Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-21 Thread ken deboer
the water. > > ** ** > > It’s all about resonance… > > ** ** > > -Mark Iverson > > ** ** > > *From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:10 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
ednesday, November 21, 2012 2:10 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear Curiously, 430 kHz is also in the range which is considered to be ultrasound. That frequency turns up as a signature of one form of LENR, according to recent r

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Curiously, 430 kHz is also in the range which is considered to be > ultrasound… 10 times Stanley Meyer's dissociation frequency, too.

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-21 Thread Jones Beene
Curiously, 430 kHz is also in the range which is considered to be ultrasound. That frequency turns up as a signature of one form of LENR, according to recent revelations - and it would be a mistake to over-generalize from that alone; but . there are a number of principles of reciprocity which t

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-21 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:07:06 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] >Thinking of acousticsIf the hemispheres are very accurately machined then >any ultrasonic excitement of the surface that is symmetrical will form waves >that collide at the center of the device. Very

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread David Roberson
nerator on steroids. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear In reply to David Roberson's message of Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:59:07 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] >Does t

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The biggest problem with Thrapp/Davey is that here we are 4 years later > and there is no commercial unit, BUT this situation is little different to > Rossi’s delay - since AR claimed to be in full production over a year ago. > One of the ple

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:59:07 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] >Does this device operate with standard tap water that has impurities? The >mention of an RF resonator in the video has interesting implications if this >device actually works. The spherical shape of the

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
One explanation for the gain involves wave polarization leading to multiplication of sonic energy. This would be similar to the “singing bowl” phenomenon. S and P Polarization is probably natural to nested hemispheres when the gap is ideal. Thus one can rationalize using basically what is in thi

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread David Roberson
to ultrasonic drive, but they also might be true boiling. Has anyone had a close look at any of these types of experiments to uncover deception? Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:51 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Gluck
Steven E. Jones was very active in emitting conspiracy theories re 9/11. I have forgot the details but they are on the Web. Peter On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jones can tell a bigger, bolder lie than anyone else I know. His chutzpah > is unbounded. He does not even both

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones can tell a bigger, bolder lie than anyone else I know. His chutzpah is unbounded. He does not even bother to make the lie believable He has such contempt for you, the audience, that he does not bother to make the lie seem credible. He reminds me of Soviet Era judges who would send people to

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtvKnZk9iM Video by Steven Jones http://www.youtube.com/user/TheProfJones List of all videos Cheers: Axil On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:39 PM, wrote: > Courtesy of pesn.com - > > Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTV85J2QHj0 &feature=plcp contrast this one with the Thrapp video as it is a bit more believable - there are differences and similarities - however, can there be any doubt that geometry and resonance are in

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
ue, Nov 20, 2012 12:11 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear Actually, I think that this is one of the better slide presentations out there this year - in the entire field - despite a few controversial statements and being in need of massive editing. Ha

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
In fact, it seems to me now - in retrospect - that there was a strong sub-theme at ICCF-17 on Rhenium. Why? Well, it is group 7 and has massive valence electron flexibility, and is a Mills catalyst - but note that in contrast to Miles we have the results of an Re alloy with Pd that is spectacular,

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread David Roberson
e might be another case where that concept is valid. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:11 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear Actually, I think that this is one of the better slide presentations

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Just responding to this because travelling. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > Here is my exegesis of Sterling Allan's presentation of Steven Jones's recent > research: > > 1. There is piezonuclear fusion. Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery was not > this

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
Actually, I think that this is one of the better slide presentations out there this year - in the entire field - despite a few controversial statements and being in need of massive editing. Hats off to Steven Jones to support the Davey device, even though that inventor was nutty - and the prior cla

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.totalizm.nazwa.pl/boiler.htm This reference contains technical details of the boiler invented by Mr Peter Daysh Davey which is the basis of the design discussed in this thread. Cheers: Axil On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:39 PM, wrote: > Courtesy of pesn.com - > > Steven Jones replica

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
I thought the article was incoherent enough that I'd be afraid to guess what the author really thinks his own point is. Ymmv. Jeff On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > Here is my exegesis of Sterling Allan's presentation of Steven Jones's > recent research: > > 1. There is piez

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Eric Walker
Here is my exegesis of Sterling Allan's presentation of Steven Jones's recent research: 1. There is piezonuclear fusion. Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery was not this. 2. There is metal-assisted d-d fusion. Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery was also not this. 3. There is anamalous xs heat, or

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
It's a really weird article. It starts off with this title: Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion Then the author (Allen) goes on to quote Jones as follows: "... there is a confirmed and published effect showing products of d-d [deuterium-deuterium] fusion at low levels.

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Gad. What a jerk. Was, is, remains. - Jed