what did you expect from a corp...
a video of the tests ? preliminary results on rough paper with units
errors ?
it is annoying for us, but that is the rule of regular corp communication
...
no comment before all is checked.
their short message is already at the limit of what is allowed
2012/2
I think they have a "first things first" politics. Authorities are
influential people who take decisions. We at Vortex are just curious
people, kibitzes, electronic paper tigers, with low impact. In the best
case- kind of consultants. Can we come and say: "Guys, we have perfectly
solved the problem
Personally, I don't have a big problem with them taking some more time.
Their silence over the past days just confirms that they have been busy
hosting. And I can imagine that it takes a while to put the results in
writing in a way that pleases both DGT and the government officials.
That is: if
>From Andre,
> WOW! That sounds very impressive!
>> Tests with the presence of high level Government officials
>> have been concluded. Opinions and results were very positive.
>>
>> Announcements will be made upon mutual agreements, at a time
>> yet to be defined.
>>
>> Tests continue with intern
Is Rossi working for DGT now? :-)
Em 28 de fevereiro de 2012 09:51, Andrea Selva <
andreagiuseppe.se...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> WOW ! That sounds very impressive!
>
>
> 2012/2/28 Andre Blum
>
>> Latest defkalion post:
>>
>>
>> Tests with the presence of high level Government officials have bee
WOW ! That sounds very impressive!
2012/2/28 Andre Blum
> Latest defkalion post:
>
>
> Tests with the presence of high level Government officials have been
> concluded. Opinions and results were very positive.
>
> Announcements will be made upon mutual agreements, at a time yet to be
> defined.
I must admit that the forecasts from Path/Pseudo Skeptics are becoming more
and more accurate... heh... That makes me really, really sad.
2012/2/28 Andre Blum
> Latest defkalion post:
>
>
> Tests with the presence of high level Government officials have been
> concluded. Opinions and results we
IMHO Defkalion has told that they do not believe
in simple theories. I have said the same starting with my "topology is the
key"paper in 1992.
Our colleague Daniel Rocha has said that LENR is something like
photosynthesis.
Not very encouraging, we still not know how
photosynthesis works- in all its
>From Terry:
> (third message on page)
>
> excerpt:
>
> "We requested for a Skype conference call with Mr Smith, similar to
> what he had requested from Mr Rossi. Mr Smith declined our offer.
> Strangely, when Mr Rossi declined Mr Smith, Mr Smith called
> Mr Rossi a scam. Should we consider the sa
It seems to me as Dick Smith doesn't want to understand what Defkalion
offers:
http://ecatnews.com/?p=2068
Where do they talk of a minimum COP of 3? They just say, that 3 will
definitely be met and even surpassed... This is totally in line with the
proclaimed COP of 20 and above as Defkalion o
and the discussion continues here: http://ecatnews.com/?p=2054
Dick Smith
February 16, 2012 at 10:36 pm
I would consider piggy backing on the Greek Government test if is conducted
shortly and if it is carried out by their internationally respected
scientific community .
Of course it would have to
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote:
> Dick Smith will make offer official to DGT. below his replies
> on http://ecatnews.com/?p=2045
>
> Assuming it really is him.
>
> Dick Smith
> February 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm
> Yes. I am the real Dick Smith and the offer is genuine.
> I will con
Dick Smith will make offer official to DGT. below his replies on
http://ecatnews.com/?p=2045
Assuming it really is him.
Dick Smith
February 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Yes. I am the real Dick Smith and the offer is genuine.
I will contact Defkalion and organize the simple testing protocols. Does
anyone h
The names were those of the leaders and investors.
The gentleman with a seemingly Romanian name
- Aurel- is actually Swiss Hungarian -they told.
Their very good engineers-high class- remain still unknown. I hope to meet
them and to congratulate hem this Spring when I will visit Defkalion.
For the t
nd. Or he seems hell-bent on killing off 3/4 of the population so we
don't need to consume as much... Just depends on your point-of-view
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:16:03 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT willing to accept Dick Smith's offer +
> Official tests info
>
Hot Damn! I luv it!
The following personal speculation of mine assumes DGT's acceptance
wasn't a rumor:
The offer puts skeptic, Dick Smith, in the hot seat. We need to watch
very carefully how Smith responds. If he had been "banking" (no pun
intended) on the premise that Rossi or DGT would ever a
From: Roarty, Francis X
*
* So Feb 25th may reveal a new leader in the field but without a big name
researcher at the helm? Will a new name responsible for all the claimed
improvements arise or will they remain just an engineering house tweaking the
discoveries of others?
Act
. DGT is proceeding well according to the information available at
this time.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
To: vortex-l
Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT willing to accept Dick Smith's offer + Official
tests info
So Feb 25t
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:53 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT willing to accept Dick Smith's offer +
Official tests info
Good to hear that Dick Smith offered the prize and Defkalion accepted. Too bad
that he did not want to extend it into ge
Good to hear that Dick Smith offered the prize and Defkalion accepted. Too
bad that he did not want to extend it into general cold fusion X-Prize,
because cold fusion field would deserve such prize. But perhaps Dick was
not for charity thing, but he genuinely thought that Defkalion and Rossi
are sc
..@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Jarold McWilliams
wrote:
> Just more useless speculation that you are wrong about. I was on DGT
while MY was there, and I told her/him to be more p
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Jarold McWilliams wrote:
> I can prove that I've had it since April, 2010, but I think I've had it since
> about 2008.
We're playin' the joker, Oldjar. Wild card. Chill.
T
I can prove that I've had it since April, 2010, but I think I've had it since
about 2008.
On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Jarold McWilliams
> wrote:
>
>> Just more useless speculation that you are wrong about. I was on DGT while
>> MY was
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Jarold McWilliams wrote:
> Just more useless speculation that you are wrong about. I was on DGT while
> MY was there, and I told her/him to be more patient until more information
> was released.
Well, we are familiar with MPD. How old is your hotmail account?
Jarold sez:
> It's my deadline based on the things both Rossi and Defkalion said.
> If nothing happens by that time, I will stop paying attention to this
> drama and consider that it is most likely a fraud.
Well shoot! So Rossi has finally violated your deadline, and now
you're miffed. You've los
aud and move on… nothing to see
>> here.
>>
>> -Mark
>>
>> From: Jarold McWilliams [mailto:oldja...@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:48 AM
>> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing
>>
>> I
Just more useless speculation that you are wrong about. I was on DGT while MY
was there, and I told her/him to be more patient until more information was
released. Rossi refused to do something that he said he was going to do.
On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15,
>From Jarold
...
> ... I want real answers for his refusal instead of snakes and clowns.
Patience grasshopper.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
> Oh no… sounds like MaryYugo’s brother… only worse.
Well, hmmm. He did appear on PDGT *after* MY's ban there. And here . . .
T
n… nothing to
> see here.
> ** **
> -Mark
> ** **
> *From:* Jarold McWilliams [mailto:oldja...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:48 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing
> ** **
> I have been ver
of us…
>
> If it makes you feel good, just call it a fraud and move on… nothing to see
> here.
>
> -Mark
>
> From: Jarold McWilliams [mailto:oldja...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:48 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defk
here.
-Mark
From: Jarold McWilliams [mailto:oldja...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing
I have been very patient with all of this. I was willing to wait until
March 31, and even then I wouldn't consider it
Man began using fire/combustion approx. 46,000 years ago and we are still
using combustion as our primary energy source. I think you should be
patient and wait a few more weeks...
The frustration from Rossi is "Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing"
Let's continue to hope we get something. I have
I have been very patient with all of this. I was willing to wait until March
31, and even then I wouldn't consider it 100% fraud with no tests. Rossi is a
liar if he doesn't even look into conducting a test with Smith, and there is no
reason to believe anything he says with no proof.
On Feb 15
[snip] This is a well known and well documented phenomenon related with the
H2-> H1-> H2 circle [/snip] sounds like zero point energy in the Moller - Lyne
tradition.
Fran
From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:43 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERN
2012/2/7 Robert Leguillon :
> It's entirely possible that the calculation of Total topics includes topics
> that have been removed (e.g., SPAM) or moved.
>From the number of spam posts which create a topic that I have seen, I
would say that you are right-on with that conclusion.
T
le caveat is given in
the thread title that this is completely unfounded speculation.
Hence the question "Do any Vortexians qualify for access to Associates Corner?"
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:47:53 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation
> F
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Robert Leguillon
wrote:
> Thoughts?
There are 3,154 posts in "Q&A and Older Discussions":
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/index.php
This was when the forum was open then closed due to too much riffraff
and viral s(c)eptic infections. While those messages
the tittle was not "admin forum", but associates cornet... and talk of
companies for building and science... mean partners, mean real stuff and
not only cash
one more evidence that Defkalion is not an Internet Dog Company.
and the quick removal mean, that they want to keep quiet and don't want to
Invisible forums and subforums is something common. Sometimes, to see them,
you are required to register on websites. In general, admins and mod uses
hidden forums to discuss forum policies.
I don't think this is a big deal.
2012/2/7 Robert Leguillon
> While waiting for useful, conclusive info
ah ah, name have disappeared, like LENR on NI communities site...
seems to be talk between engineers and researchers, and business men, far
from the "memonomenon scientists" ;-)
2012/2/7 Robert Leguillon
> While waiting for useful, conclusive information, impatience can lead to
> data prospe
At 09:31 AM 1/24/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 11:09 PM 1/23/2012, Alain
Sepeda wrote:
since defkalion feel that the
COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist.
Static would be fine IF you monitor the entire surface of the
hyperion.
But I'm not at all happy with the two-thermometer COP calcul
Has anyone stepped up yet, and is preparing to perform independent testing?
I assume there HAS to be interest in this subject.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Robert Lynn wrote:
I find it a little disappointing, that Defkalion are not going to use flow
> calorimetry for their demos. Their choice of course.
I believe they intend to do that at a later date. Static (Isoperobolic)
calorimetry is a little easier to set up, especially on this scale. It is
static calorimetry is ok, if they open their core, and it seems to be in
the plan.
smaller reactor mean also less room to hide rabits...
I think that thei perfectly know how the demo will be, and they have done
it many time.
they probably have a very precise model of their reactor.
it is why they
I find it a little disappointing, that Defkalion are not going to use flow
calorimetry for their demos. Their choice of course. It is a bit hard to
understand their test procedure, they specify a "Bare" hyperion reactor but
what that means is unclear, it also sounds like they are not using a
cool
At 11:09 PM 1/23/2012, Alain Sepeda wrote:
since defkalion feel that the COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist.
Static would be fine IF you monitor the entire surface of the hyperion.
But I'm not at all happy with the two-thermometer COP calculation.
I've got some other stuff to do, but
What is really good is that they want to test it for 96 hours (48+48)
minimum. I think that will give so much more credibility to the invention.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
> since defkalion feel that the COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist.
>
> moreover scientis
since defkalion feel that the COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist.
moreover scientist are easy to manipulate (see the books of William
Broad, *Nicholas
Wade)*, so good old tricky engineer would be better.
if you are really paranoid, a good magician/prestidigitator could be a
consultant.
I think the best would be an engineer- salesman like the one who had
installed my home heater BOSCH 3000W plus a technician specialized
in radioactivity measurements for an environment protection State
authorithy.
A good generator needs NO geniuses to confirm that it works well, I think.
On Tue,
, 2012 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now
A few thoughts come to mind.
I think this forum can put together a team that would do a great job of
testing.
I know who would NOT be a good choice:
- NOT a university that has any involvement with
A few thoughts come to mind.
I think this forum can put together a team that would do a great job of
testing.
I know who would NOT be a good choice:
- NOT a university that has any involvement with hot fusion, CERN, etc.
- NOT a govt agency; can't trust them to be honest, or to do it effi
Steorn had done something similar. But their testing dragged on and on ad
infinitum.
I would say teams from different universities, i.e. academia would make
good candidates.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Douglas Hill wrote:
> If we could pick any team in the world to do this testing, who wo
If we could pick any team in the world to do this testing, who would you
trust?
Who would be the Super Star team of scientists, skeptics and journalists
who would be the most credible?
On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-01-23_Independe
-Mark
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 3:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel
Global Ni use/production was discussed many months ago here, but I think
it's a little
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
> Rossi's patent is essentially worthless because it does not disclose enough
> about the nature and working of the invention to be defended in the courts.
I disagree. No patent is worthless given sufficient lawyerage.
T
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>
> > Andrea Rossi has a patent in Italy which is enforceable in the entire EU.
>
> No. 0001387256
>
Rossi's patent is essentially worthless because it does not disclose enough
about th
Regarding MY, Jed sez:
> Okay, that's it! I am sick of your useless, gratuitous,
> snide comments. You add nothing to the discussion saying
> that kind of thing. I am adding you to my auto-delete file.
> You are a tiresome jerk. Go away.
I suppose I should say, Shoot! There goes my evening entert
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>>> Andrea Rossi has a patent in Italy which is enforceable in the entire EU.
>>
>> No. 0001387256
>
> Of course, one must have the funds to defend any patent. Enforcement
> is the burde
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>> Andrea Rossi has a patent in Italy which is enforceable in the entire EU.
>
> No. 0001387256
Of course, one must have the funds to defend any patent. Enforcement
is the burden of the patent holder.
T
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> Andrea Rossi has a patent in Italy which is enforceable in the entire EU.
No. 0001387256
T
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
> Oh yes, because I am so far off the mark. Why don't you get upset with
> Defkalion and Rossi for jerking the entire world along with their
> unsupported claims, unconfirmed customers, unproven, unpatented, and
> uncertain devices, and grandiose
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Mary Yugo wrote:
>
>
>> I can't guarantee what a typical law maker or influential industrialist
>> would ask first but I bet most of the thrust would be on "does it work, has
>> it been independently tested, and how do we know the huge claims
Mary Yugo wrote:
> I can't guarantee what a typical law maker or influential industrialist
> would ask first but I bet most of the thrust would be on "does it work, has
> it been independently tested, and how do we know the huge claims are
> valid?" And even if they ask about the supply of nic
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
> The first thing they asked about the Fleischmann-Pons experiments was: "Is
> there enough palladium to do this?" Fleischmann answered: "No, there
> isn't." He said that at MIT and many other places. I think he was right, as
> I said in my bo
Here is something I added to the discussion at Defkalion:
"In the information you copied from INSG.org, they noted there may be Ni on
the sea floor. It is also fairly abundant in sea water, at 480 ng/kg. That
is a lot more than Zr, Ti, Au or Pd, for example. (These elements have been
used in cold
M
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel
Mary Yugo wrote:
Does anyone seriously think that in the foreseeable future, the limiting
feature of making energy by nickel-hydrogen fusion is going to be the supply
of nickel?
No, we do n
How much Ni is used in a AA size NiCad battery In the battery recycling
Wikipedia page, it has a table which shows that a NiCad is 22% Ni, and NiMH
is 35% (I assume by mass?). What's an AA weigh, a few tens of grams? 100g?
-m
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Satur
Mary Yugo wrote:
> Does anyone seriously think that in the foreseeable future, the limiting
> feature of making energy by nickel-hydrogen fusion is going to be the
> supply of nickel?
No, we do not think that, because we understand something about the
reaction. Again, you are ignoring what I w
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
>
> No, it is not ridiculous. You are being ridiculous, negative, and silly.
> Cut the crap. It is a perfectly legitimate question. The information
> provided by Defkalion on Ni in response to this question is very useful.
>
Does anyone serio
Mary Yugo wrote:
I am absolutely astounded that anyone really cares about this compared to
> other possible concerns about this presumed technology or about other
> wastes in other places. 10 grams of nickel for 6 or more months or
> providing what? -- a dozen or more kilowatts continuously? .
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> See:
>
> http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=836
>
> Go down several messages, to the one that begins:
>
> "Every charge of a Hyperion reactor (assuming a single reactor kernel)
> requires approx 10gr of specially prepare
Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 10:29 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion described how they got Rossi's formula
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
"However, Defkalion spokesman Alexandros Xanthoulis told Swedish science
magazine NyTeknik that they know exactly what the catal
o.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion described how they got Rossi's formula
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jed Rothwell
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
"However, Defkalion spokesman Alexandros Xanthoulis told Swedish science
magazine NyTeknik that they know exactly
What about Jed Rothwell's secret source who just came back with glowing reviews?
On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:35, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
>
>
> On 2 January 2012 04:35, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
> wrote:
> Not having direct access I think it's difficult for any of us to determine
> whethe
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> "However, Defkalion spokesman Alexandros Xanthoulis told Swedish science
> magazine NyTeknik that they know exactly what the catalyst is. In a piece
> of subterfuge, a spectroscopic examination was carried out on an E-Cat
> being while it was
>From Jouni,
> I cannot understand where did you get such an impression.
> Defkalion is still nothing but an unpopular discussion forum
> in the Internet. Nothing else. There is only one spokes person,
> Xanthoulis, who is making bold claims, without any real proofs.
>
> Everyone who has personal
On 2 January 2012 04:35, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
> Not having direct access I think it's difficult for any of us to determine
> whether DGT or Rossi is ahead in the game. DGT strikes me as better
> organized, company wise. The organization is probably b
So where is the data obtained from the mass spec data taken by U. Padua?
Is it in the paper, "A. Carnera, S. Focardi, A. Rossi, to be published on Arxiv"
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Defkalion
I remember reading some of this stuff.
Regarding the following statement from DGT:
...
> "We were surprised to see our old designs used in public
> testing. We were confused why our old designs were implemented
> wrongly, as well as witnessing insufficient use of instruments
> and te
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> Defkalion's kernel is rectangular, not cylindrical. They have found a
> way to wafer the kernel in such a way that the reaction is spread over
> a greater area.
Here's the thread on Defkalion's geometry. I suspect that since they
called it
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> If there was subterfuge, it is no wonder Rossi is upset.
But Rossi is also guilty of subterfuge. He has copied the geometry of
Defkalion. Note that Defkalion stated they were surprised at what
they saw when the October 6th demo Ottoman was
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> If I were Mary Yugo, in view of my report I would think twice about making
> lurid accusations that Defkalion is engaged in fraud.
>
Where did I make "lurid accusations" of fraud? Links please?
> I would cut back on the use of adjectives
On 2011-12-22 16:44, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4956#p4956
On a side note, speaking of Defkalion GT, while reading E-Cat related
comments on a different website I found this image originating from PESN
[1]:
http://i.imgur.com/lFWUT.gif
I
So adept at stating the obvious.
You're about as useful as tits on a bullfrog.
-m
From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:23 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?
How do you figure that from those posts?
The video linked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc was made
May 29, 2009, well after the EarthTech web page you linked and shows
neutron interactions inside the CR-39 film. You really do need to watch
the whole video.
On 12/18/2011 8:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 a
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> What no comment on the SPAWAR presentation?
>
Brief search shows: "Our results do not provide a positive identification
of the origin of SPAWAR pits. However, they do show that chemical origin
is a distinct possibility and therefore tha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc
On 12/18/2011 8:43 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
Whoa there. Can you stick a subject for a second? What in the world
makes you think Defkalion offered you a real opportunity to visit?
How's it going with the schedule for Rossi to deliver a suitable
therma
Whoa there. Can you stick a subject for a second? What in the world makes
you think Defkalion offered you a real opportunity to visit? How's it
going with the schedule for Rossi to deliver a suitable thermal plant to
connect to your generator?
With respect to SPAWAR, the main thing I know abou
What no comment on the SPAWAR presentation? No comments these people did
not know how to measure what they were observing or that someone faked
the results? While there is nothing wrong with holding an agnostic view
of LENR, you cross the line and loose objectiveness when you have an
agenda tha
PS: If you do get to enter their place, you will be the first person
**ever** to see the Hyperion device outside of maybe Defkalion staff and
people who couldn't talk about it. If there is a device, of course.
Be sure to take your hidden camera -- these days those are simple as a
slightly larger
How do you figure that from those posts?
I'll believe it when you have an appointment, a specific agenda to test
something by a particular method, and a street address. Until then it's
vapor and not steam.
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> Seems a door has been opened f
Am 15.12.2011 19:50, schrieb Alan J Fletcher:
At 10:32 AM 12/15/2011, Peter Heckert wrote:
The mechanism is constructed in such a way that any hard x-rays
so far, so good ...
or external gamma measurements are detected and it will trigger.
How can you detect an EXTERNAL gamma measurement?
At 10:32 AM 12/15/2011, Peter Heckert wrote:
The mechanism is constructed in such a way that any hard x-rays
so far, so good ...
or external gamma measurements are detected and it will trigger.
How can you detect an EXTERNAL gamma measurement?
Or do you mean that an attempt to probe the in
Am 15.12.2011 19:12, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Am 14.12.2011 21:05, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charly Sistovaris
wrote:
That's in Athens, not Xanthi which is a town in the North.
You often bring up good arguments, but the bickering is a tiresome.
I simply copied the inf
Am 14.12.2011 21:05, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charly Sistovaris
wrote:
That's in Athens, not Xanthi which is a town in the North.
You often bring up good arguments, but the bickering is a tiresome.
I simply copied the information given by Defkalion and indeed it's
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> If they are going to allow visits, they should start by
> inviting Stremmenos.
>
LOL!
If they are going to allow visits, they should start by inviting Stremmenos.
- Jed
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> All you have to do is create an account under, say, Jaguar, and act
> like a believer. Then you say that you'd like to visit like that pell
> dude.
Of course you can't get in if it's only an out.
It's called "calling the bluff."
T
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>> There's still a chance if she logs in as someone else because they
>> don't know who he/she really is.
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> Nonsense. Why would they let me, of all people, in? Who have they let
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