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2024-10-02 Thread Brian Wolff
. I wasn't able to find any mention of why things like fr.wiki weren't setup to use ncredir. Maybe its just an oversight or perhaps people just thought nobody was using them (?) Or perhaps there is some reason not to redirect. -- Brian On Friday 20 September 2024, Samuel Klein wrote:

[Wikitech-l] Re: Dark theme gray color

2024-07-05 Thread Brian Wolff
istopher > Cuifo linked to already. > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2024, 11:05 PM Brian Wolff wrote: > >> I think it is unlikely MediaWiki will be modified in such a way to show >> different images between light and dark mode. (I assume) we generally want >> to avoid having to sp

[Wikitech-l] Re: Dark theme gray color

2024-07-03 Thread Brian Wolff
I think it is unlikely MediaWiki will be modified in such a way to show different images between light and dark mode. (I assume) we generally want to avoid having to split the parser cache between light mode/dark mode. I guess you could use template styles to display:none one of the images dependi

[Wikitech-l] Re: How to make commits from mirrored Wikimedia repos show up on your GitHub profile

2024-06-17 Thread Brian Wolff
ch extension repo separately.) > > > > (Is there a place on mw.org to put this tidbit on?) > > > > --- Forwarded message --- > > From: "Brian Levine" (GitHub Staff) > > To: matma@gmail.com > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: Commits in mirrored repositorie

[Wikitech-l] Re: SQL problem

2024-06-01 Thread Brian Wolff
I think you want CONVERT(comment_text USING utf8mb4) You need to convert to utf8 before you can collate as utf8. I suspect this query would be pretty slow. -- Bawolff On Saturday 1 June 2024, Martin Domdey wrote: > Hi, > > I want to look in table comment column comment-text for %Unsinn% > cas

[Wikitech-l] Re: Can we do better than just redirect HTTP API requests to HTTPS?

2024-05-29 Thread Brian Wolff
I personally think the rather low risk is not worth the inconvinence, especially since many uses of the API are unauthenticated. If we did it, i think we should only do it for requests that actually have credentials attached (cookie or oauth) Just my 2 cents. -- Brian On Wednesday 29 May 2024

[Wikitech-l] Re: Drop dedicated support for IE 11, Edge Legacy and Opera

2024-05-14 Thread Brian Wolff
On Monday 13 May 2024, Lars Aronsson wrote: > On 2024-05-14 01:17, Volker E. wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> the Design System Team (DST) is proposing the following changes to >> MediaWiki browser support [1]: >> > > When will you drop this stupid "m" in the URLs? > People now link to these "m" URLs

[Wikitech-l] Re: inquiry on method to compress PNG imagefiles stored by WikiMedia

2024-04-23 Thread Brian Wolff
Generally disk space is cheap enough that doing these sorts of things aren't worth the extra complexity, especially when we just have to convert it back to png in order to serve it to the user at the end of the day. LZMA is a more advanced compression algorithm than DEFLATE (which is what png uses

[Wikitech-l] Re: ORES To Lift Wing Migration

2023-08-04 Thread Brian Wolff
> Our understanding is that renaming extensions in MediaWiki is a long and complicated process, so we'll likely not be able to rename it in the foreseeable future. Why? Renaming is usually a bad thing because it often confuses the hell out of users, but from a technical perspective it is pretty t

[Wikitech-l] Re: [action requested] Technical Decision-Making Retrospective Survey

2023-07-18 Thread Brian Wolff
Just fyi, qustion 17 requires you to answer even though the instructions say not to answer unless applicable. On Tuesday, July 18, 2023, Moriel Schottlender wrote: > Hello all, > > The Technical Decision-Making Forum Retrospective team >

[Wikitech-l] Re: Gerrit replica downtime (30 minutes) tomorrow Tue, 16 May 13:00-15:00 UTC

2023-05-15 Thread Brian Wolff
Does this include other uses of gerrit replica? Should extension distributor be switched to main gerrit? -- Brian On Tuesday, May 16, 2023, Daniel Zahn wrote: > > This means codesearch will be affected (and won't get updated) and > possibly even will be down during that time. &g

[Wikitech-l] Re: Continuing development of mediawiki Extension AutoCreatePage

2023-05-03 Thread Brian Wolff
e original author has been notified. -- Brian On Wednesday, May 3, 2023, Oliver Tautz wrote: > Hello, > > > I use the extension AutoCreatePage (https://www.mediawiki.org/wik > i/Extension:AutoCreatePage) in a project at my University. But it does > not work > > in current

[Wikitech-l] Re: Technical Decision Making Retro

2023-04-14 Thread Brian Wolff
decide what needs to be changed, and make those changes. Doesn't get much more consequential than that. I think this is something that should be clarified at the get-go to align expectations. I think its really important to know what the expected outputs are when designing a process like thi

[Wikitech-l] Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-14 Thread Brian Wolff
the end it doesn't make a difference to the end user, and the fragility of that ecosystem is a form of technical debt that is often overlooked. So i guess it all depends on what is meant by "technical debt" -- Brian On Friday, April 14, 2023, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2023

[Wikitech-l] Re: About "Final view structure for view `page_view`"

2023-03-24 Thread Brian Wolff
As far as i know mediawiki core has never used views. It is possible some extension made it, but it would be an unusual thing to do (for example the UserSnoop extension makes a view, but not named that). Or maybe a sysadmin made it for their own purposes at some point. -- Brian On Friday, March

[Wikitech-l] Re: Use case for sha1 in revisions

2023-03-22 Thread Brian Wolff
This kind of sounds like a non-answer, but its mostly useful if you want a hash of the revision. I dont think mw core really uses it, but it can be useful for quickly detecting duplicate revisions. I think primarily it is for external users. -- Brian On Wednesday, March 22, 2023, Bináris wrote

[Wikitech-l] Re: March 2023 Datacenter Switchover

2023-03-01 Thread Brian Wolff
You should probably just file a bug. Its certainly plausible it had something to do with data center switch, but it could just as equally be unrelated. It requires someone to investigate what part of the system failed (job queue? Varnish? Swift?) which would then lead to a root cause. Its pretty i

[Wikitech-l] Re: [Proposal] Disable setting the "Lowest" Priority value in Phabricator

2023-02-24 Thread Brian Wolff
On Friday, February 24, 2023, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 at 11:20, Andre Klapper > wrote: > >> * Personally I also assume Lowest priority is sometimes used instead >>of honestly declining a task (means: "this is not a good idea"[5]). >>But of course that is rather

[Wikitech-l] Re: Can't claim on Phabricator

2023-02-13 Thread Brian Wolff
I also have a memory of there previously being a 1 click button in the sidebar to claim task. Maybe it was a feature that got removed or perhaps just a false memory. -- Bawolff On Monday, February 13, 2023, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2023-02-02 at 17:43 +0100, Bináris wrote: > > > > Jaime C

[Wikitech-l] Re: Contributing through block bases programming to the Wikimedia Codebase

2023-02-08 Thread Brian Wolff
I don't think this is suitable for the mediawiki codebase, but it sounds like something wikifunctions would be interested in. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia -- Bawolff On Wednesday, February 8, 2023, wrote: > Hello, > > I am interested in programming and I asked a questi

[Wikitech-l] Re: Announcing: Path review board

2023-02-02 Thread Brian Wolff
On Thursday, February 2, 2023, Brett Cornwall wrote: > On 2023-02-02 11:33, Zoran Dori wrote: > >> Amazing to hear about this, I'm hoping that this will improve the number >> of >> merged patches which are stuck on waiting for review. >> > > It also might be important to keep contributors motivat

[Wikitech-l] Announcing: Path review board

2023-02-01 Thread Brian Wolff
Yesterday there was a conversation about code review on irc and among other things, how sometimes patches can get "stuck". I had an idea for a way to improve things. I'm not sure if it is a good idea, but there's only one way to find out. So without further ado, announcing the Code Review Patch B

[Wikitech-l] Re: Avoid invisible characters in page titles

2023-01-17 Thread Brian Wolff
Even in english, you still have emoiji that use ZWJ characters. e.g. 🏳️‍🌈 has "invisible" characters. There are all sorts of control characters in unicode that usually do nothing but sometimes do something. There may be some invisible characters that make sense to strip or normalize. Indeed we alr

[Wikitech-l] Re: Paid collaboration for a custom MediaWiki Skin

2022-11-21 Thread Brian Wolff
Hi, This list isn't for job postings. There is a list of people who do that sort of thing at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Professional_development_and_consulting -- Brian On Monday, November 21, 2022, Busayo wrote: > Hello, > > > > We want to create a custom skin for

[Wikitech-l] Re: Zuul status page: redesign and perf

2022-11-06 Thread Brian King
Timo, Thanks for putting the extra effort into documenting your process. It is very much appreciated! Best, Brian King SRE, Search Platform Team Wikimedia Foundation IRC: inflatador > On Nov 3, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Krinkle wrote: > > I've redesigned the Zuul status page

[Wikitech-l] Re: Cookie-based CSS toggles for logged-out readers?

2022-10-10 Thread Brian Wolff
ore readers with accounts > would be good on a lot of levels > > 🌍🌏🌎🌑 > > On Fri., Sep. 30, 2022, 4:59 p.m. Brian Wolff, wrote: > >> Basically, if you are ok with it only taking affect after page load (so >> users see first the original page then the new version) it is t

[Wikitech-l] Re: TDF is looking for community representatives

2022-10-10 Thread Brian Wolff
tually taken and used. There is an underlying fear that the committee is a long winded process where decisions that have already been made get a rubber stamp of approval regardless of any feedback brought up. * inconsistent updates and response to feedback on wiki make the committee look dead. Thi

[Wikitech-l] Re: TDF is looking for community representatives

2022-10-05 Thread Brian Wolff
project, or even have an account. Brian On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:58 AM Technical Decision Forum Support < tdfsupp...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi Brian, > > We have our representatives but we are always looking for some more as we > rotate throughout the year. My apologies fo

[Wikitech-l] Re: Cookie-based CSS toggles for logged-out readers?

2022-09-30 Thread Brian Wolff
way our infrastructure is currently setup. Nothing insurmountable in principle, but high effort and involves some tradeoffs that seems not worth it in context. -- Brian p.s. for the avoidance of doubt, this is my personal opinion and not an "official" answer in any capacity. On Friday, Se

[Wikitech-l] Reminder about WMF board elections - People who develop mediawiki extensions are eligible to vote

2022-08-29 Thread Brian Wolff
I haven't seen too much discussion about this, but i just wanted to remind everyone that people who participate in mediawiki development (including many third party extensions) are eligible to vote in the current Wikimedia foundation board of trustees election, even if you don't edit any wikimedia

[Wikitech-l] Re: Invitation to join the Movement Strategy Forum

2022-08-21 Thread Brian Wolff
So it seems like the killer feature here is integrated machine translation. As a naive monolingual english feature this surprised me - i always assumed separate external translation would be basically equivalent, but i guess that's wrong. Anyways, assuming this is accurate, we should bring someth

[Wikitech-l] Re: Don't forgot, only 4 more days to become eligible to vote in Board elections

2022-07-01 Thread Brian Wolff
Out of curiosity, who decides what constitutes "hav[ing] substantially engaged in the design and/or review processes of technical development related to Wikimedia"? -- Brian of technical development related to Wikimedia On Friday, July 1, 2022, K. Peachey wrote: > Hi all, >

[Wikitech-l] Re: Looking for opinions on PHPSessionHandler::gc behavior and Timezones

2022-05-06 Thread Brian Wolff
That does sound like a bug. I would suggest filing a task about it at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org where it can be discussed further (feel free to add me as a subscriber). Optionally, if you are feeling ambitious, you can also submit a patch in gerrit. -- Bawolff On Friday, May 6, 2022, Davi

[Wikitech-l] Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Wikimedia Hackathon: Call for Sessions

2022-04-28 Thread Brian Wolff
tends to work on. The end result is the priority field becomes ignored, because it no longer reflects the real priority of the bug. -- Brian On Thursday, April 28, 2022, Roy Smith wrote: > The last time I tried to set a phab ticket's priority, I was basically > told that volunteers sh

[Wikitech-l] Re: Different cache invalidation rules for similar users?

2022-04-03 Thread Brian Wolff
Its possible that different cache clusters have different versions of a cached file. Different ways of loading js have different cache characteristics (e.g. some have much less purging) so it can depend a bit on method. Its also possible that one datacenter missed a cache purge the others did not,

[Wikitech-l] Implementing jumbo frames/LACP?

2022-02-11 Thread Brian King
it seems like a good time to start optimizing our network settings. Let us know what you think (and please feel free to suggest any other optimizations). Best, Brian ___ Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an

[Wikitech-l] Re: [Wikimedia-l] Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-28 Thread Brian Wolff
While i'm sure there is always more that can be done in terms of attracting new devs, i don't think that's really where we have the problem. We have lots of interested people. Enwiki is basically a huge captive audience of interested people. I think the problem lies more in the developer experienc

[Wikitech-l] Re: Wikitext, Document Models, and HTML5 Output

2022-01-11 Thread Brian Wolff
Have you seen the html structure of parsoid? E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/html/Dog -- Bawolff On Monday, January 10, 2022, Adam Sobieski wrote: > Wikitech-l, > > > > Hello. I have a question about the HTML output of wiki parsers. I wonder > about how simple or complex that it

[Wikitech-l] Re: Limit to the number of images in a page?

2021-11-29 Thread Brian Wolff
This isn't a per page limit but a number of thumbnails per unit time. Wait a little bit and revisit the page and more pictures should load. Eventually all should. As long as nobody purges the image pages, once the image loads once it should always load again in the future. The current limits are 7

[Wikitech-l] Re: Proposal: new structure for MediaWiki RELEASE-NOTES

2021-07-19 Thread Brian Wolff
> We could write a custom merge driver for RELEASE-NOTES which always puts ‘ours’ before ’theirs’, but I’m not sure the result will justify the investment. Didnt someone already do that? There used to be a ruby script floating around for that. On Monday, July 19, 2021, Petr Pchelko wrote: > Hel

[Wikitech-l] Re: Upstream shutdowns

2021-06-01 Thread Brian Wolff
Also HHVM and Blazegraph. -- Brian On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, Kunal Mehta wrote: > On 5/29/21 5:59 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> It sounds like phabricator upstream is going away: >> https://admin.phacility.com/phame/post/view/11/phacility_is_ >> winding

[Wikitech-l] Phabricator upstream shutdown

2021-05-29 Thread Brian Wolff
It sounds like phabricator upstream is going away: https://admin.phacility.com/phame/post/view/11/phacility_is_winding_down_operations/ Just curious, are we planning to continue using it long term or move to something else? -- Brian ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamically declaring parser functions?

2021-04-18 Thread Brian Wolff
Why not just use the normal magic i18n file? You could just not load it when you don't want it. -- Brian On Sunday, April 18, 2021, FreedomFighterSparrow < freedomfighterspar...@gmail.com> wrote: > My use case is this: > > I have three alternative access points to the wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1st CfP: SEMANTiCS 2021 EU || Sep 6 - 9, 2021 || Amsterdam, The Netherlands

2020-12-26 Thread Brian Wolff
Normally i avoid +1 posts, but since Max is getting some criticism, I wanted to say I also think that this particular conference is off topic to this mailing list and should be posted in a more appropriate venue. -- Brian On Friday, December 25, 2020, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > I agree w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hard deprecation of the Revision class

2020-07-06 Thread Brian Wolff
Hard deprecated = generates warnings if $wgEnableDevelopmentWarnings is on (which in turn cause unit tests to fail, as warnings are considered errors in a test). The code is still there and working for the moment. -- Brian On Monday, July 6, 2020, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > > I think you

Re: [Wikitech-l] SelectQueryBuilder

2020-05-21 Thread Brian Wolff
`field1` = `field2`). Similarly the whole thing with field names only getting automatically addIdentifierQuotes() if it looks like its not sql, always seemed sketch. This might provide us a path forward to address those while still maintaining backwards compat. -- Brian p.s. Now all i need to dream

Re: [Wikitech-l] Render with a slow process

2020-04-28 Thread Brian Wolff
and especially video scaling) is asyncronous. Page rendering itself also works kind of like this - if someone edits a page, and pool counter decides too many people are trying to render at once, next viewer will get an old version of page. -- Brian On Saturday, April 25, 2020, John Erling Blad wr

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is "revision slot" and why is it necessary to specify it now?

2020-04-05 Thread Brian Wolff
It is where a page can have multiple content handlers associated with it. The most common example is commons file pages. They have normal wikitext page, but they also have a slot containing wikidata-style data structured data. Whether or not you have to worry about this depends on what you're doi

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikiEdDiff] Review wanted

2020-02-29 Thread Brian Wolff
Umm, what is with the sgndrp.online tracker urls? -- Bawolff On Saturday, February 29, 2020, Aron Demian wrote: > On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 21:50, Zoran Dori wrote: > > > Hmm, URL works only in old UI, not in new. > > > Didn't work for me even in the old one. Please submit a working link next > t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk livestream chat transcript (was Re: [Wikimedia Technical Talks] Data and Decision Science at Wikimedia with Kate Zimmerman, 26 February 2020 @ 6PM UTC)

2020-02-26 Thread Brian Wolff
Note: the list of who has access (both wmf and otherwise) is at https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/3f7e6a775321e993c001a85ede736d2db087d3e0/modules/admin/data/data.yaml#L270 (there are also some other groups that are probably relevant). This of course wouldnt include people who got specific i

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Chain verification error" when trying to log-in to Beta cluster

2020-01-30 Thread Brian Wolff
this. However lets encrypt at this point is very widely supported. -- Brian On Thursday, January 30, 2020, Kaartic Sivaraam < kaarticsivaraam91...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm writing this email about an issue we recently faced in the > Wikimedia Commons Android app

Re: [Wikitech-l] Storing some values in the DB

2020-01-27 Thread Brian Wolff
You should not do that. Mediawiki reserves the right to delete values out of links tables that do not correspond to a valid page id (probably would only happen if maintenance script was run, but dont rely on that). Putting it in objectcache table (via CACHE_DB) is safer than what you suggest, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

2019-10-13 Thread Brian Wolff
. -- Brian On Sunday, October 13, 2019, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > I don't know if restricting the wishlist only for other projects is so > terrible. Non-Wikipedia projects have complained for years that they are > not getting enough attention, so perhaps giving them extra love at th

Re: [Wikitech-l] WebTestCase

2019-10-02 Thread Brian Wolff
I think selenium is often used for that use case https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Selenium/Node.js/Simple -- Bawolff On Tuesday, October 1, 2019, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > Does MediaWiki have something similar to Symfony's WebTestCase? ( > https://symfony.com/doc/current/testing.html#func

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Outreachy Round 19] Contribution period is now open!

2019-10-01 Thread Brian Wolff
Just in case anyone had the same question as i did, the campaign project is in the context of wiki education dashboard (I was originally assuming upload wizard campaigns). Good luck to all the participants. -- Brian On Tuesday, October 1, 2019, Srishti Sethi wrote: > Hello every

Re: [Wikitech-l] PLURAL in mw.msg

2019-09-29 Thread Brian Wolff
I think you need to load mediawiki.jqueryMsg module otherwise these interfaces do totally different things. Personally im not really a fan of this as i dont like the idea that methods randomly change meaning based on what modules are loaded, but it is what it is. -- Bawolff On Sunday, September

Re: [Wikitech-l] LoginSignupSpecialPage.php form won’t let me add fields

2019-09-21 Thread Brian Wolff
If you havent seen it, the docs at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SessionManager_and_AuthManager/Adding_fields_to_the_registration_form may be helpful. -- Brian On Saturday, September 21, 2019, John Shepherd wrote: > Hello all, > > On my own mediawiki install, I am trying to ad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Statistics for CoC Cases Term May 2018 to May 2019

2019-09-05 Thread Brian Wolff
One thing im kind of curious about: Were any of these cases appealed? If so how many and what is the "success" rate of the appeals process? -- Brian On Thursday, September 5, 2019, Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Hello, > The committee received several reports for cases that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category aliasing proposals

2019-08-05 Thread Brian Wolff
Re other attempts - have you seen https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/core/+/65176/ ? Beyond that some people have talked about using wikidata stuff instead of categories, but im not sure how seriously. -- Brian On Monday, August 5, 2019, Adam Wight wrote: > Friends, > > A

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coolest Tool Award 2019: Call for Nominations

2019-07-16 Thread Brian Wolff
To clarify, does this mean tool in the sense of "tool"server? (Aka coolest thing hosted using cloud services) or is it more general including gadgets, standalone apps or any other piece of technology in the wikimedia ecosystem that's "cool"? -- Bawolff On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, Birgit Mueller w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dealing with composer dependencies in early MediaWiki initialization

2019-06-26 Thread Brian Wolff
just throw an exception if wgServer is not set in LocalSettings.php -- Brian P.s. people with access to security tasks may also find the phab comment at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157426#3192740 interesting where some of the implications of $wgServer were discussed (note the task was

Re: [Wikitech-l] 今週あなたを幸せにするものは何ですか? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 16 June 2019)

2019-06-19 Thread Brian Wolff
I personally think these threads are fine (within reason) if they are thankful about technical things and/or stuff connected to mediawiki. Generic things about the wikimedia movement should stay on wikimedia-l; we have multiple mailing lists with different scopes for a reason. In that light, I cons

Re: [Wikitech-l] My views on the proposed projects for GSoC '19

2019-01-27 Thread Brian Wolff
Hi Kaushik, You are welcome to suggest your own projects for gsoc. If your interest is in data science you may want to read up on some of the stuff that the analytics team does. Different areas have different programming language requirements. For example SRE often uses python. I think analytics

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-14 Thread Brian Wolff
That is the process for getting shell access on production [e.g. servees directly running Wikipedia]. Which is rather different (and much harder) than getting access to an abandoned tool. -- brian On Friday, December 14, 2018, Alexander Vassilevski < alexan...@vassilevski.com> wrote: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 nomination for Alangi Derick (D3r1ck01) in mediawiki/*

2018-11-25 Thread Brian Wolff
I have closed this as successful. Congratulations D3r1ck! -- Brian On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 11:36 PM Brian Wolff wrote: > > I'd like to nominate D3r1ck01 for +2 rights in mediawiki/*. See > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209775 for details. > > > Copying the conte

[Wikitech-l] +2 nomination for Alangi Derick (D3r1ck01) in mediawiki/*

2018-11-17 Thread Brian Wolff
List of reviews: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/reviewedby:%22D3r1ck01+%253Calangiderick%2540gmail.com%253E%22,50 --- Brian ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for maintainers: RelatedSites

2018-11-05 Thread Brian Wolff
Lots of extensions are maintainerless. I dont see why that implies it will eventually have to be archived. Perhaps the day will come when it no longer works with modern mediawiki, but until that day comes, why not leave it be? -- brian On Monday, November 5, 2018, Max Semenik wrote: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

2018-10-02 Thread Brian Wolff
or if someone say reports a sharepoint bug) I think the defining difference is its possible to write a patch for a declined bug, even though it would be rejected, where an invalid bug by definition is unfixable. Just my 2 cents, others may have different definitions. -- Brian p.s. ive never like

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-14 Thread Brian Wolff
oesnt check)? -- bawolff On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > Brian, that's actually exactly how Wikipedia operates, as an admin in > Wikipedia serving for more than 9.5 years. The only difference is that it's > not punitive, and I don't think this ban was

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-14 Thread Brian Wolff
Given that many of our users are from wikipedia, and as far as i understand (I am not a wikipedian), on Wikipedia, using increasing length blocks as as a punative punishment for rule infractions isn't allowed, I would guess many of our community don't see it valid to block people temporarily just b

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-14 Thread Brian Wolff
Thanks Amir for clarifying this. This is the first I remember hearing this was the reason for the sactions against mcbride, and differs significantly from what I assumed was the reason. However, MZMcbride has also claimed his comment was in exasperation after facing the same breach of the CoC you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-13 Thread Brian Wolff
While there are two people in this thread complaining so i suspect its not that obscure, but this is also the first i have ever heard of it as well. Definitely something we need to track down. -- Brian On Monday, August 13, 2018, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Am 13.08.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Gergo Ti

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread Brian Wolff
wrong? -- brian On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, Max Semenik wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 5:08 PM, MZMcBride wrote: >> >> The wikimedia-l mailing list is very specifically not within the purview >> of the mediawiki.org "Code of Conduct" or its associated committee. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread Brian Wolff
While what are we arguing then? I think i have lost track. -- brian On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > It's possible to highlight abuses while still being respectful and > collegial. No one is seriously arguing that criticism should be banned (or > the word "

Re: [Wikitech-l] Creation of new mediawiki/extensions/** group in gerrit

2018-07-24 Thread Brian Wolff
To clarify, would the proposed new group be for all extensions, or just non-WMF deployed extensions (and i suppose allow others to opt out as well if they so desire)? -- brian On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > This is J

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 nomination for MarcoAurelio in mediawiki/*

2018-06-20 Thread Brian Wolff
Wow. That is kind of a sad statistic :( -- brian On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, Kunal Mehta wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > I've closed the request as successful. Congrats to MarcoAurelio for > being the first new volunteer +2'er since 2016

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Multimedia] Video output changing to WebM VP9/Opus soon

2018-06-17 Thread Brian Wolff
Woo! Good to see us moving forward to newer codecs. What is the expected impact on transcode time/memory usage? (As in, will large videos still transcode fine or would they potentially hit limits sooner?) -- brian On Sunday, June 17, 2018, Brion Vibber wrote: > In the next couple weeks

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Brian Wolff
. -- Brian On Saturday, June 9, 2018, Brion Vibber wrote: > I'd just like to apologize for dragging the other thread into this one and > being overly personal and failing to assume good faith. > > That was a failing on my part, and not good practice. > > Please if you respond

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

2018-06-08 Thread Brian Wolff
ss of what view you hold you can probably always find someone on the internet who agrees with you. Second if the people dont participate we cannot evaluate their arguments on their merits or count them. If its not for consensus seeking (evaluate args on merit) or for coun

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

2018-06-08 Thread Brian Wolff
on is no where near clear cut enough to justify that without discusion * Generally speaking, its usually considered in poorform to have an argument about something, lose the argument (or at least not win it), wait a year until people forget about it, and then try and do the exact same thing. -- brian ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

2018-06-07 Thread Brian Wolff
I for one think that requiring a specific filesystem structure or notice in a git repo is quite far afield from the sorts of things that CoC is designed to deal with. -- Brian On Thursday, June 7, 2018, Chris Koerner wrote: > “Please just assume for the sake of this discussion that (a)

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC discussion: the future of rev_parent_id

2018-06-04 Thread Brian Wolff
case, revision C's parent should benull or 0. Similarly for revision X. I dont view the parent as what revision came first but what revision was edited to make this revision (i.e. where the current revision was "forked" off from) -- Brian ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [nominations needed] Wikimedia Technical Conference

2018-06-01 Thread Brian Wolff
nominating people for (people with skills (what type of skills?) who are going to be "selected by the comittee" or are we nominating for the 17 volunteers? (What type of volunteers? Wikipedians (aka users)? Volunteer devs? How do third parties fit into that?) -- Brian On Friday, June 1, 20

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recent Account hijacking activities

2018-05-16 Thread Brian Wolff
y be taken as a comment about general password security and not about this particular incident) -- Brian Wikimedia Security Team On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, Leon Ziemba wrote: > I'm no security expert, so bear with me! Just looking for some > clarification. > >> regularly chan

[Wikitech-l] Proposal: Add security researchers to CREDITS file & [[Special:Version/credits]]

2018-05-01 Thread Brian Wolff
keeping MediaWiki secure, I think we should also credit them in the CREDITS file. I propose adding another section to the file - "Vulnerability Reporters", listing the names of everyone who has reported a security vulnerability in either MediaWiki or a bundled extension. Thoughts?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction : Tanvi Dadu ( GSoC 2018)

2018-04-24 Thread Brian Wolff
Welcome Tanvi! -- Brian On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, Tanvi Dadu wrote: > Greetings ! > > I am Tanvi Dadu, GSoC 2018 participant . I will be implementing Feedback > Sharing Module in Commons App and > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189788#4153895>quiz > <https:

Re: [Wikitech-l] File upload file in HTMLForm with ooui

2018-04-15 Thread Brian Wolff
not sure. There is probably a bug here somewhere though, either the two modes should be consistent in their support for file types or it should fallback to non-ooui in that case (imho) Sorry, Brian On Sunday, April 15, 2018, Toni Hermoso Pulido wrote: > Hi Brian, > > if I only specify on

Re: [Wikitech-l] File upload file in HTMLForm with ooui

2018-04-15 Thread Brian Wolff
Im not sure, but having the class specified as HTMLTextField looks wrong (type & class are mutually exclusive. You should only specify one). -- Brian On Sunday, April 15, 2018, Toni Hermoso Pulido wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to migrate a HTMLForm to use ooui >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Incoming and outgoing links enquiry

2018-03-18 Thread Brian Wolff
-20180301-pagelinks.sql.gz (you would also need https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20180301/enwiki-20180301-page.sql.gz to convert page ids to page names) -- Brian On Sunday, March 18, 2018, Nick Bell wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm a final year Mathematics student at the University of Br

Re: [Wikitech-l] What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? (threat model: crypto miners)

2018-03-14 Thread Brian Wolff
e rights). Any method that does not involve editinterface or a related right that is normally restricted to administrator (or higher group) should be considered a serious security issue in mediawiki and reported immediately. -- Brian Wolff ___ Wikitech-l mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] TechCom Radar, 2018-02-14

2018-02-20 Thread Brian Wolff
Umm, why would you want that over just looking at the page views for a page? If its a, people navigating to a page internally vs externally, it would be probably better to try to convince analytics to break down the page view data between local and external referrers instead of relying on a url sh

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security question re password resets and Spectre

2018-01-05 Thread Brian Wolff
[This is kind of getting far afield of mediawiki, but...] Spectre can potentially be used to read your private (bitcoin) keys, so bitauth is just as vulnerable to it as anything else (assuming keys on your computer and not some hardware token setup). The only benefit i see is that bitauth would pro

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security question re password resets and Spectre

2018-01-04 Thread Brian Wolff
Labs and production machines are separate machines. An attack on labs in the worst case would only be able to attack other labs users. As Cyken said, one of the very scary scenarios is js getting access to data it should not have access to (e.g. if your inputting your password in one tab and a mal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security question re password resets and Spectre

2018-01-04 Thread Brian Wolff
No, spectre/meltdown wouldnt apply to that situation. The meltdown/spectre vulnerabilities is all about computer programs having access to data they should not. In order to exploit the attacker must be able to run computer programs on the victims computer. -- brian On Thursday, January 4, 2018

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecation + phan issue

2017-12-19 Thread Brian Wolff
(wfDeprecated()), so that those could be voting. -- brian On Tuesday, December 19, 2017, James Hare wrote: > I’m not entirely familiar with how we use Phan, but if it’s like the other tests we run with Gerrit, what we could do is have a test for deprecated APIs that passes or fails as you might exp

Re: [Wikitech-l] Many spurious RefreshLinksDynamic jobs in Queue

2017-12-19 Thread Brian Wolff
RefreshLinksDynamic jobs arent critical for MediaWiki running properly, you can disable them (I think) by setting $wgJobClasses[refreshLinksDynamic]='NullJob'; This would of course mean pages with dynamic wikitext do not get their links updated except when edited. -- brian On Tuesday, December 19, 201

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing a new security testing tool for MediaWiki extensions "phan-taint-check-plugin"

2017-12-14 Thread Brian Wolff
ebrew will let you do this, and I assume other installation methods will let you do this too. Thanks, Brian On Thursday, December 14, 2017, Tom Bishop, Wenlin Institute < tan...@wenlin.com> wrote: > > >> On Dec 11, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: >> >> ... >

[Wikitech-l] Announcing a new security testing tool for MediaWiki extensions "phan-taint-check-plugin"

2017-12-11 Thread Brian Wolff
Hello everyone, For the last little while I have been working on a new tool to automatically detect common security issues in MediaWiki extensions. The tool can detect a number of issues, including: * XSS ** We include here using wfMessage( 'foo' )->text() when you should have used ->escaped()

Re: [Wikitech-l] FLIF for Wikimedia

2017-12-10 Thread Brian Wolff
Maybe not a hard no, but I would rate the probability as somewhere around 1%. If you really wanted to push this (with the understanding that its probably not going anywhere) I would say make a report, comingup with a solid case with a solid implementation plan, including: * what is the fallback pl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: [Wikidata] Imperative programming in Lua, do we really want it?

2017-12-07 Thread Brian Wolff
Lua is used for many purposes - some of which I think are well suited to an imperaive approach (or at least would be totally fine to do in an imperative style). There are of course many cases where an imperative approach would be a poor choice. There are no rules that apply to all programming thin

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