26 -0300: Hi, [snip] >That`s still more than Rossi! His old reactor had 50cm3. > >2012/8/14 Robert Lynn > >> Wire diameter 0.2mm, 1000mm long gives 0.031cm³, or about 500W/cm³, you I think that should be 0.31 cc, making it about 45 W/c

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

That`s still more than Rossi! His old reactor had 50cm3. 2012/8/14 Robert Lynn > Wire diameter 0.2mm, 1000mm long gives 0.031cm³, or about 500W/cm³, you > were off by a factor of about 1000. It is likely that not the whole > thickness is active, and this is only early days in development, not e

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On 2012-08-15 02:47, Terry Blanton wrote: This image: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8mt4mJOTGvBUkl3SGNkcmQxTTg shows the effect from the air conditioner since the demonstration unit is not insulated. I just noticed that the pressure, resistance and temperature charts do not start from th

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Argh, I meant a factor of 100 (never a good look to cock up your own arithmetic when correcting someone) On 15 August 2012 02:32, Robert Lynn wrote: > Wire diameter 0.2mm, 1000mm long gives 0.031cm³, or about 500W/cm³, you > were off by a factor of about 1000. It is likely that not the whole >

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Wire diameter 0.2mm, 1000mm long gives 0.031cm³, or about 500W/cm³, you were off by a factor of about 1000. It is likely that not the whole thickness is active, and this is only early days in development, not even running at high temperature yet. On 15 August 2012 02:23, Daniel Rocha wrote: > T

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On 2012-08-15 03:21, Jed Rothwell wrote: When does Celani plan to switch it off? Friday, I think. Very nice, I'm looking forward to seeing the final charts. By the way, what is the general reaction to Celani's demo? Personally I have been very positively impressed so far, the presentation is

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

That's 14W/(PI*(0.3)^2)*1)~14W/(0.3mm^3)~45KW/cm^3. DAMN! 2012/8/14 Akira Shirakawa > On 2012-08-15 03:14, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> Thin like what? For any wire I can think of, I think for its volume it >> should yield a much higher density than Rossi's. >> > > It should be 0.2 mm thin. > > Chee

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Akira Shirakawa wrote: > This picture shows about 20.5 hours of cell activity. Nice. Is the reactor > still going on? Yes. > When does Celani plan to switch it off? Friday, I think. > Any information about the excess power spike at around the first hour of > activity? > The power was

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On 2012-08-15 03:14, Daniel Rocha wrote: Thin like what? For any wire I can think of, I think for its volume it should yield a much higher density than Rossi's. It should be 0.2 mm thin. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Daniel Rocha wrote: Thin like what? Thin like within an order of magnitude of eng. Rossi. This is Ni-H at high temperature, high power density, at a National Lab, with a detailed description of the material preparation. What's not to like? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On 2012-08-15 02:47, Terry Blanton wrote: This image: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8mt4mJOTGvBUkl3SGNkcmQxTTg shows the effect from the air conditioner since the demonstration unit is not insulated. This picture shows about 20.5 hours of cell activity. Nice. Is the reactor still going o

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

Thin like what? For any wire I can think of, I think for its volume it should yield a much higher density than Rossi's. 2012/8/14 Jed Rothwell > > The active constantan wire is ~1.1 m long. It is very thin. The total mass > is small, so the power density per cubic centimeter is high. I suppose i

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

NI guy = Brian Glass, Applications Engineering. Many thanks to him. As you see, nominal excess power is 12 to 14 W. Most perturbations are probably caused by changes in ambient temperature this morning when the air conditioning came on. Ambient at present 29.4 deg C. Surface temperature of devic

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > This image: > > https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8mt4mJOTGvBUkl3SGNkcmQxTTg > > shows the effect from the air conditioner since the demonstration unit > is not insulated. > > (From Jed) Source is from National Instruments "guy" according to

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

This image: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8mt4mJOTGvBUkl3SGNkcmQxTTg shows the effect from the air conditioner since the demonstration unit is not insulated. (From Jed) T

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Very good! > Thanks! After all you do, da nada! We have a lot of lurkers on Vortex. Ten minutes after I u/l, there are 25 views. :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

On 2012-08-15 02:10, Terry Blanton wrote: Jed just gave me a copy. I have u/l to google: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8mt4mJOTGvBeXJCNXNUdEJVME0 Haven't read it yet. I have another; but, we are awaiting permission to share. Very good! Thanks! Cheers, S.A.

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Oh, Jed suggested the following edit: Nuked eyes => naked eyes But, the document is locked and does not accept changes. T On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Jed just gave me a copy. I have u/l to google: > > https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8mt4mJOTGvBeXJCNXNUdEJVME0 > >