>From David
> 12 replies to my question is not bad but the integral is actually about what
> the gravity force is to a spherical mass distribution compared to a point
> mass. The so called center of gravity can not be used as a center of gravity
> since matter closer to a body attracts more than w
>From Frank
> I have no U tube channel. The videos are a product of bothme and
> Lane. I have only posted this video on my page.
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chaptere.html
FWIW I would strongly recommend you create your own You Tube Channel,
where you maintain total control over the c
>From Robin:
> How do you distinguish between the chaos of celestial mechanics, and
> the chaos of limited precision mathematics?
You bring up a good point. I need to be more precise in my wording.
It would be more accurate to state the fact that I'm investigating the
razor's edge between where
> I’m a long time cold fusion researcher – mostly as a hobby. Are there any
> venture capital investors or angel investors that want to help me find out
> if the claims of BlackLight Power Inc. (BLP) are real? My proposed attempt
> at BLP’s experiment is detailed here:
>
> http://www.waterarc.com
Frank,
Regarding:
> The video is pretty good considering that it was done
> with no money and no help. It is a fine job I believe.
> Lane is a quick study and I am learning more. In the
> end it does not matter because cold fusion has died
> with the cancellation of the ACS meeting.
>
> Why swea
>From Frank
> Lane is aware of the error and is fixing the video.
>
> He wants to do it right.
That's encouraging news.
> I don't care what any one thinks about my theory. I have been excluded, put
> down,
> and universally rejected for 20 years. I have other things to do now and
> have not be
>From Frank,
> I like it. It is good.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8Q1lYRrCA
>
> Frank Znidarsic
I viewed the video. I know I'll need to view it several more times.
Despite my initial concerns I continue to agree with you that the
narrator appears to have done a pretty good job of transl
>From Abd:
> I want to throttle Charter.
> Instead of throttling them, how about sending them what they want?
> An example of a mail that bounced, as received by your google account.
> You should sent complete headers. If you need a vortex mail with complete
> headers, ask, one of us will send yo
I'm still forced to post from my Google account because the Eskimo
server continues to reject my charter.net email.
Hi Frank, I can't help but comment.
> Yes anybody can look at it. I will send you my ACS paper if
> you write to me. Lane put it up on a file share on his page.
> I was surprised
All systems back to normal.
The completes the testing of the orionworks broadcasting system
through charter.net. If this had been a real emergency you would have
been instructed to link to an appropriate website for further
instructions.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Jo
Anyone care to critique the following STORN/ORBO analysis assembled by
a blogger named "quantumdarkness19" who seems to be asking a simple
but straightforward question:
See:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=2642739
"quantumdarkness19" asks at the top of his web site:
> I would like for
>From Jed:
> This project was started many years ago by Nicholas Negroponte of MIT. The
> goal is to give a laptop to every Third World child. That is, a laptop the
> child can keep as personal property, and take home. See:
>
> http://laptop.org/en/
...
> Many years ago Bill Gates said that Thir
I've noticed occasional komments of the snarky kind (besides my own or
Jed's). Such as:
>From Harry Veeder:
> play video games.
And
> I don't care what people want beyond what they need and
> deserve to get.
>From Nick Palmer:
> factory ships to Hoover up all the fish and drive them
> to the br
>From Terry:
>> From Jones Beene
>> Do you know offhand how asymmetrical the two forces can ultimately be (as
>> a rough percentage) ?
>
> Depends on the geometry and materials. 2 in x 2 in x 0.5 in thick N45
> separated by 0.2 in yields 93 lbs pull and 55.5 lbs repulsion:
> http://www.magnetsale
Terry sez:
> I have always loved Roger Penrose's theories:
> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/44388
> This one seems so very gnostic.
Interesting article. Thanks Terry.
...
Regarding one of the complaints:
> "[Julian Barbour] says there are many disputable aspects to the theory,
> inc
Abd sez,
(taken out of context)
...
> I'd do more research if I had the time. ...
Sorry Abd,
Couldn't resist.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
When I lived on the island of Guam back in the mid 1960s I experienced
the ravages of two major typhoons. Guam, is located in the tropical
zone. The ecology is that of a jungle. When typhoons rip through
islands like Guam the power of the 100-200 mph wind literally rip away
all the leaves attached
>From Frank
> This is the best piece of work that I have ever seen. Lane put my equation
> to music and did a job way beyond my expectations. He then went on to
> extend the model to muon hydrogen. I am getting requests from all over the
> world because of this. Gary Robertson of the Internat
Terry sez:
> If gravity propagated at the speed of light, the earth would not orbit
> the true position of the sun but where it was 930/1.86 = 500 seconds
> ago. And if the sun winked out of existence, the earth would wait
> 8-1/3 minutes before flinging off on a tangent.
>
> Does science support
Hi Frank,
Thanks for your commentary. ... of course I have more questions.
I don't consider myself a card carrying hydrino believer. Maybe the
little buggers exist... maybe not. I dunno. Meanwhile, there is
confirmed consensus that muons DO exist - particularly muoniums -
where a positive muon pa
Jones sez:
Dear Dr. Z, ...
[snip]
Just a personal observation...
I do not feel qualified to pass judgment, either yea or nay, on Dr.
Z's work. I only hope that Frank is permitted a fair shake at the
dinner table. It would appear that Seattle Truth (aka: Lane?) may be
helping Frank finally get a
>From Jones
...
> My apologies if this does not constitute arrogance, as it may only have been
> said out of frustration. After all, it must be very frustrating to speak to
> physicists
> about a speed of sound in the nucleus and wonder why you are getting a cold
> shoulder ...
On this point I
Fran sez:
> · Humbled by chidrens mouthwash! I couldn't get the
> mouthwash to pour into my cup - a tube and seal in the
> container kept the liquid trapped every time I tried to pout it!
> unintentionally I squeezed the plastic bottle while picking it
> up and saw the liquid start to fill
Stephen sez:
> I like this quote from the article. It's /almost/ a blanket condemnation
> of "super-big-ticket" science as a way to make reasonable progress
> toward any goal which involves more than the most well-understood
> engineering solutions:
>
>> While larger reactors typically plan all th
Stephen sez:
> SpaceX has successfully orbited, deorbited, and retrieved a space
> capsule (yesterday, 8 Dec 2010):
>
> http://www.spacex.com/updates.php
>
> No astronauts on board -- not yet, anyway.
>
> They're working hand in hand with NASA so the "private" part of the
> "private industry" thin
OrionWorks sez:
...
> Guess it comes down to whether prospective passengers accept the fact
> that they will likely be riding candle sticks assembled by the "lowest
> bidder."
Actually, I suspect that's how many government contracts operate as
well, so what the hey!
Regards
Steven Vincent Johns
A recent google alert I have keyed to "Blacklight Power" brought me
the following link:
From:
http://www.bisnow.com/res.php?p=370
Excerpt:
Chip Akridge, a developer best known for his Chinatown developments
and passion for the National Mall, is investing in a small New Jersey
technology company
>From Jones,
...
> I will quote the blogger on the recent announcements, even though I have not
> taken the time to check on the authenticity; and many blogs are notoriously
> slanted, so this might not be accurate.
>
> "This new announcement barely mentions Mills' personal friend, Peter
> Jansso
Lane sez:
> I didn't say "money problems"... I meant problems with producing overunity.
Some follow-up thoughts, presented in badly written pidgin rap-speak.
(My apologies.)
We argue the proton's radius
The length does seem
A tiny tad tedious
Frank measures hydrogen
Scrutinized like a pathogen
Jed sez:
...
> Whether machines will actually someday become sentient remains to be seen. I
> do not know of any reason to think they will not achieve this, but there's
> no telling how much longer it will take or what it will require.
...when they develop a sense of humor
Actually, by that cri
Despite some occasionally well-justified skepticism, rumors are
beginning to spread that BLP will debut a public demo in 2011.
See:
http://tommytoy.typepad.com/tommy-toy-pbt-consultin/2010/11/blacklight-power-is-back-in-the-news-says-it-can-generate-electricity-for-25-a-kilowatt-a-public-dem.html
Jed recently brought up some interesting issues related to how will a
modern society manage to "spread-the-wealth" equitably when presumably
robots perform most of the labor.
I think the author Jed refers to is probably spot-on when he brings up
the rather unsettling prediction that a free market
Least everyone forget, I deliberately created a different OT subject
thread so that Jed's equally interesting commentary (in regards to
advancing robotics rendering human labor obsolete) would not get
hijacked by another topic that I hoped might be of interest to a few
Vorts. I was interesting in h
Terry sez:
> There go the prisons and workhouses. It's gonna ruin "A Christmas Carol".
Bah! Humbug! No it won't!
Go ahead and play the role of Ebenezer in your local theatre group.
Keep in mind: If your group (being sellers) perform a recognized
service (a product) for the benefit of the local
>From Robin:
...
>>When a customer purchases any kind of product (physical and/or
>>virtual) from a seller, the seller automatically receives a fixed
>>amount of credits that are automatically deposited into his personal
>>credit bank account. Meanwhile, the customer who purchased the product
>>G
(This is a resend. I think Vortex got confused with my first attempt
to send this . Sorry for any duplicates)
* * * *
Under the current fixed monetary system, governments TAX citizens by
taking little slices of the pie – and occasionally BIG slices. At the
end of the year most of us end up fillin
(This is also a resend. I think vortex got confused the first time I
attempted to send this post. My apologies for duplicates.)
* * * *
As previously brought up in Version One: ...how can we make these
hefty taxation percentages appear to be less painful to swallow?
Under the VERSION ONE scenari
Someone at another group named Dana asked me a relevant question in
regards to what kind of a unpleasant bureaucracy might spring up under
the highly automated Virtual Currency system. She was concerned about
purchasing clothing items, particularly how CC might go about
determining & managing ESSEN
Harry,
> I scanned and uploaded this document to scribd.com
> It was written in the late seventies so the statistics are
> dated but the subject matter is still relevant given the
> current discussion about values, economics and the
> endless discussions about energy on vortex ;-)
>
>
>From Jed:
> I tried some methods of OCRing this document, but the text is too small. The
> errors make the results unreadable.
>
> There is no point to uploading this kind of document. It is a darn shame.
> http://www.scribd.com/full/46090006?access_key=key-gsc2g9c2bkbszd52bum
If the physical s
Regarding:
> http://www.scribd.com/full/46090006?access_key=key-gsc2g9c2bkbszd52bum
>>The subject material does seem extremely relevant. I would like to
>>read the document. Unfortunately the scanning resolution, as placed
>>out at scribd.com, is inadequate for reading purposes.
>
> If you use fi
>From Harry,
> Jed and Steven,
>
> Sorry about that.
> Did you try the zoom feature at the bottom of the web page?
>
Wow! That actually works!
The zoom power is somewhat limited. Nevertheless it increases both the
size the resolution quality just enough so that it is no longer a
chore to guess a
>From Robin:
>>Unfortunately, this will not work. The "text" on individual pages are
>>actually rasterized graphic images. None of the "text" is represented
>>in vectored font format, and therefore will not scale up.
> [snip]
> It works fine when I do it.
...when you use "Ctrl-+"? in this circum
>http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338
Interesting speculation.
What is the atomic number belonging to a "Hypole". Is it stable? 1? If
it is 1, how and why would such an atomic species be considered
different than Mills' hydrino?
Robin, what's an "IC electron"?
Regards
Steven Vincent
Reading the blog, I gaather a "hypole" can also be called "virtual
neutron" in the Hydrogen Nickel system.
I wonder how such a species might be different from muons.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>From Terry,
> From Clanzer's site:
>
> http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?774-STEORN-update-Phil
>
>
Excerpt:
> Unfortunately we were unable to replicate Over Unity (OU). Using Steorn’s
> measurement technique we did get results that appeared to demonstrate OU.
> However, we cannot agr
>From Mauro:
> We've have talked in the past about entanglement understood as an
> hyperdimensional connection.
>
> According to this paper on "Efimov states", "Topologist Predicts New Form
> of Matter" (http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26144/)
>
> "The deep and unworldly link between pa
>From Jed,
...
> If this is true, and the mass media believes it, it may well be the biggest
> sensation in cold fusion since 1989.
>
> To put it another way, if this is true, I guess it is Game Over and We Won.
> I have difficulty taking that possibility seriously. It could happen though.
> Ther
Jed sez:
...
> I was thinking for a moment that Italy is not just 8 hours ahead of us, it
> is 2 days ahead. If they develop this technology -- and we don't -- they can
> set their clocks 50 years ahead of us.
IOW, reports of the fall of the Roman Empire have been greatly exaggerated.
Regards
S
>From Jones,
> Underwhelming, so far. One detail skeptics will likely hit on is seen in the
> Google translation
>
> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/01/bolognia-14111-cronaca-test-fusione_14.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522focardi%2522%26start%3D2
Not sure if the following tidbit has already been posted here or not,
but it seemed relevant considering some of the controversy surrounding
Rossi.
See:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/15/rossi-discovery-what-to-say/#comment-67
*
In addition to Jed's recent, and highly appreciated, report on the
"Energy Catalyzer), I noticed that one of my latest Google news feeds
keyed to "Blacklight Power" directed me to the pesn.com "Pure Energy
Systems" (PesWiki) web site where a verbose (and HIGHLY optimistic and
probably unrealistic)
Late in December of last year I sent an inquiry to the officially
recognized Society for Classical Physics Yahoo group. I asked Dr.
Mills if BLP was planning on assembling kind of a demonstration since
certain news feeds I'd received earlier in the month seemed to imply
that something would be demo
As best as I can tell, Wikipedia's entry on Cold Fusion has remained
blissfully unaware of the recent weekend events in Italy.
I wonder if Mr. Lomax might like to comment.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>From Horace,
> Many of you I am sure fondly remember the many fun postings here from the
> "Dime Box Saloon" by Richard C Macaulay. I was surprised recently to find
> this obituary for him:
>
> http://obit.memorialoakschapel.com/obitdisplay.html?task=Print&id=757483
>
> He died Feb. 19, 2010.
>
Speaking of another old warrior, we have not heard from Mike Carrell
in a spell. Actually, for quite some time now. Considering recent
events I would have expected something akin to a rebuttal from Mike,
particularly in regards to his position, (or defense), of BLP. Mike is
up there in years. Sever
>From Jed:
...
> Rossi said that removing the AC heat completely is dangerous. That give me
> the willies. If the external electricity cuts off, will the machine
> overheat? Or if it is built in a self sustaining device and the generator
> fails, will it overheat or go out of control? It would be
works
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:26 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> Late in December of last year I sent an inquiry to the officially
> recognized Society for Classical Physics Yahoo group. I asked Dr.
> Mills if BLP was planning on assembling kind of a demonstration since
Hi Mauro,
I'm glad your follow-up on Miles Mathis was not lost because of the
recent Italian Brouhaha.
Your initial introduction to Mathis to the Vort Collective got my
attention. I started reading his papers. The article that has
interested me the most was the one in regards to: "Explaining the
See:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/message/866
> We are working on an electrical demonstration for 2011. As reported
> we have and continue to have experts independently run the systems
> with full disclosure of the chemistry and full characterization of
> the reac
Playing devil's advocate in situations like this serve a useful
purpose. Honoring our skeptical bones hopefully help keep our feet
firmly planted on the ground, particularly when our wings would love
to start flapping right now! ...to soar into the stratosphere is
everyone's dream.
Nevertheless,
See:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/italian-scientists-claim-dubious-cold-fusion-breakthrough
http://tinyurl.com/4c768rx
After casting dispersions they had the following to say:
> But the duo does have something going for them in
> the fact that they’ve demonstrated their device
Here's a handy-dandy "Table of Nuclides"
http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>From Jed:
> WARNING TO ALL OUR READERS: THE REPORT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
> BOLOGNA WILL BE DELIVERED MONDAY , JAN 24, ANYTIME.
> YOU WILL FIND IT ON THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS AND WE
> ALREADY GIVE TO EVERYBODY TO REPRODUCE IT EVERYWHERE, FOR
> ANY PURPOSE, FREE.
> WARM REGARDS,
> THE BOARD OF
>From Harry,
> Article uses Robert Park as an authority on the subject.
>
> http://news.discovery.com/tech/cold-fusion-claims-resurface.html
As predicted by Mr. Rothwell, it would appear that the majority of
popular news organizations willing to stick their necks out and file a
brief report on th
Jed sez:
...
> We have about 1,000 readers a week normally. I do not know how many are
> repeat visitors. Word is getting out, gradually, but the population of the
> world is large, and people like Robert Park have access to the mass media,
> which reaches a far larger audience than LENR-CANR.org
About an hour ago I sed:
> Shouldn't we have expected commentary from the doctor [Dr. Park] by now?
> I wonder what's going on in that department. Does he have a cold or something?
Well, the doctor has finally spoken
http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/index.html
... and he has decided not to mentio
>From Mark Iverson:
> Good or bad, the genie is out of the bottle and there's
> no way anyone can stuff it back in... I sincerely hope,
> pray, that the human species has matured enough to accept
> the responsibility that comes with this kind of discovery.
I agree, Mark.
Potential change of th
Terry sez:
> Personally, I hope that 2012 will usher in a new sun. Not a supernova
> of Betelgeuse; but, a slow, cold fusion which will render the
> petrodollar obsolete. May the end of the Mayan calender on the winter
> solstice be the day that megawatt H-Ni steam engine goes online.
In which
Jones sez:
...
> … maybe there should be martinis all around – which drink – BTW could be
> called the rossi … if you want to get into a trivia contest Bottom’s up
> ! and put it all on Park’s tab.
Regarding the honorable Dr. Park:
Latest weekly issue, Friday, January 21, 2011: "What's New"
>From Jed:
> I uploaded a version of the report with some corrections to the English
> grammar and spelling, here:
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LeviGreportonhe.pdf
>
> I have not cleared it with them yet, but I'm sure it is okay. It is night
> there.
Is this "the" report we've been waiting for?
Wait a minute:
My eyeballs scanned the following paragraph:
Page 6:
Conclusions
The amount of power and energy produce during both tests is indeed
impressive and, TOGETHER WITH THE SELF SUSTAINING STATE REACH DURING
[caps mine] [TEST 1] could be an indication that the system is working
as a new
My eyeballs then scanned the following paragraph:
On page 4:
---
Before ending [Test 1] all the power was reduced and then switched off
from the resistors and also the hydrogen supply was closed. No
pressure decrease was noted in the H2 bottle. EVEN IN THIS CONDITIONS
THE SYSTEM KEPT RUN
>From Mark
> Now sing along with me... from that ol' folk song...
> "Where have all the neutrons gone..."
I did start singing. ;-)
'> ...perhaps into heavy fermions? ;-)
>
> This from the comment section of the Knol page on CF...
>
> Consider "heavy fermion" superconductors
> The August 2009 is
>From Jed:
> See:
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Cold-fusion-turns-hot-city-to-host-meet-/articleshow/7357005.cms
Excerpt:
> According to Dr M Srinivasan, chairman of the organizing
> committee, "the conference will deal with the recent
> breakthrough in cold fusion theory e
Jed sez:
...
> See? This is an example of wild guessing and unfounded speculation. This is
> what I was complaining about before, in the thread, "Your suspicion is not
> proof there is a problem." BUT, it would only be a problem if I were to make
> this back-of-the-envelope calculation, then jump
>From Bill:
>> and he has also related to me that on more than one occasion, the 'firing'
>> of the Z-pinch machine has resulted in anomalous energy that could not be
>> explained, and instruments all seemed to be working properly... don't think
>> they ever tracked it down since they have deadlin
Does anyone recall if the subtitle: "Nuclear experiments blog" was
there all along, or is it a recent addition. I don't remember.
Actually, I don't care either way.
Actually, I kinda hope it is a recent addition. From my POV it would
suggest that perhaps Rossi does actually give a hoot what peopl
http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/01/28/41688958.html
Excerpt:
[sed: president of the Kurchatov Institute and Academician at the
Russian Academy of Sciences]
> There is not a single study indicating that cold fusion
> is essentially impossible. There is a notion called muonic
> catalysis, in the cours
I think it would behoove us to acquire some familiarity with this
Greek based company called: DEFKALION Energy Group. My initial Google
searches haven't brought up anything of significance, though my
searches are still preliminary.
The email address for making inquiries is, "stsalikog...@gmail.com
Another Friday has come around. I wunder if the honorable Dr. Park
will continue his distinctive silence on the Rossi-Focardi matter in
his "What's New" column. Dr. Park has GOT to be aware of it.
Inquiring minds what to know.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orion
>From Peter:
> too small a subject for such a Great, Omniscient, Man
Not likely. ;-)
In all seriousness, Dr. Park's silence strikes me as unusual.
The following is pure speculation on my part, so take it FWIW. With
that disclaimer in place - lemme say this about that...
As Dirty Harry once sai
>From Mr. Lawrence:
...
> (The only possible spoke in the wheel at this point would be if it's not for
> real. That, of course, would be an insurmountable problem.)
LOL
Very deadpan of you, Mr. Lawrence. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Good detective work, Jed.
I hope they hook it up to a generator.
In the fickle PR world, it seems to me that the device generating 1
megawatts of electricity would be the most convincing demo of all,
especially if it can be clearly proved that there cannot possibly
exist the equivalent of a one M
From: S. Krivit's NET Installment #31
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/3616ideologies.shtml
16. Cold Fusion Versus LENR: Competing Ideologies
Paragraph excerpt:
> In January 2010, Melich and his second wife, Marianne Macy,
> who writes for Infinite Energy magazine, began producing
> d
Please keep in mind that the following quotes have been extracted from
individuals whose opinions may have changed (or moderated) in subtle
ways later on in the on-going thread.
>From Mr. Lawrence:
>> I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that Levi
>> doesn't believe it's for real, no matter what
>
>From Mark Iverson:
...
> Just assume for one second that the demo was real, and
> that you are Rossi and have been pouring in your financial
> livelihood into making those first 100 reactors... Would
> you publish the location for all the world to see...
> Hell NO!!! That would be the most idio
Much of the on-going speculation, of which I, too, am guilty of having
propagated, reminds me of a poignant and all-too-brief scene I recall
from the recent apocalyptic film titled, "2012", - which by the way
was a really awful film. 100% special effects - 0% plot.
Out in the wild snow-capped moun
>From Jed:
> From a PDF file just received:
...
> 12.30 F . C elani
> M.Melich
> : Brief Report on Rossi-Focardi 10 KW Demo
> : Additional Remarks on Rossi-Focardi Experiment
For me this truly begs a nagging question. Of what importance, if any,
could actually be discussed at such a meeting con
>From Jed:
Some follow-up comments.
>> For me this truly begs a nagging question. Of what importance,
>> if any, could actually be discussed at such a meeting
>> conducted by Melich.
>
> A great deal. Melich has a lot of technical info on this.
> He has read the papers published by Rossi and unde
Mr Lawrence sez:
> What's a BoD?
In this case: Board of Directors
But right now, I could use a doughnut.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
It would seem advantageous to all participating ICCF-16 participants
to track down a legitimate witness to the December/January Italian
demonstration, hopefully a physics professor. Make an offer he can't
refuse. Personally fly him to ICCF-16, promise to pay his hotel room,
and all his meals... SPA
From: The Hindu -> Science and Technology section
"Call for inter-disciplinary studies in ‘cold fusion'"
See:
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/article1165494.ece
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
SUBJECT: Group seeks to discredit Rossi
>From Abd:
...
> But I will note a generic way to fake Rossi's
> work, others have proposed other possibilities,
> and, if it's fake, the truth might even be a
> hybrid. I have no doubt but that it could be
> done, that even more convincing demonstrations
Let me second and third some of the counter claims raised about the
steam temperature issue.
>From Mr. Lawrence,
...
> If the water flow rate is fixed, and the power level is allowed
> to vary, then, if steam is coming out, its temperature will vary,
> and will be determined at any moment by how
>From Mr. Lawrence:
...
> You are making an unconscious assumption here, which is that
> water is being added just exactly fast enough to replenish
> the water which is boiled away.
>
> That's not what's happening! The water is being added at
> a constant rate, with no feedback from the reactor!
Terry sez:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647
>
> Robots to get their own internet
> By Mark Ward
> Technology correspondent, BBC News
>
> European scientists have embarked on a project to let robots share and
> store what they discover about the world.
>
> Called RoboEarth it will be
>From Jones
...
> This field cannot be simplified into an either/or situation.
>
> Ockham has no place in this field – LENR it is inherently
> complex.
>
> Krivit and his sponsors are half-right (but half-wrong),
> as is anyone who says that LENR is pure fusion and nothing
> else.
>
> There are c
Terry Sez:
> Probably not since you sent the unsubscribe message to Vortex-l.
>
> You must send it to vortex-l-request for it to work.
I immediately realized my mistake and resubmitted it to "
vortex-l-request". But of course nobody will see that! I just look
dumb! So, what else is new. ;-)
I th
Yes, Mr. Lawrence,
Indeed, this is very on-topic.
The news is spreading like wildfire through out the internet.
I think you and Jones have pretty much nailed the pertinent issues.
We stand here wondering if Rossi and/or Mills will put out in short
order. Or maybe someone else will suddenly be f
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