Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 13, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Simon McLean wrote: I think it takes about 5 years development experience with WO for these kind of posts not to phase you. it's a bit like a jehovah witness: they knock at your door from time to time, predict doom, gloom and the end of existence as we know it. but

Re: WOWODC - a few pics

2009-06-13 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 13, 2009, at 2:32 PM, David Avendasora wrote: Like Christine sayed there is developers in French universities and I know more than half a dozen who are Java Client developers, most of then work for the Cocktail Consortium. They maintain about 18 applications in Java Client. So Davi

Re: WOWODC - a few pics

2009-06-13 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 13, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Aurélien Minet wrote: ozens of us Java Client developers I tell you. Dozens! We're just not loud and obnoxious like you trendy web-UI people. :-P Yes ! Like Christine sayed there is developers in French universities and I know more than half a dozen who are Ja

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Bernard Bradley
On Jun 13, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Simon McLean wrote: I think it takes about 5 years development experience with WO for these kind of posts not to phase you. I'd have to agree. I just hit the five year mark, and after attending WOWODC, the future couldn't be brighter in my opinion. I was actu

Java Client Templates and Examples (Was: Tiger on MacBook Aluminium)

2009-06-13 Thread David Avendasora
On Jun 13, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Dino Strausz wrote: On 13 Jun 2009, at 4:35 PM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Dino Strausz wrote: But I think you will find the answer is a resounding "no", followed by "why in the world would you want to do that?" Oh, I know the an

Re: [OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread Dino Strausz
On 13 Jun 2009, at 4:35 PM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Dino Strausz wrote: But I think you will find the answer is a resounding "no", followed by "why in the world would you want to do that?" Oh, I know the answer to this one! Legacy apps in Xcode still... Y

Re: [Solved] Odd cookie expiration behaviour (Safari related?)

2009-06-13 Thread Q
On 14/06/2009, at 8:16 AM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: The subtitle of this chart should be "please kill me". Well last time I sent a clot, obviously that didn't work. Obviously you should have sent cookies :) -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - q

Re: [Solved] Odd cookie expiration behaviour (Safari related?)

2009-06-13 Thread David Avendasora
On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: The subtitle of this chart should be "please kill me". Well last time I sent a clot, obviously that didn't work. Almost, though. :-P Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ig

Re: [OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread David Avendasora
On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Dino Strausz wrote: But I think you will find the answer is a resounding "no", followed by "why in the world would you want to do that?" Oh, I know the answer to this one! Legacy apps in Xcode still... You got me! Are the projects Nib-based Java Client? O

Re: WOWODC - a few pics

2009-06-13 Thread David Avendasora
On Jun 13, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Aurélien Minet wrote: David Avendasora a écrit : On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: David Avendasora, We have found the *other* JavaClient developer! :-; Wow. You can wink with your chin. Impressive! But seriously, there are dozens of us Jav

Re: WOWODC - a few pics

2009-06-13 Thread Aurélien Minet
David Avendasora a écrit : On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: David Avendasora, We have found the *other* JavaClient developer! :-; Wow. You can wink with your chin. Impressive! But seriously, there are dozens of us Java Client developers I tell you. Dozens! We're just

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Ricardo J. Parada
On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Janine Sisk wrote: Also, regarding the lack of WO stuff at WWDC this year - I mentioned this to an Apple employee who sat next to me at lunch, and he said that Apple put all their resources into WOWODC this year since that's where the most WO users are. This

Subject: Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Johnny Miller
I got inside news from a top secret web site that Apple is switching their online platforms over to ASP dot net :-p On Jun 13, 2009, at 9:09 AM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: Subject: Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects Johnny Miller Kahalawai Me

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Simon McLean
I think it takes about 5 years development experience with WO for these kind of posts not to phase you. it's a bit like a jehovah witness: they knock at your door from time to time, predict doom, gloom and the end of existence as we know it. but then a few days later it's all forgotten - like a ba

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Stephane Guyot
yllan, year over year it's the same song I can understand your problem : http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/ MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=261634423&id=261634131&s=143442 Predict the future is a very hard task, very error prone exercice : Top 20 financial institutions by market capitalizat

Re: [OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread Dino Strausz
dont get it... On 13 Jun 2009, at 2:52 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: Does anyone, here in this so kind list, knows how to install Tiger into a new MacBook Aluminum? Perhaps with/through Parallels (or VMWare)? what do you have in mind? ___ Do not p

Re: [OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread Klaus Berkling
On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Dino Strausz wrote: Does anyone, here in this so kind list, knows how to install Tiger into a new MacBook Aluminum? Perhaps with/through Parallels (or VMWare)? (not affiliated blah blah blah...) Thanks kib "The trouble with normal is it always gets worse."

Re: [OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread Dino Strausz
But I think you will find the answer is a resounding "no", followed by "why in the world would you want to do that?" Oh, I know the answer to this one! Legacy apps in Xcode still... You got me! ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They wi

Re: [Solved] Odd cookie expiration behaviour (Safari related?)

2009-06-13 Thread Mike Schrag
The subtitle of this chart should be "please kill me". ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.appl

Re: [OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread David Holt
On 13-Jun-09, at 12:14 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 13-Jun-09, at 3:01 PM, Dino Strausz wrote: Hola t...@s! Does anyone, here in this so kind list, knows how to install Tiger into a new MacBook Aluminum? Someone told me that Tiger cannot be installed in those machines which came out wi

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Mike Schrag
And that's a REALLY good thing. I always get pissed off when I upgrade Mac OS X Server, and the WO installation is also upgraded, causing my apps to break or malfunction. Separating both is really good news for me. My feeling is that anything that separates WebObjects from Apple's produc

Re: [OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread David LeBer
On 13-Jun-09, at 3:01 PM, Dino Strausz wrote: Hola t...@s! Does anyone, here in this so kind list, knows how to install Tiger into a new MacBook Aluminum? Someone told me that Tiger cannot be installed in those machines which came out with Leopard! Is this really true? I really need my

[OT] Tiger on MacBook Aluminium

2009-06-13 Thread Dino Strausz
Hola t...@s! Does anyone, here in this so kind list, knows how to install Tiger into a new MacBook Aluminum? Someone told me that Tiger cannot be installed in those machines which came out with Leopard! Is this really true? I really need my Tiger on my new machine (my Pismo died recently)

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Joe Little
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:37 AM, George Domurot wrote: > Speaking of contributing.  While we are digging into several new projects, > we would like to start adding and editing content on the wiki.  I can't seem > to find an area to create an account.  A couple folks (David/Chuck) > mentioned an ar

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Check out : http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/WOCOM Speaking of contributing. While we are digging into several new projects, we would like to start adding and editing content on the wiki. I can't seem to find an area to create an account. A couple folks (Davi

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread George Domurot
Speaking of contributing. While we are digging into several new projects, we would like to start adding and editing content on the wiki. I can't seem to find an area to create an account. A couple folks (David/Chuck) mentioned an area where this can be done. If someone would chime in on

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread David LeBer
On 13-Jun-09, at 1:17 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote: Hi! On 2009/06/13, at 05:58, Pascal Robert wrote: My assumption is this means it doesn't have the Java apps (javamonitor, wotaskd, etc) installed by default. You can still install the WO runtime, and you can always deploy to a servlet. Just

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! On 2009/06/13, at 05:58, Pascal Robert wrote: My assumption is this means it doesn't have the Java apps (javamonitor, wotaskd, etc) installed by default. You can still install the WO runtime, and you can always deploy to a servlet. Just like it was before Tiger Server. And that's a

[Solved] Odd cookie expiration behaviour (Safari related?)

2009-06-13 Thread Mark Gowdy
That did the trick, thanks: NSTimestamp oneYear = new NSTimestamp ().timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0); NSTimestamp threeMonths = new NSTimestamp ().timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(0, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0); a_rsp.addCookie(new WOCookie("key_a_" + i, "v:" + i, "/", null, oneYear, f

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Janine Sisk
On Jun 13, 2009, at 4:30 AM, David Avendasora wrote: According to the website: http://mac.topnewsdigest.com/uncategorized/conflicting-information-about-webobjects/ "Mac OS X 10.6 server no longer support WebObjects." Oooh. topnewsdigest.com. That's where I go for all my Apple-related news.

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 09-06-13 à 11:50, Mike Schrag a écrit : I knew that the WO runtime has been improved over year, and Apple uses many WO in their web applications notheless internal or external. What I concerned about the future of WO is, will Apple promote WO to public? Go to http://developer.apple.com/r

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Mike Schrag
I knew that the WO runtime has been improved over year, and Apple uses many WO in their web applications notheless internal or external. What I concerned about the future of WO is, will Apple promote WO to public? Go to http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/ check how many WO documents were

Re: WO deployment on Ubuntu

2009-06-13 Thread Joe Little
I used the linux installer posted by Pascal and others, and between that and using the java6 provided by apt, it all just worked. Perhaps its because you are trying to run things as root and you are kicking off the process directly from init (root) without a sub-shell. Instead, use appserver as pr

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Yung-Luen Lan
Hi Mke, On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: > Dave already did this, but I wanted to do a pass also. > Let me begin this by saying that I have to be very careful what I say > because I _actually know what is going on_. > It would be ridiculous for Apple to even consider replacing t

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Yung-Luen Lan
Hi Dave, On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:30 PM, David Avendasora wrote: > Hi yllan, > I haven't had my coffee yet today, so I'm feeling crabby... > On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Yung-Luen Lan wrote: >> Since Apple itself is still using WebObjects for MobileMe, iTunes >> store, AppleStore website, RADAR,

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Mike Schrag
Dave already did this, but I wanted to do a pass also. Let me begin this by saying that I have to be very careful what I say because I _actually know what is going on_. "Mac OS X 10.6 server no longer support WebObjects." WO is not on the list of technologies included by default in 10.6, as

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 09-06-13 à 06:50, Phillip Hutchings a écrit : On 13/06/2009, at 7:07 PM, Yung-Luen Lan wrote: Hi, *** WARNING: I wasn't able to be at WWDC or WOWODC this year so I'm not sure the following is correct. *** According to the website: http://mac.topnewsdigest.com/uncategorized/conflicting-

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 09-06-13 à 05:50, Christian Trotobas a écrit : Hi On 13 juin 09, at 00:07, Yung-Luen Lan wrote: Hi, *** WARNING: I wasn't able to be at WWDC or WOWODC this year so I'm not sure the following is correct. *** In fact. Would you have been at WOWODC, you would have notived that, obvious

WO deployment on Ubuntu

2009-06-13 Thread Atli Páll Hafsteinsson
Hi Has anyone deployed WO on an Ubuntu box ? I am having trouble getting WO to accept my NEXT_ROOT variable #echo NEXT_ROOT gives me /opt/Apple #sudo echo NEXT_ROOT gives me /opt/Apple but when running an app it complains: "NEXT_ROOT environment variable is not set!" I tryed to set the var in

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread David Avendasora
Hi yllan, I haven't had my coffee yet today, so I'm feeling crabby... On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Yung-Luen Lan wrote: Hi, *** WARNING: I wasn't able to be at WWDC or WOWODC this year so I'm not sure the following is correct. *** It's not. According to the website: http://mac.topnewsdig

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On 13/06/2009, at 7:07 PM, Yung-Luen Lan wrote: Hi, *** WARNING: I wasn't able to be at WWDC or WOWODC this year so I'm not sure the following is correct. *** According to the website: http://mac.topnewsdigest.com/uncategorized/conflicting-information-about-webobjects/ "Mac OS X 10.6 server

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Christian Trotobas
Hi On 13 juin 09, at 00:07, Yung-Luen Lan wrote: Hi, *** WARNING: I wasn't able to be at WWDC or WOWODC this year so I'm not sure the following is correct. *** In fact. Would you have been at WOWODC, you would have notived that, obviously: - Apple's own usage of WO is just increasing c

Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Gustavo Adolfo Pizano
OMG.. and we are starting developing WO app in the company I woprk for... and guess what,., it was me who gave the idea to develop in WO!, :S . what to do what to do ?? no panic. hopefully. I hope we don't have to switch to RoR... I wanna cry. :P no panic no panic.! :P. ... h

Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects

2009-06-13 Thread Yung-Luen Lan
Hi, *** WARNING: I wasn't able to be at WWDC or WOWODC this year so I'm not sure the following is correct. *** According to the website: http://mac.topnewsdigest.com/uncategorized/conflicting-information-about-webobjects/ "Mac OS X 10.6 server no longer support WebObjects." I'm not to talk abo