Re: Any formal notice

2017-10-26 Thread Alan Ward
I heard that Goat Herding is the new WO. Alan > On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Ken Anderson wrote: > > At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :( > >> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti wrote: >> >> I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity o

Re: Alive ?

2017-02-06 Thread Alan Ward
Alive and well. > On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Flavio Donadio wrote: > > I am afraid of running with NSZombies enabled… ;-) > >> On 6 Feb 2017, at 11:11, Jérémy DE ROYER wrote: >> >> Is there anyone alive ? >> >> Jérémy >> >> ___ >> Do not post adm

Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

2016-06-14 Thread Alan Ward
I heard Trump say that he'd ban all Ruby on Rails developers from entering the US and that WebObjects is in the state it's in because Tim refuses to actually call it what is. I think he's also considering making Google pay for the wall around Apple's garden (just as soon as he renounces the boy

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Alan Ward
I think Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not inside. Just my personal opinion Alan > On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu wrote: > > I was reading this Wikipedia article. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware > > Would the list agree that WebObjects is now abandon

Re: Practical WebObjects book ???

2015-01-08 Thread Alan Ward
I think it would be great if we could get William Shatner to narrate it Alan > On Jan 8, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Ken Anderson wrote: > > If you get Chuck to do it, I’ll contribute! > >> On Jan 8, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote: >> >> How many beers will it take to get a book on tape version

Re: Who said, WebObjects should not be used for new stuff?

2014-09-17 Thread Alan Ward
ollow this list :) >> >> Paul >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Alan Ward wrote: >> >>> >>> I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying that's a new DirectAction >>> in an old app. MZFinance has been around since the launch

Re: Who said, WebObjects should not be used for new stuff?

2014-09-17 Thread Alan Ward
I still follow but often can't comment ;-) On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Paul Yu wrote: > Hi Alan > > wow, someone from Apple proper still follow this list :) > > Paul > On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Alan Ward wrote: > >> >> I don't think I&#x

Re: Who said, WebObjects should not be used for new stuff?

2014-09-17 Thread Alan Ward
I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying that's a new DirectAction in an old app. MZFinance has been around since the launch in 2003. On Sep 17, 2014, at 4:30 AM, Markus Ruggiero wrote: > Folks, > just in case you have missed it: > > https://buy.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZFinance.

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Alan Ward
I prefer "sunny side up" ;-) On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > On 2014-03-05, 1:23 PM, "Pascal Robert" wrote: > > It's not only Mike who was poached by Apple. Kieran, Miguel Arroz, Mark > Ritchie, Q, Guido, the list is quite long. > > I think “poached” reflects the wrong attitu

Re: [Excel] - Maximum column with EGSimpleTableCreator

2013-04-03 Thread Alan Ward
What's Excel? I thought it was a car :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Excel Alan On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Dev WO wrote: > I don't want to believe I'm the only one on this list to have to deal with > Excel;) > Any pointer/recommendation regarding the Excel generation column limit?

Re: WebObjects in NYC

2013-01-31 Thread Alan Ward
There are a bunch of Apple guys in the NYC area that do WebObjects development too. Alan On Jan 31, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote: > well then! > > let's have a local meet up or something -- > > > > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Ken Anderson wrote: > >> Who said that? I am… >

Re: 5.4 uploading large files

2012-03-04 Thread Alan Ward
Speaking for myself (and definitely not on behalf of my employer) I'm curious where you are coming from here? Did you have a contract that obligated Apple to continue to support you? What grounds to you believe you have for a law suit? I'm just curious. Alan On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Gaa

Re: Detecting POST vs GET

2012-01-23 Thread Alan Ward
if ("POST".equals(request().method())) { } Alan On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > This question may be elementary, but... > > How can you tell if a form's submit method was POST or GET? I need to make > sure that my form data was not submitted with GET, i.e. where the for

Re: Apple Representation On WebObjects-Dev Mailing List?

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Ward
On Jul 6, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Petite Abeille wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Alan Ward wrote: > >>> And being able to pick up a card and read it by interpreting the hole >>> punches in your head was the geek's equivalent of winning the Super Bowl >

Re: Apple Representation On WebObjects-Dev Mailing List?

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Ward
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Joel M. Benisch wrote: > Oh how I miss the well defined structure of the RPG II processing cycle. > Was so simple and elegant.. > And easy to learn!! :-) > > And being able to pick up a card and read it by interpreting the hole punches > in your head was the gee

Re: Apple Representation On WebObjects-Dev Mailing List?

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Ward
It's going to take 'em a while to get here if they're in the standard issue Jeep ;-) Alan On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: > Alan, be advised that I've dispatched security to your office for breaking > radio silence. > > ms > > On Jul

Re: Apple Representation On WebObjects-Dev Mailing List?

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Ward
There are plenty of "insiders" on the list but I doubt any of them will give you an "official" position. Alan On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote: > Who, if anyone, represents Apple on this mailing list? When it comes to > questions of open-sourcing WO or the availabi

Re: How to use dates

2011-05-14 Thread Alan Ward
This thread was a bit of a let down after a title like that. On May 14, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Daniel Mejia wrote: > Paul, > > I want to try your solution, but I can't find the Framework. I checked all > the directories for the ProjectWonder 54, but I can't find it. I looked for > the ERAttribute

Re: InOverMyHead {"obviously"};

2011-05-06 Thread Alan Ward
I heard the parties often include goats On May 6, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Tim Worman wrote: > On the contrary, I haven't met a single one of you in person (yet) and from > what I can tell you're just a bunch of drunks who plan a big party once a > year. > > And, boy do I wish I could come. :-( >

Re: WebObjects scalability question - WOSession?

2010-11-16 Thread Alan Ward
It almost amuses me that we having these WO scalability conversations now. 10 years ago it was a ballsy move to use WO for a big online application. Now I think it's more "proven" than ever even though the pace of development has clearly scaled back. It's funny that none of the newer technol

Re: WebObjects scalability question - WOSession?

2010-11-16 Thread Alan Ward
y numb while >> we kick back and relax. > > OK, the images I'm getting of you folks lounging around a pool sipping Mai > Tais and waving palm fronds at one another is just way too creepy. The reality is just as creepy as the image - just trust me on that one! Alan > > T

Re: WebObjects scalability question - WOSession?

2010-11-16 Thread Alan Ward
Mike, couldn't you just have just left everyone with the cosy misconception that we wrote all this code 7 years ago, got it "right" first time and haven't had to touch it since? Alan On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Michael Gargano wrote: > "If you DO become iTunes, Google, or Twitter, your app

Re: [OT] No more XServe

2010-11-05 Thread Alan Ward
Wow. Talk about fud. On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Karl wrote: > I think that OS X server, as a product, is going away. > > Its probably just going to be an optional package to iOS ‘Lion’ sold for $79. > > Karl > > On 2010-11-05, at 4:39 PM, André Mitra wrote: > >> Yes, but will anyone with

Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-24 Thread Alan Ward
On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Alan Ward wrote: > >> >> On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: >> >>> IIRC, the issue is: >>> >>> EOEditingContext ec1

Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-24 Thread Alan Ward
On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote: >>> >>> Regardless, Miguel's not totally crazy :) >> >> Yet, my friend. Yet. Computers will kill me someday. And french routers too. > > > French routers. Sounds like English automobiles. Hey

Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-24 Thread Alan Ward
to find out if something outside of my app instance changed the data underneath me. If you think about it like that then it works perfectly. Inside my app instance I like to think that I know what's going on and don't need any help from Optimistic Locking but maybe I'm crazy.

Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-24 Thread Alan Ward
Maybe I shouldn't ask but it's killing me not to. What exactly doesn't work about it? Alan On Sep 24, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: >> because OL doesn't work anyway ;) > uh oh .. here he goes again :) > > ms > ___ > Do not post admin

Re: NSDictionary.isEmpty

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Ward
I don't even see how a race condition could cause that as both the variable and the method are accessed several times during the course of printing his debug output and [he claims] they both have differing but consistent values. Bizarre. Alan On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Re: Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools?

2010-09-10 Thread Alan Ward
On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >> The main problem is that every time someone is good at helping people and >> with coding, Apple will snatch him. > > I'd like to think not everyone. ;-) Though they have tried. You conti

Re: Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools?

2010-09-10 Thread Alan Ward
On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Michael DeMan wrote: > Well > > I can not say for sure, but it is incredibly difficult to get folks who have > expertise in WebObjects anywhere, at low cost. Why would you want them at low cost? > It also has been a dying technology since NeXT got Apple back. I

Re: Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools?

2010-09-10 Thread Alan Ward
>> >> On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Alan Ward wrote: >> >>> >>> I liked your grumpy response better ;-) >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:22 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: >>> >>>> Here's my sli

Re: Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools?

2010-09-10 Thread Alan Ward
On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > So the message is : Learn WO, be good at it, and you likely be able to get a > job at Apple. I believe quite a few people have done exactly that. Alan > >> Apple develop stuff with a wide variety of tools based upon available >> developer

Re: Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools?

2010-09-10 Thread Alan Ward
I liked your grumpy response better ;-) Alan On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:22 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: > Here's my slightly less grumpy response :) > > Apple, like any smart company, makes technology decisions based on lots of > variables -- what technology makes sense? what technology doesn't make sen

Re: Practical WebObjects eBook

2010-06-22 Thread Alan Ward
why is it not in the iBooks Store? On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:15 AM, David Avendasora wrote: > Hey all you iPad/iOS 4/Kindle(?) users out there, after a tweet from Q > (http://twitter.com/qdolan/status/16755226170) I checked it out and Practical > WebObjects (Chuck and Sacha's book) is available as

Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Alan Ward
Mike's not going to disappear you know. On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > 1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are actually > helping the community :-) > >> No! don't take everyone from the list ;-) >> >> d &

Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Alan Ward
We're hiring. Alan On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them. I know they don't > have enough skilled WO developers. I am not sure they could ever have enough. > > > Chuck > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Alan Ward
Welcome aboard the mothership. Alan On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: > thanks everybody :) > > ms > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > >> Oh, and how rude of me... Congrats Mike! (^_^) >> >> Ramsey >> >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: >>

Re: [OT] Fact about Apple Store and WO

2010-02-09 Thread Alan Ward
On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: I am no sure that failing to acknowledge things like this is the best route. Though I agree, speculation is not a good response. Maybe something like this? Q. Why does the Apple Store go down every time they release a major product? A.

Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

2009-11-24 Thread Alan Ward
Um, Johnny... I'm an Apple shareholder too and I'm pretty sure that Apple's ROI on cash is above the current rate of inflation. Can you point me to numbers that support your assertion that hoarding cash results in losing money? I'm just curious... I mean, you throw that out there like it's

Re: 2009 surveys results

2009-10-23 Thread Alan Ward
...and you also don't know how many people within Apple would buy it if Chuck was to write another book. Alan On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: BTW, the 400 devs count is from the total number of devs as told by the results of the org survey, good chance that the communit

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

2009-09-15 Thread Alan Ward
Speaking for myself here (and definitely not for my employer) I don't see Apple using it's patent portfolio to generate cash but rather as a counter defense against trolls. I'm just saying... Alan On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Q wrote: On 16/09/2009, at 1:09 AM, André Mitra wrote: you

Re: Large to-many relationships and caching "Best Practise"

2009-08-11 Thread Alan Ward
I usually cache it in the EO itself but I also add a refreshCaches() method that I call when something modifies the object graph in such a way that the cached relationships may be out of date. The refreshCaches method simply nulls out the private NSArray. The accessor then checks for nul

Re: Thank you WebObjects + community

2009-06-24 Thread Alan Ward
On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:33 AM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Gustavo Adolfo Pizano wrote: LOL!. is it Chunk or Chuck ??.. no Im confused It's Chunk! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HeS453AeJDU/SdpjDGDAzyI/AMs/enp

Re: Meetup Friday in San Fran

2009-06-03 Thread Alan Ward
It's a walk for anyone who's not lazy :-) On Jun 3, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: By the map it looks like a taxi ride away. On Jun 3, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Joe Little wrote: Definitely 21st amendement. They can take an impromptu large party and have lots of microbrews and food to samp

Re: /wa/favicon.ico ?

2009-05-11 Thread Alan Ward
Mike, are you calling us abnormal? ;-) Alan p.s. I could go either way on this topic. I think a rewrite rule is the "easiest" but others may not. And if you don't currently have any rewrite rules then it definitely adds a new deployment wrinkle. I long for the day when I once again de

Re: opposite method to objectMatchingKeyAndValue

2009-02-20 Thread Alan Ward
Add a unique constraint to the database. That is the only way this will work. Your code below could return EOObjectNotAvailableException and then another instance inserts the row before your insert. The database is your friend here. With the unique constraint you don't need to fetch fir

Re: plist to xml conversion of lists

2009-01-22 Thread Alan Ward
I think you want something like degree.list PHD MS On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Joe Little wrote: Previously, I had Property entries like: degree.list = ("PHD", "MS") My newer projects have XML-style plist files. I understand the basic key/string layout for single assignments, but I c

Re: Cappuccino

2008-09-05 Thread Alan Ward
On Sep 5, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: Uhm, I've taken a peek at the API. Seems to have some interesting stuff in there. Very AppKit like. I wonder what Apple would have to say about that, legally. Still, 117 classes to cover

Re: Use of finalize methods in WO

2008-08-21 Thread Alan Ward
On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Nilton Lessa wrote: On 21/08/2008, at 12:06, Alex Horovitz wrote: On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Nilton Lessa wrote: :-) In this report there are pearls like : "Webobjects is a framework in disuse". ...sigh In disguise??? Back when I was at NeXT we call

Re: timestamp mysql oddity

2008-08-16 Thread Alan Ward
, at 10:54 AM, Gino Pacitti wrote: But is this a BST thing and will it change with the clocks move back? On 16 Aug 2008, at 17:48, Alan Ward wrote: Looks to me like those dates are 20,000 years apart though, not just 1 hour ;-) Alan On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Johann Werner wrote: Hi

Re: timestamp mysql oddity

2008-08-16 Thread Alan Ward
Looks to me like those dates are 20,000 years apart though, not just 1 hour ;-) Alan On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Johann Werner wrote: Hi Gino, this timeshift happens if you have different time zone settings for your app and the database. It is commonly suggested to use GMT for both

Re: sequential numbering across more instances

2008-08-15 Thread Alan Ward
On Aug 15, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Aug 15, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Sometimes the app is not the right level for solving the problem. I do try to avoid things like this, but sometimes they are the best solution. Why would you choose this route rather than selec

Re: D2W and Qualifying Relationships

2008-07-08 Thread Alan Ward
On Jul 8, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:07 PM, David Avendasora wrote: restrictedChoiceKey Hmmm Ahg! WOnder. Figures. :) I was hopping for a WO-only solution. Thanks for the quick reply though! I thought The First Rule of D2W was "D2W without Wonder i

Re: new EOObjectStoreCoordinator and closing database connection afterwards

2008-07-01 Thread Alan Ward
I missed the beginning of the thread but closing all your connections is not that difficult... for (Enumeration stores = EOObjectStoreCoordinator.defaultCoordinator().cooperatingObjectStores ().objectEnumerator(); e.hasMoreElements();) { for (Enumeration channels = ((EODatabaseCo

Re: WO 5.4 form value encoding problem

2008-06-24 Thread Alan Ward
Thanks Steve, accept-charset is what I was trying to retrieve from my murky memory. It's a long time since I've worked with a browser ;-) Alan On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Steve Quirk wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Alan Ward wrote: On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Kenny Leung wr

Re: WO 5.4 form value encoding problem

2008-06-24 Thread Alan Ward
On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Kenny Leung wrote: I've figured it out - you have to stick in a meta tag to force the browser to use UTF-8. Something like. Some stuff... No, that tells the browser what encoding the page is in. Forms have an "accept-encoding" tag which t

Re: Design Question: Hiding inherited attributes?

2008-06-18 Thread Alan Ward
EOEntity is your friend Alan On Jun 18, 2008, at 1:43 PM, James Cicenia wrote: OK - Is there a way I can get a list of every method and attribute? Thanks James On Jun 18, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Robert Walker wrote: Maybe I'm misinterpreting your question, but couldn't you just make another E

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Alan Ward
On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Anjo Krank wrote: Just asking: are you also providing a copy of WebObjects (which you can't do according to the license). If not, then why are you giving your users a lesson in copyright law without being a lawyer? Why do you care at all? Is it not Apple's bu

Re: Apple and ... enterprise support?

2008-06-12 Thread Alan Ward
Ray, Timing is everything. Clearly now is the time. Alan On Jun 12, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Ray Kiddy wrote: It's killing me. One of my favorite jokes for when people ask me (since I was in the WebObjects group at Apple for a bunch of years) why Apple is so amazingly dense about WebObjects

Re: The "Mobile me" web apps

2008-06-11 Thread Alan Ward
On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: But I don't like reinventing the wheel. So I could adopt the ERExtensions framework which I believe is all that's needed for integrating Ajax into WebObjects. Or I could continue developing my framework. Or I could wait to see what Apple i

Re: The "Mobile me" web apps

2008-06-11 Thread Alan Ward
On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Ricardo Parada wrote: Ok, most of us have probably seen the mobile me web apps. They are web 2.0 apps that use javascript and ajax. There's a lot of good stuff in those apps. So much good stuff there. I wished Apple made some of that stuff available to u

Re: WebObjects Nightly Builds and WOLips addition

2008-06-10 Thread Alan Ward
October 2003. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=43532 Alan On Jun 10, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Simon McLean wrote: Bloody hell! When did hell freeze over ? Simon On 10 Jun 2008, at 18:36, Mark Ritchie wrote: Hi Everyone! WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site

Re: WebObjects Community Gathering

2008-06-03 Thread Alan Ward
On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Mr. Pierre Frisch wrote: To all, This year Apple is happy to host, like last year, a WebObjects Community Gathering during WWDC. This will be on Thursday June 12 from 4:30 to 6:30 pm in the "The Science and Medic

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
On May 30, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: So, my memory is still not 100% clear on this one but I think we're honing in on why I don't flatten If the relationship is not flattened then I have the option of not using addObjectToBothSides if I know I am doing an insert and then disca

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
On May 30, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: OK, so it sounds like the update is fine but how many SQL statements occur when you try to insert a new Person? I would expect an insert to fire the faults in this case, but that should be the same for a many-to-many with a join entity as long

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
OK, so it sounds like the update is fine but how many SQL statements occur when you try to insert a new Person? Alan On May 30, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: No, I meant an insert or update that didn't modify the relationship. It sounds like your test shows my recollection to be

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
On May 30, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On May 30, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: I'm sure Chuck will correct me if I'm wrong but my recollection is that a flattened to-many will always trip on an insert or update. Hmm. What you mean by "trip on"? Pretty

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
On May 30, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: I'm sure Chuck will correct me if I'm wrong but my recollection is that a flattened to-many will always trip on an insert or update. Hmm. What you mean by "trip on"? Pretty sure Alan is saying that updating or inserting an EO with a flatten

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
I'm sure Chuck will correct me if I'm wrong but my recollection is that a flattened to-many will always trip on an insert or update. Alan On May 30, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: On 30.05.2008, at 14:31, Alan Ward wrote: I actually omit joins from the model in certain

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
On May 30, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On May 30, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: IMHO you should never flatten a many-to-many (especially across models). So this is interesting ... I held this same belief for years until about 6 months ago when Chuck convinced me that I was

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
I'm actually somewhat opposed to flattening in any situation but when it comes to M-to-M my justification is more performance related than anything else. I actually omit joins from the model in certain situations to avoid unwanted fetches and flattening is more of a recipe for disaster tha

Re: Relationship across model boundaries failing

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
IMHO you should never flatten a many-to-many (especially across models). Alan On May 30, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Gennady Kushnir wrote: Flattening relationshops (consequently - many-to-many relations) does not work across database (consequently - EOModel) boundaries Unfortunately. It is mentioned i

Re: This is very strange for me - need help

2008-05-30 Thread Alan Ward
My guess is that you are doing the insert twice in the same transaction. The transaction is then rolled back and consequently you can manually insert the same values with no violation of the uniqueness constraint. Turn on EOAdaptorDebugEnabled and watch the SQL that's generated to get a be

Re: Not going to WOWODC this year?

2008-05-14 Thread Alan Ward
On May 14, 2008, at 6:17 PM, David Avendasora wrote: Leave it to the canadians to bring up beer. Yeah, the Canadians are always bringing it up while the English are keeping it down! :-) Alan Gotta love 'em. Count me in on the beer, WOWODC and WWDC. Especially the beer. Dave On Ma

Re: Not going to WOWODC this year?

2008-05-14 Thread Alan Ward
On May 14, 2008, at 3:52 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 14-May-08, at 5:44 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Ken Anderson wrote: And if you were still holding out to go to WOWODC and WWDC, WWDC is sold out! Never thought I'd hear that... iPhone mania! Can't attend WWDC?

Re: securing communications between web server and WO instances

2008-05-14 Thread Alan Ward
On May 14, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Patrick Robinson wrote: I've got a question that I can't recall ever being addressed here. Using https gets you encrypted/secure communication between yo

Re: securing communications between web server and WO instances

2008-05-14 Thread Alan Ward
On May 14, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Patrick Robinson wrote: I've got a question that I can't recall ever being addressed here. Using https gets you encrypted/secure communication between your users' browsers and your web server. But what do you all typically do to secure communications between y

Re: [slightly ot] Similarity Report

2008-04-30 Thread Alan Ward
take a look at Lucene. Alan On Apr 30, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Joshua Paul wrote: I need to generate a report that gathers information on a set of objects (questions...as in Questions and Answers) and determines which, if any, are similar to each other. I'm certain this will involve 'stop word

Re: WOLips Bindings

2008-04-30 Thread Alan Ward
Just be careful and make sure you don't pick up a can of that LSD paint as that's often right next to the LCD stuff. On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Or use the new LCD paint and paint a wall in your office and make it your monitor. :) Sweeet! Don On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-30 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:07 AM, Alexander Spohr wrote: Am 29.04.2008 um 04:53 schrieb Don Lindsay: I agree. Not really sure who they are selling these to. I work with Government and Fortune 500 companies they and I know I could not get 20k*2=40K past them, we could purchase a hell of a se

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-28 Thread Alan Ward
f static and dynamic content" Having been bitten by webperfcache doing that, I am curious if you have seen WO used on one of these? I am curious as to how dynamic content caching works. Chuck On Apr 28, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Alan Ward wrote: http://www.citrix.com/english/ps2/product

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-28 Thread Alan Ward
ster.co.uk/2008/04/28/citrix_netscaler_mpx/ Cheers, Jake On 29/04/2008, at 7:17 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Chuck Hill wr

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-28 Thread Alan Ward
of Netscaler before Alan mentioned it on this list - but then I saw this in my morning RSS feeds: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/28/citrix_netscaler_mpx/ Cheers, Jake On 29/04/2008, at 7:17 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Ch

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-28 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: "caching of static and dynamic content&quo

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-28 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: "caching of static and dynamic content" Having been bitten by webperfcache doing that, I am curious if you have seen WO used on on

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-28 Thread Alan Ward
sed for caching, only for request routing and SSL. Alan Chuck On Apr 28, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Alan Ward wrote: http://www.citrix.com/english/ps2/products/product.asp? contentID=21679 you don't need to run wotaskd if you run your apps behind one of these. I'm not saying you sho

Re: Best Server Environment for Large WebObjects Applications

2008-04-28 Thread Alan Ward
http://www.citrix.com/english/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=21679 you don't need to run wotaskd if you run your apps behind one of these. I'm not saying you should get one just that it's an option that I* believe is better/faster/stronger than Tomcat (which was your original quest

Re: Web Service fails: add is not a supported operation in com.webobjects.foundation.NSArray ?

2008-04-24 Thread Alan Ward
um, how about using an NSMutableArray? NSArray is immutable and does not implement add. Alan On Apr 24, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Juergen Lorenz Simon wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to implement a simple web service. One of the webservice operations takes an NSArray as parameter. publ

Re: Removing extra blank lines from generated html?

2008-04-18 Thread Alan Ward
always the joker ;-) On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Hugi Þórðarson wrote: How extreme do you want to get? You can work some wonders with your HTML in dispatchRequest Personally, I find that this generates the cleanest possible response: public WOResponse dispatchReqcuest( WORequest request )

Re: MS SQL and NSTimestamp.DistantFuture

2008-04-18 Thread Alan Ward
I believe the problem is that Microsoft has never really considered what the distantFuture may have in store for them. One of these days they'll have a sudden awakening :-) Alan On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:22 AM, David Avendasora wrote: I ended up implementing my own "DistantFuture" method i

Re: Staying with WebObjects

2008-04-14 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote: Hi Alan, On 12/04/2008, at 6:24 AM, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 11, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Simon McLean wrote: I think the real bug-bear for people struggling to get their companies to commit to webobjects isn't the fact that it's not o

Re: Staying with WebObjects

2008-04-11 Thread Alan Ward
company in Guildford, Surrey in '89 when they moved me out to San Francisco. Been in the US ever since. I live in Boulder, CO now though but I still work for Apple (from home). Alan Simon On 12 Apr 2008, at 02:22, Alan Ward wrote: On Apr 11, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Simon McLean wrote: wo

Re: Staying with WebObjects

2008-04-11 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 11, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Simon McLean wrote: wow, so you must have made it to california by sail ? well done captain pierre :-) Yes, Pierre's older than I thought :-) ...unless he was into horse racing. I believe race horses are still sold in guineas. the extra 5% covers the

Re: Staying with WebObjects

2008-04-11 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 11, 2008, at 2:47 PM, David Avendasora wrote: On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Simon McLean wrote: I think the real bug-bear for people struggling to get their companies to commit to webobjects isn't the fact that it's not open source - i think it's the fact that you have to buy a mac

Re: Staying with WebObjects

2008-04-11 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 11, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Simon McLean wrote: Hi Pierre - Thanks for replying - unfortunately not all of us make it to WWDC! When you say "fix bugs for other platforms" is that because of bugs in other platforms JRM ? I don't see how you can have a bug in a java framework that doesn't

Re: Leaving WebObjects

2008-04-09 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 9, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote: Hi! The thing I don't understand is, how were you using WO without using EOF? Were you using just the presentation layers? It's quite simple, just don't include any EOF models. I have written a couple of WO apps in the past that have no

Re: Leaving WebObjects

2008-04-09 Thread Alan Ward
On Apr 8, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote: I can ask about WWDC08. The answer will probably be no since the decision was made quite a long time ago (hard to de-couple it right now tho, so it will definitely be a while). Still the 3 issues I mentioned aren't going away, ar

Re: Leaving WebObjects

2008-04-09 Thread Alan Ward
that too ;-) On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: It's done with thought control I was going to guess that Apple's mail server randomly inserts that comment into all outgoing emails ... ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. Th

Re: Leaving WebObjects

2008-04-08 Thread Alan Ward
I knew someone would get a "WO is dead" comment onto the list somehow but I honestly thought it would be in response to the WWDC calendar. That one was out of left field! Mike, I've been working with WO for almost a decade and I've seen it much weaker than it is right now. Alan On Apr 8,

Re: Leaving WebObjects

2008-04-08 Thread Alan Ward
It's done with thought control On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Simon McLean wrote: #1 music retailer in the world? Do you guys all have a new key combination to insert that statement with ease ? :-) Simon ___ Do not post admin requests to the

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