Software?

Hi guys, We are running a media training school for a non-profit organisation in the city. We have about 7 Macintoshes of various G3 types that we are using. We will be giving a basic orientation to the students for two two hour sessions on Photoshop 6.0 and a couple of days on PageMaker 6.5

Software

I'm considering buying: Photoshop Elements 2 Keynote and maybe First Edge MYOB or Quicken for mac Firstly where can I get these? Do they run in os x? Where can I buy them at Education/academic prices? -- Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Marketing software

I am looking for software to extend an existing website to offer online purchase of items, the secure side will be taken care of by access to a bank portal. Has anyone any experience or advice on this. From first principles I would start with an Excel spreadsheet but that does not exactly

unwanted software

HelloRonni I have got rid of mac keeper now Norton rears it's head I found referenced in keychain etc' but listed as semantic doI give this the same treatment, IO assume so but did not want to remove without advice. Regards Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -

Redundant Software

I have the following Software no longer required for sale: Filmaker Pro 6 Pro 7 upgrade Pro 8 upgrade Pro 8.5 upgrade Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Standard Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Standard Adobe Creative Suite 4 Design Premium Toast 7

Accounting software

For years I have used eRecord, the ATO's free accounting package. It is no longer supported and is a bit creaky even with Leopard. I am looking for an alternative, looking forward to Snow Leopard and Lion. My requirements are simple. Cash Book only covering sales, expenditures and GST. Ot

ripping software

Hi all i have lost some of my music from my last died hard drive (ALWAYS backup!!!). but i have some of it on my ipod 3rd gen and ipad1. is there any softwares (free or paid) out there where i can rip the music off from ipod/ipad and have them in my music folder again? i know you can put m

Virus software?!?

Hi all, my new place of work insists I can only use their network if I install virus software which has proxy settings. I must admit that I am very reluctant to install virus software on my Mac due to the problems they create rather then solve, as well as the fact that the OSX has ample built

Genealogy software

I have been looking at two genealogy programs for Mac - Reunion and MacFamily. Both are about the same price. Does anyone have any experience with these or similar programs and could make a recommendation? If so I would appreciate your comments. Lloyd OS 10.6.4 -- The WA Macintosh User Gr

Educational software

skills and I am struggling to find much free educational software for his computer. Does anyone on the list have any leads for finding free educational games/programs? TIA Kevin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.sh

software updates

When installing Apple software updates it is often necessary to restart the computer. This becomes irksome if a separate restart is required for each of many updates. Is it possible to install a number of updates using only one restart? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List

software updates

Thanks for your advice Daniel. I was particularly thinking about manually downloaded updates which I then install on several computers. Bob At 9:46 PM 13/8/09, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 13/8/09 9:10 PM, "Bob Jackson" wrote: When installing Apple software updates it is often ne

Morphing software

Hi, I'm looking for recommendations for morphing software, preferrably something that will export to movie format. I have MorphX, but find it to be a bit flakey and wondered if anyone used software that they really liked . Cheers, Kaye -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: [

Old software

I have a collection of old software complete with manuals and still in their original packaging that I will be dumping in the immediate future. Anyone who would like any or all of it for free give me a call. FileMaker Pro (Several Versions Inc OS X) MacProject Pro MacDraw & MacDraw

POS Software

Hi Guys, I am looking for some account software that is easy to use like Checkout (www.checkoutapp.com) but has links into a website. What we want to do is have a webstore that is linked directly into our POS system so that we only have to manage stock in one location, keeps amounts up to date

free software

hi Wamuggers checkout this: http://www.opensourcemac.org/ interesting collection, nicley commented, ready for download (or link for download) or a collection of shareware/commercial progs http://www.pure-mac.com/ merry x-mas / happy new year to allJames SAD Technic Video Productions,

Mariner software

I am looking at Mariner Write as an alternative to Word. Has anyone use the Mariner software? What were/are the good and not so good experiences? Merv -- "Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see." -- The WA Macintosh User Gro

update software

Hi all is anyone having problems with there update software. I find mine keeps timing out.Is it me or Apple automatic software server down. I have install instead stand installer . Bart -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailingl

cheap software?

I was sent this link to a site selling cheap software. Does anyone have any experience of this company? Is there a catch? http://saunetod.com Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.sh

kitchendesign software

I'm looking for kitchendesign for mac, 2-d and if possible 3-d view , if affordable cuttinglists and pricing ,later on link to cnc machines( if possible). Is there someone using it or knows an cabinetmaker using it? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -

Publishing software

Hi Darrel I use Adobe InDesign for our publishing work. Clients prepare their text input in Word and provide the photos/images separately. I bring the text and images together and do the layout using Indesign and eventually save the finished product as a PDF file which goes to the printer

Free Software

The following software is gathering dust and I would like to give it free to a Mac user senior citizen - *Mac OSX 10.2 (Jaguar) *Toast 5 (Titanium) *DiskWarrior 2.1 I live in Leeming. Bob

Software Update

Hi all Recently I ran Software Update to see if the latest security update was available. It wasnt. Taking someones advice, I went to the apple site to download and install it. It installed successfully and later tested ok. However at the end of the install, Software Update launched and

OCR Software

I recently came on the OCR software ReadIris 9 for OSX. For anyone looking to convert documents into editable text etc I can only describe it as brilliant. At 89Euros it is not all that cheap, however. Severin Crisp

Statistical software

Hi, Can anyone recommend any statistical software for use in bio-statistics and public health. I am running an OS9 machine and for some strange reason :) my uni doesn't think about the hoards of Apple users when setting software for courses. Thankyou for all your help. Smiles Aurora -- &

osx software

Anybody got a suggestion for genealogy software for mac osx? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OCR software

I realise that probably few members need OCR software but it is something I find a more or less regular need for. I would like to sing the praises of ReadIris Pro which is user friendly, fast and most importantly, very accurate. I don't think it is bundled with scanners but if you

backup software

Hi can anyone recommend a cheap ( read free) backup system, I just want to copy users home files to a firewire disk automatically ( say twice a week) for DR purposes. I don't need apps or Os backup up, but there seems to be a myriad of programs on places like versiontracker, how does one choose? H

Scanner software.

Hi folks. Hope you had a great Christmas. I am faced with a self-imposed task of scanning hundreds of old family photos. Black and white and colour. I have a Epson CX3100 multi-function scanner/printer and the software that comes with it. A reasonable job but I am taking 10 minutes to scan and

online software

Hi wamuggers I recently received an email a few times directing me to the website below for savings on software I find hard to believe. Anyone know about this site and its validity? The site looks ok but Im a bit suss. http://buyresponsibly.net/index.php regards to all chris

club software

Hello, This is a little off topic but I am after some advice on club management software. I would like a site which provides for a club webpage, membership, and blog/chat facilities. It does not have to be a free site. If anyone has thoughts on this please let me know. Thanks, Ian

Psychic Software

Hi all, When I use my digital camera, I often switch between portrait and landscape orientation - to suit the subject/scene. When I transfer the images I generally use a card reader & just drag the images to the relevant pictures folder. Now when I browse through the pictures in the finder, Previ

older software

I have just acquired a heap of educational software which runs on OS6 or 7. If anyone wants the disks, please contact me off list. Kev 94183869

Genealogy software

Hi Everyone, Can anyone tell me where to find some good software to record family history etc? Free would be nice, but I imagine I'll have to pay for it. Has anyone used MacFamilyTree? Cheers, Ross Bryant

Software Update

Hi Muggers, Problem: I cannot connect to Software Update, the error message returns: 'A networking error has occurred: timed out (-1001). Make sure you can connect to the Internet and try again.' Before you ask yes I can connect to the Internet (hence the email) and network d

Software Update

Hi Muggers, Problem: I cannot connect to Software Update, the error message returns: 'A networking error has occurred: timed out (-1001). Make sure you can connect to the Internet and try again.' Before you ask yes I can connect to the Internet (hence the email) and network d

finance software

What's a recommendation for finance software? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accounting software

.com/readerreports/applications/topic4468.html> I've sent an enquiry to MoneyWorks. In the meantime, does anyone know of any software that will do some, if not all, of what I want to be able to do on my PowerBook? Thank you, Michael Hawkins.

accounting software

Firstly software has to have help files that don't assume a degree in accountancy! Needs to be able to: 1) Import from my bank (my copy of MYOB First edge (V1) does not recognise the Qif files from my bank). 2) Be able to put in the "narrative"/other info from my bank ie

CRM Software

Hi Guys, I'm looking for a CRM system for Mac (obviously!) that is networkable for multiple users from a server and able to perform all of my standard business transactions in. I.e.: General Ledger, Customer Details and Relationships, Debtors, Creditors, Invoicing, etc. etc. Basically I would li

Free software

I am having a clean up and have the following software. 1. Personal Press - a reasonable desktop publishing package. 2. Adobe Pagemill 2 - web page design. Original floppies and manual. Free to a good home! Peter Bull -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FS: Software

Time to clean out the shelves again. Appleworks 6 (full boxed version) This can be upgraded to the latest versions for both Classic and OS X $ 90 SuSE Linux 7.1 for PowerPC Full boxed installation including 6 CDs, manuals etc. $ 70 Norton Utilities v. 5 (full boxed version) For < OS 9 PPC syste

Software Update

Hi Whenever I run Apple Software Update I get a message saying "...Software Update preferences file is locked... select Get Info and unlock file." However, when I follow these instructions the the file is already unlocked any ideas? Also something that may be related. If

Software Update

When starting Software Update I am getting the message "Software Update cannot run". A custom remove and reinstall makes no difference and all three components (Control Panel and two Extensions) are present and apparently load at startup. Turning off virus autoprotect and trashin

Software Update

Hi all, I'm using OSX 10.1.3 on my hard disk and an attached firewire external drive. To minimise the number of downloads I prefer manually downloading software updates from sites to my desktop. On occasion the needed download is only available via Software Update under System Prefer

Download Software

Hi I want to be able to schedule software to download during the night. Is there anyway to do this in OSX.1.4? If not, is there software available that will do this? Regards Simon Collins [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Software Update

I am getting the message "Software Update is not able to run" This comes up both with and without an open internet connection and Software Update Control Panel, Engine and Scheduler are all marked on in Extensions Manager. This with OS9.2.1 on a graphite G4/400. I am sure there i

UPS Software

I recall a short while back there was a thread on UPS software. This article on Macintouch (www.macintouch.com) might be of some interest APC released version 1.2 of its PowerChute Personal Edition (http://159.215.19.5/currents1.nsf/headlines/5BAK54RD?OpenDocument) for Mac OS X, which provides

Genealogy software

Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a good Genealogy Application (Family Tree stuff) that is native to OSX ? I already have some very old software that I want to replace. I use an iMac 266 with OSX 10.1.5 PS: Has anyone heard how Virex is coming along as native OSX ? -- Regards, Stephen Chape

PhotoGrade Software

Does anyone have or is familar with Apple PhotoGrade Software. I am stuck with some ink cartridges that will only run with this software on a Stylewriter 2500. Many thanks, Rick.

bibliography software

Hi everyone Has anyone ideas/experience in using an efficient and not-so-expensive bibliography software package for the mac? I have looked at one called Endnote (a 30 day demo) which is very good but with a price tag around A $470!! Another is Bookends. This is slightly cheaper and have yet

VPN Software

I am am looking at setting up a VPN before I make my system wireless. What software is out there / can people recommend? I don't need disk encryption etc, just the network traffic. Something that will work cross platform (PC / Mac) will also be essential. (OS 9 / Win2K / WXP and soon

Antivirus Software

Hi all, I need to buy a some antivirus software for a couple of 9.x machines and possibly for a 10.2 one. Which is the best product to buy? Ta, Andrew

Fax Software

I'm running OSX with Office for same. I need to get some fax software - just basic stuff that will allow me to send Word documents. I know there is faxst in OS9, but I can't get it to work. Suggestions for an application that is simple and not going to cost arms and legs. Adrian Colle

Re: Software

On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 07:04 PM, Sojourn wrote: > I'm considering buying: > Photoshop Elements 2 > Keynote > and maybe > First Edge MYOB or > Quicken for mac > Firstly where can I get these? Do they run in os x? > Where can I buy them at Education/academic prices? Hi Rosemary, Photoshop

Weather software

I found a really good program for weather forecasting. It's called Meteorologist and it's free. It's really handy for me because I do arial photography with a small helium blimp and this is hard to do on windy days. Really handy app, perhaps Peter would like to look at this and maybe demo it on

Music Software

r OS X. Can someone please tell me if there is a corresponding application for the Mac OS X, and where can it be purchased from? Any experience with the software? My relative went to the Mt Hawthorn shop today, but was not able to get an answer, and I believe that this will decide whether she will

Re: Drawing software

Inventor software, enabling customers to choose the modeling approach that is right for the task at hand. AVAILABILITY • The Apple OS X compatible version of the technology preview expires on January 1, 2013. Cheers, Ronni On 26/07/2012, at 11:37 AM, Bill Parker wrote: > Since stepp

Re: Drawing software

> download it for free until the end of the year. > > Inventor Fusion Technology Preview 2013 is fully interoperable with AutoCAD > and Autodesk Inventor software, enabling customers to choose the modeling > approach that is right for the task at hand. > > AVAILABILITY &g

Re: Drawing software

-- but I have not really used it other than a cursory sketch or two. Lastly, if you want to be a trail blazer, you could fork out $50 for Sketch 2 (Mac App Store). I have not tired it but have it on my list of software to investigate when the need arises. It gets very good reviews. Regards, Carlo

Re: Drawing software

2 > (Mac App Store). I have not tired it but have it on my list of software to > investigate when the need arises. It gets very good reviews. > > Regards, > Carlo > > On 26/07/2012, at 12:30 , Bill Parker wrote: > >> I'd hate to get used to it and then ge

Re: Drawing software

;> or two. >> >> Lastly, if you want to be a trail blazer, you could fork out $50 for Sketch >> 2 (Mac App Store). I have not tired it but have it on my list of software to >> investigate when the need arises. It gets very good reviews. >> >> Regards, >&

Re: Drawing software

;> I have also heard good things about Skitch -- also available for free on >>> the Mac App Store -- but I have not really used it other than a cursory >>> sketch or two. >>> >>> Lastly, if you want to be a trail blazer, you could fork out $50 fo

Re: Drawing software

ketchBook Pro for $31. > >>> > >>> I have also heard good things about Skitch -- also available for free > on the Mac App Store -- but I have not really used it other than a cursory > sketch or two. > >>> > >>> Lastly, if you want to be a trail bla

Re: Drawing software

On 26/07/2012, at 3:02 PM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: > Hi Peter, > > It's quite easy to do a simple sketch with Skitch (or is that a skitch with > Sketch?), but simple is the operative word. Open up Skitch and select File > > New from the menu and one is presented with a white can

Re: Drawing software

p but for quick sketches I have >> taken to using SketchBook Express. It is free on the Mac App Store. There >> is also a paid version, SketchBook Pro for $31. >>>>> >>>>> I have also heard good things about Skitch -- also available for free >> on

Re: Marketing software

Hi Severin, What Web Design program are you using for your website? Does it have built-in support for e-commerce?; it requires the site's host to be correctly set up for this feature. Cheers, Ronni On 27/09/2012, at 2:05 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: > I am looking for software to e

Re: Marketing software

27/09/2012, at 2:05 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: > >> I am looking for software to extend an existing website to offer online >> purchase of items, the secure side will be taken care of by access to a bank >> portal. >> Has anyone any experience or advice on this. From firs

Re: Marketing software

Sev On 27/09/2012, at 2:05 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: > I am looking for software to extend an existing website to offer online > purchase of items, the secure side will be taken care of by access to a bank > portal. > Has anyone any experience or advice on this. From first princi

Re: Marketing software

gt; >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> >> On 27/09/2012, at 2:05 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: >> >>> I am looking for software to extend an existing website to offer online >>> purchase of items, the secure side will be taken care of by access to a

Re: Marketing software

i Severin, >>> >>> What Web Design program are you using for your website? >>> Does it have built-in support for e-commerce?; it requires the site's host >>> to be correctly set up for this feature. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ro

Re: Marketing software

Sev On 27/09/2012, at 3:57 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: > That was the direction I was looking in but it is a little more complicated. > We need to also do things like generating a confirmatory record to the buyer > and save details of name address etc for us. Additionally most students go > to

Re: Marketing software

Thanks, Geoff On 27/09/2012, at 4:05 PM, Geoff and Kaye wrote: > Sev > > On 27/09/2012, at 3:57 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: > >> That was the direction I was looking in but it is a little more complicated. >> We need to also do things like generating a confirmatory record to the >> buyer and s

Re: Marketing software

How far do you want to go? http://www.shopify.com/tour/sell-online Have a look, you can use an existing website. r On 27/09/2012, at 4:11 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: > Thanks, Geoff > > On 27/09/2012, at 4:05 PM, Geoff and Kaye wrote: > >> Sev >> >> On 27/09/2012, at 3:57 PM, Severin Crisp wro

MicroMat Checkmate software

Good morning muggers I have received an email from Micromat asking if I would like to upgrade from TechTool Pro 4 to their new Checkmate diagnostic software. Has anyone used this software or knows of reviews for it? Is it necessary to use for a MBPro? I havnt used TTP for at least 4 or 5 years

Re: unwanted software

Hi Bill, You don't mention what version of Norton antivirus you want to uninstall. Remove all Norton programs for Mac using the RemoveSymantecMacFiles removal utility. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > On 13 Feb 2016

Re: unwanted software

Hello Ronni Again did not read screen properly message was Norton protected the software was Zip cloud finally got rid of that too, one day I may understand all this but at 76 time is running out. Regards Bill On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: > Hi Bill, > > You don&

Anti virus software

I was told by mu server - Zettanet - that I should have antivirus software installed. What is the latest recommendation, please/ Kind regards, Jennifer Lefroy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines -

Disk and software

Ques:1 I have a verbatum hard drive 250Gb has been formatted in NTFS format can be seen on a PC but Imac can't see it with disk utilities, any clues. Ques:2 I am about to purchase a macpro how can I copy Reunion software from Imac. Imac Software 10.6.8 Intel core 2. 2Ghz 3Ghz ram Regards

updating ipod software

Hi Everyone I have an ipod touch (4th gen) that I intend using for our family get together in April for some music. Each time I link it to itunes on my MBPro, it asks me if I would like to update its software to 4.3. I would like to and have tried many times, only to find it was going

Re: Accounting software

Hello Severin I have been very happy with Moneyworks. A New Zealand company that understands Macs and Australian GST. Here is the link. www.cognito.co.nz. They have 3 different packages to suit basic to professional book keepers. Regards Greg Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email

Re: Accounting software

Severin, you should have a look at Saasu.com I first came across Saasu via Wamug (thanks Justin) and we have used it for a while. Excellent system, easy to use. Has a free trial available to try it out. Glenn Nicholas On 22 June 2011 10:13, Severin Crisp wrote: > For years I have used eRecord,

Re: Accounting software

Thanks Glenn, for a little more information please see http://emergination.com.au/saasu or type saasu perth into google (excuse the blatant plug). One of the best features added recently is automated bank feeds - you can sync your bank account securely to the system and then it makes entering

Re: Accounting software

Thanks, Greg. MoneyWorks Cashbook fills the bill admirably. Glenn, Justin, I have looked at saasu which is a very nice concept but way beyond my very simple needs. I will do the GST for this quarter from eRecord then start a fresh year with MoneyWorks. Severin Crisp On 22/06/2011, at 10:50

Re: Accounting software

Hi Severin, I have been following this thread with interest and also had a look at the many excellent suggestions for accounting software. I notice that MoneyWorks Cashbook is available through the Mac App Store at a considerable discount for $47.99. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-06-22, at 15:44

Re: Accounting software

l: 0417 053 266 On 22/06/2011, at 5:17 PM, cm wrote: Hi Severin, I have been following this thread with interest and also had a look at the many excellent suggestions for accounting software. I notice that MoneyWorks Cashbook is available through the Mac App Store at a considerable disc

Re: Accounting software

Excellent choice Severin. I have been using Moneyworks Express for personal and sporting organisations with which I was affiliated for many years. Have since passed it on to others who have found it easy to get into and use. Regards John Thompson On 22/06/2011, at 3:44 PM, Severin Crisp wrote

Re: Accounting software

manage financial information and make informed decisions. See what it can do for your business with our free online seminar. You grow. And it grows with you. MoneyWorks performs all the standard functions you would expect from accounting software—and a number that you would typically find only with

Re: Accounting software

grows with you. MoneyWorks performs all the standard functions you would expect from accounting software—and a number that you would typically find only with large corporate accounting packages. <http://seminars.apple.com/seminarsonline/aotmmoneyworks/apple/index.html?s=300 > Cheers, Ron

Re: Accounting software

>> do for your business with our free online seminar. >> >> You grow. And it grows with you. >> MoneyWorks performs all the standard functions you would expect from >> accounting software—and a number that you would typically find only with >> lar

Re: Accounting software

; can do for your business with our free online seminar. >>> >>> You grow. And it grows with you. >>> MoneyWorks performs all the standard functions you would expect from >>> accounting software—and a number that you would typically find only with >&g

Re: Accounting software

tions. >>> >>> Look beyond the ledger. >>> Expanding your business? Starting a new venture? MoneyWorks is a smart way >>> to manage financial information and make informed decisions. See what it >>> can do for your business with our free online semin

Re: Accounting software

t;>>> to manage financial information and make informed decisions. See what it >>>> can do for your business with our free online seminar. >>>> >>>> You grow. And it grows with you. >>>> MoneyWorks performs all the standard fu

Re: Accounting software

te this feature rich but easy-to-use solution >>>>> for small-to-medium organizations. >>>>> >>>>> Look beyond the ledger. >>>>> Expanding your business? Starting a new venture? MoneyWorks is a smart >>>>> way to manage

Re: Accounting software

>>>>> >>>>> Accounting and ERP on the Mac - MoneyWorks >>>>> Watch Grant Cowie demonstrate this feature rich but easy-to-use solution >>>>> for small-to-medium organizations. >>>>> >>>>> Look beyond the led

Re: Accounting software

r small-to-medium organizations. >>>>> >>>>> Look beyond the ledger. >>>>> Expanding your business? Starting a new venture? MoneyWorks is a smart >>>>> way to manage financial information and make informed decisions. See what >>>>

Re: Accounting software

gt;>> Hi Severin, >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple Seminars Online: >>>>>> >>>>>> Accounting and ERP on the Mac - MoneyWorks >>>>>> Watch Grant Cowie demonstrate this feature rich but easy-to-use solution >>&

Re: Accounting software

ccounting and ERP on the Mac - MoneyWorks >>>>>> Watch Grant Cowie demonstrate this feature rich but easy-to-use solution >>>>>> for small-to-medium organizations. >>>>>> >>>>>> Look beyond the ledger. >>>>>&g

Re: Accounting software

verin >>>>> >>>>> On 03/07/2011, at 8:46 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Severin, >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple Seminars Online: >>>>>> >>>>>> Accounting an

Re: Accounting software

with our free online seminar. You grow. And it grows with you. MoneyWorks performs all the standard functions you would expect from accounting software—and a number that you would typically find only with large corporate accounting packages. <http://seminars.apple.com/seminarsonl

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