Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On Feb 8, 2015 8:17 AM, "Tim Landscheidt" wrote: > > Tyler Romeo wrote: > > > One thing to point out is that: > > > 1) Even right now, under the GPL, if extensions do qualify as “derivative works” or w/e, they do have to be GPL licensed. > > 2) Source code only has to be provided to users of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Use of hreflang in the

On Feb 9, 2015 7:07 AM, "Daniel Friesen" wrote: > > On 2015-02-09 2:16 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > This of course would add some additional payload to pages with lots of > > language links, but could help avoid results like [2] where the English > > language version of an article is #1 and the Ind

Re: [Wikitech-l] need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal

On 2/12/15, James Salsman wrote: > I invite review of this preliminary proposal for a Google Summer of > Code project: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accuracy_review > > If you would like to co-mentor this project, please sign up. I've been > a GSoC mentor every year since 2010, and successfully

Re: [Wikitech-l] need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal

> > Furthermore, the initial limited subtask would be much more difficult > to evaluate as a strategy without a working prototype, including by > the Bot Approvals Group which demands working code before making a > final decision on implementation. Trying to second guess the BAG is > presumptuous.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Feb 13, 2015 6:15 PM, "Max Semenik" wrote: > > Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a > responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just > do it: > * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend > * Leave all mobile-specific improvements, "improv

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

> > -- Every registered user would be able to flag edit as tool edit (bot > needs special user group) Vandals would have fun with that, but bot group could be set up like that (e.g. "flood" group) > -- The flag wouldn't be intended for use by robots, but regular users > who used some automated to

Re: [Wikitech-l] post project funding

On 2/21/15, Pine W wrote: > In general WMF has a conservative grant policy (with the exception of IEG, > grant funding seems to be getting more conservative every year, and some > mission-aligned projects can't get funding because they don't fit into the > current molds of the grants programs). Sp

Re: [Wikitech-l] Types of allowed projects for grant funding (renamed)

On 2/21/15, Pine W wrote: > (Now continuing this discussion on Wikimedia-l also, since we are > discussing grant policies.) > > For what it's worth, I repeatedly advocated for allowing IEG to support a > broader range of tech projects when I was on IEGCom. I had the impression > that there was a l

Re: [Wikitech-l] post project funding

> > > Couple quick clarifications: > 1. There have been many IEGs that focus on tool development, including > those from the most recent round > . There's no > "tradition" of denying software projects: they're quite well represented > among c

Re: [Wikitech-l] Possible parser test breakage in cases using

On Feb 26, 2015 2:03 PM, "Brion Vibber" wrote: > > The tag generation has been updated to include srcset attributes > for high-density displays: > > An unfortunate consequence is that if extensions have parser test cases > including a they will need to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Transfering domain cswp.cz to WMF

On Feb 28, 2015 10:21 PM, "Krinkle" wrote: > > I don't think Wikimedia is currently looking at maintaining a url shortening service. > > However, a redirect domain (distinguished by whether or not the target url can be trivially derived from the request url) seems much more feasible. Especially co

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor proxy with blinded tokens

On Mar 10, 2015 10:21 PM, "Risker" wrote: > > Thanks, Chris. But if the account is obviously not a normal account, I'd > suspect that this special kind of user account would quickly become very > obvious to those who snoop and would actually increase the level of > scrutiny on the account, both

Re: [Wikitech-l] What does it take to have a project hosted on the Wikimedia git server?

On Mar 13, 2015 6:05 AM, "Strainu" wrote: > > Hi, > > The Romanian Wikipedia has a code repository used mainly for robots of > interest to the local community. So far, it has been hosted on Google > Code. Since that site is closing, we are considering replacements and > one of the possibilities wa

Re: [Wikitech-l] What does it take to have a project hosted on the Wikimedia git server?

hricht- > > Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] What does it take to have a project hosted on the Wikimedia git server? > > Datum: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:16:06 +0100 > > Von: Strainu > > An: Wikimedia developers > > > > 2015-03-13 13:53 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske : > >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Org changes in WMF's Platform Engineering group

On Mar 24, 2015 10:45 PM, "Rob Lanphier" wrote: > > Hi folks, > > First things first: I'm not burying the lede in this email, so if you > aren't interested in the inner workings of WMF's Platform Engineering team, > feel free to ignore the rest of this. :-) > > We're making a few changes effecti

Re: [Wikitech-l] Org changes in WMF's Platform Engineering group

On Mar 25, 2015 1:18 PM, "Gilles Dubuc" wrote: > > > > > Does this mean there will no longer be a multimedia team/nobody responsible > > or working on what the multimedia team was working on previously? > > > > We'll keep supporting the extensions that multimedia used to cover, in > terms of addre

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

On Mar 26, 2015 9:58 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote: > > Hi. > > Moushira Elamrawy wrote: > >The Extension will keep the name Gather and internally the team was more > >inclined to name the feature "Stacks". However, a survey study has been > >carried out by the design research team and Collections, as a n

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

On Mar 26, 2015 11:04 AM, "Brian Wolff" wrote: > > > On Mar 26, 2015 9:58 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > Moushira Elamrawy wrote: > > >The Extension will keep the name Gather and internally the team was more > > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

you can play with it on betalabs: > > > ** http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special: > > Gather/by/Jdlrobson > > > ** http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Gather > > > * I'm personally excited to make multiple watchlists a reality using this >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Monthly MediaWiki releases

On Mar 26, 2015 5:47 PM, "Greg Grossmeier" wrote: > > > > Hi it has been 3-4 months since the last mediawiki releases when will they have a new release since it has been a long time. > > Sorry about the delay; the Wikimedia Foundation had a third-party > security audit of our site and code (incl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-03

Or perhaps we need better definitions of what unbreak now means. Wasn't the original definition supposed to be for major outages? The type of thing where 48 hours was the very outside limit on acceptability? E.g. bugs of the form "25% of users can't edit". Of course history has shown that trying t

Re: [Wikitech-l] BounceHandler deployed 'everywhere' succesfully

Congratulations. Its no small feat to get something deployed and used on Wikimedia, especially when its integrated directly with the site. Many gsoc projects have failed in this regard, you should be proud of what you have accomplished. -- Bawolff On Mar 30, 2015 2:24 PM, "Tony Thomas" <01tonyth

Re: [Wikitech-l] odd namespace number

On Apr 2, 2015 7:01 AM, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > > Hi, > > Flow has a new namespace: Topic. It has an even namespace number by > default: 2600. Liquid threads did the same thing. Afaik nothing bad happened (although i think its important to have namespace 2601 defined, even if unused). --bawol

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thumbnail image hinting in articles via metadata tags

On Apr 2, 2015 2:58 PM, "Jon Robson" wrote: > > Hi James! Thanks for mailing out. > > On the subject of OG tags, we have a bunch of bugs around explicitly > using og tags ([1] for example) > This thread is very enlightening: [2] > > tldr: Essentially I think many of us, myself included, would lik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thumbnail image hinting in articles via metadata tags

On Apr 2, 2015 11:02 PM, "MZMcBride" wrote: > > Brian Wolff wrote: > >On Apr 2, 2015 2:58 PM, "Jon Robson" wrote: > >>On the subject of OG tags, we have a bunch of bugs around explicitly > >> using og tags ([1] for example) > >> This thr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

Oh look, we go full circle ;) I haven't checked but given its implemented as a special page i doubt Risker's cu concerns are addressed. Edits to lists do not appear in contribs on beta site. --bawolff On Apr 4, 2015 11:15 AM, "Kevin Wayne Williams" wrote: > > I hereby nominate "collection

Re: [Wikitech-l] Obfuscating IP addresses on history pages

Things that come to my mind: *range blocks become impossible, and its impossible to tell if vandals are using near by ips *cant do a whois on the ip to see if its a library or something Suppose those first two come down to the drawback of not knowing the ip is you dont know the ip More importantl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Requiring PHP >= 5.3.3 for MediaWiki core

On Apr 7, 2015 1:26 PM, "Matthew Flaschen" wrote: > > On 10/27/2014 03:05 PM, Krinkle wrote: >> >> On 24 Oct 2014, at 17:31, James Forrester wrote: >> >>> >>> ​How much longer? 1.25 is May 2015; Wikimedia's ZAP -> HAT migration is >>> nominally to be finished within a month…​ > > > I think we're

Re: [Wikitech-l] Must the logging table be in chronological order?

On Apr 7, 2015 1:54 PM, "Daniel Barrett" wrote: > > Will anything bad happen if entries in the MediaWiki "logging" table are not inserted in chronological order? > > Due to a bug, our logging table has incomplete data. I'd like to insert the missing data using a script. > However, the log_id colum

Re: [Wikitech-l] Obfuscating IP addresses on history pages

On Apr 8, 2015 11:12 AM, "Kevin Wayne Williams" wrote: > > Cristian Consonni schreef op 2015/04/08 om 3:00: > >> 2015-04-05 17:31 GMT+02:00 Brian Wolff : >>> >>> Things that come to my mind: >>> *range blocks become impossible, and its imp

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

On Apr 8, 2015 2:59 PM, "Jon Robson" wrote: > > The main motivation for lists as not being wikipages is so that they > can be combined with the recent changes feed and other things stored > in the database. To be nitpicky, not only is it possible to combine rc with wikipages, its been supported (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

> > To be nitpicky, not only is it possible to combine rc with wikipages, its > > been supported (and mostly unused) for ages in the form of > > special:recentchangeslinked. More structured lists could be done with > > content handler (as with all things there are pros and cons to such an > > appro

Re: [Wikitech-l] Another reason to consider forcing https

On Apr 11, 2015 1:18 PM, "Pine W" wrote: > > https://citizenlab.org/2015/04/chinas-great-cannon/ > > Pine > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l A surprisingly bold move

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Math extension, errors that may be Windows-related

On Apr 12, 2015 6:06 AM, "Brenton Horne" wrote: > > I sent this message to MediaWiki-l but as I am yet to receive a reply despite sending it about a day ago I have decided to forward it here. > > > Forwarded Message > Subject:Math extension, errors that may be Windows-rel

Re: [Wikitech-l] GRAPH extension is now live everywhere!

On 5/5/15, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Starting today, editors can use ** tag to include complex graphs and > maps inside articles. > > *Demo:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo > *Vega's demo:* http://trifacta.github.io/vega/editor/?spec=scatter_matrix > *Extension info:* https://ww

Re: [Wikitech-l] jQuery UI, opensearch API, categories and autocompletion -- oh my!

On 5/6/15, Jack Phoenix wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) > wrote: > >> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Jack Phoenix >> wrote: >> >> > I'm trying to build an autocompletion thingy that suggests categories >> based >> > on user input using the opensearch API [1]. >> >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

Im told the multimedia team got undisbanded and now is part of editing department. People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet --bawolff On May 9, 2015 2:3

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

On 5/13/15, Trevor Parscal wrote: > The team has some hires, and there will be some needed focus on hiring at > least some of them as backend/MediaWiki core engineers. This is mostly > because we acknowledge the sizable backlog of tasks in that area as well as > the need to make improvements in th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Darian Patrick

On 5/19/15, Chris Steipp wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to introduce Darian Anthony Patrick, our new Application Security > Engineer for the foundation! Darian joins me as a member of the newly > formed Security Team. He comes from Aspect Security, where he provided > code/architecture reviews and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

On 5/19/15, Pine W wrote: > MZ, I think we should be grateful that WMF is dedicating resources to power > users, make suggestions to them on what we most want them to work on, and > leave it at that. > Isn't part of the criticism of this thread that the team has unclear scope? Is the WMF actually

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [MediaWiki-announce] MediaWiki bug fix release 1.25.1

For some reason this didn't automatically go to wikitech-l. So fyi everyone: -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Steipp Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 15:26:57 -0700 Subject: [MediaWiki-announce] MediaWiki bug fix release 1.25.1 To: mediawiki-annou...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello everyone,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

On May 28, 2015 4:21 PM, "Jon Robson" wrote: > > I suspect the idea is to lean more on our quality assurance infrastructure > e.g. browser tests which I fully welcome. > > The more developed they become the less chance of regressions making it to > code let alone our projects. > > When I joined 3

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

On May 28, 2015 8:40 PM, "John Mark Vandenberg" wrote: > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Legoktm wrote: > > On 05/27/2015 01:19 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> New cadence: > >> Tuesday: New branch cut, deployed to test wikis > >> Wednesday: deployed to non-wikipedias > >> T

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

On 6/3/15, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > Most operator are volunteers and don't have time to change the code every > month because there is a change in the api. Because of this devs should keep > the api backward-compatible. > Also wondering why wee need this "new" api. The old one was imho perfectl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please help a patch not to become two years old

On 6/8/15, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 21:40 +0200, Ricordisamoa wrote: >> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67588 needs love. >> Less than 2 days left! Thanks in advance. > > For future reference, adding basic context (e.g.: "Scribunto" here) is > very welcome if you would also like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback requested on our search APIs

On 6/8/15, Dan Garry wrote: > Do you use our search API? If so, I'd like to hear from you! > > The Discovery Department > at > the Wikimedia Foundation is tasked with building a path of discovery to > relevant and trusted knowl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback requested on our search APIs

On 6/8/15, S Page wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> The search api (by which I mean query=search in api.php) is somewhat >> poorly documented. You have to dig to find >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:CirrusSearch . >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback requested on our search APIs

> > To really make this awesome we need structured data support for > Commons with Wikidata. We'll be making more progress on it in the > second half of this year but there is a lot to do. > Sure, to really make that awsome, yeah you need wikidata. But we are far away from hitting the point where

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using "," as decimal separator in #expr

On 6/14/15, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > I'm using the #expr parser function provided by the Parser Functions > extension. I'd like it to use "," as decimal separator, and it currently > uses ".". Is there a way to change this nicer than installing String > Functions and doing a replace? > > C

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementing features for the sake of implementing features

On 6/17/15, Eran Rosenthal wrote: > Sometimes programmers waste their time for implementing > non-useful/non-important features, but sometimes such features aren't just > not useful, but harmful.[1; you are more than welcome to convince me > otherwise] > > Both developers, designers and project ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Plan for a Developer Relations team

On Jun 29, 2015 3:01 PM, "Quim Gil" wrote: > > Hi, the Engineering Community team is working on a plan to evolve onto a > Developer Relations team. This is not just a change of name. See > > * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering_Community_Team/Developer_Relations_team > < https://www.mediaw

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki needs a governance model

On 7/1/15, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > I just posted this at http://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/Blog_Post:18 and I > would like to invite your comments. > > = MediaWiki needs a governance model = > Eighteen months ago, at the > [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014 MediaWiki > A

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data and Developer Hub protoype

On 6/25/15, S Page wrote: > http://devhub.wmflabs.org is a prototype of the "Data and developer hub", a > portal and set of articles and links whose goal is to encourage third-party > developers to use Wikimedia data and APIs. Check it out, your feedback is > welcome! You can comment on the talk p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data and Developer Hub protoype

On 7/6/15, S Page wrote: > On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> First of all, the links at the beginning, should not go directly to >> the projects in question, they should go to pages explaining how to >> use those projects in question on the outsid

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

> If it wouldn't be a distraction from other priorities, I'm wondering if > project management could be the subject of a Tech Talk sometime. (Cc'ing > Rachel who I believe coordinates Tech Talks.) > > Thanks, > > Pine > You mean like "Kanban: An alternative to Scrum?" https://www.youtube.com/watch

Re: [Wikitech-l] [recommended reading] do terrible things to your code

1. You can always assume that all your input is magically converted to UTF-8 NFC (Not if you're running from a maintenance script) 2. You can do things like call the API (internally) to edit a page when a method from $wgParser->parse() is on the stack (Well you can, but the page you're parsing is g

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/7/15, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > On 08/07/2015 11:43 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote: >> Thank you for drafting this up, Matt. Who's "we" here? > > In that case, "we" meant the Wikimedia technical community (in > collaboration with other related groups at WMF). Several people have > already participat

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/10/15, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > On 08/10/2015 07:10 PM, MZMcBride wrote: >> I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. We already have: > > As you know, none of those are binding policies that apply to all > Wikimedia technical spaces. > >> * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fri

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

On 8/12/15, MZMcBride wrote: > Tim Starling wrote: >>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331 >> >>Running the output of the MediaWiki parser through HTML Tidy always >>seemed like a nasty hack. The effects on wikitext syntax are arbitrary >>and change from version to version. When we upgrade our

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

On Saturday, August 15, 2015, MZMcBride wrote: > Robert Rohde wrote: >>Some years back I was importing a large number of complex templates to a >>wiki that didn't have tidy enabled. The results were nothing short of >>horrendous in a substantial number of cases. Wiki authors will generally >>sto

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Pine W wrote: > what's happening with regard to improving usability for humans and > increasing the difficulty for bots? Generally speaking, isnt that an open problem in computer science? -- Bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

> brion, > civility _is_ enforced already today by the terms of use, nothing new > necessary. It really isn't except for extreme cases. There's a difference between a policy enforced from above saying you're not allowed to do various things, most of which would probably land you in jail, and a wid

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/22/15, Tyler Romeo wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> For example, MediaWiki is intentionally GPLv2, not GPLv3. > > > MediaWiki is not intentionally GPLv2. It merely is v2 now and the community > cannot come to a consensus on wheth

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/22/15, Risker wrote: > David, thanks for this find. > > THIS is why the Code of Conduct is needed. I recognized myself in this > blog. I remembered avoiding any aspect of socialization at conferences I > had to attend for work, and simply didn't even consider attending > conferences for any

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/23/15, Oliver Keyes wrote: > Admins? And who are those? Please build a listing of every admin for > every possible technical venue relating to Wikimedia. > > While you're at it, we're going to need them to have a shared hivemind > so enforcement is consistent between venues. They're also goin

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

e, searching for "Why should code of conducts not be enforced by admins" and "Why should code of conducts not be enforced by large bodies" which are the most obvious query for Steinsplitter's question, come up with nothing. But even if they did come up with something relaven

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/24/15, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi, > > I remembered how readily "the guys" assumed that any woman there was there >> for more than just networking and learning. I remembered having my butt >> pinched, my breasts "accidentally touched", my questions ignored or >> laughed >> at. I remember how th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

On 8/25/15, Dan Garry wrote: > On 19 August 2015 at 23:06, Matthew Flaschen > wrote: >> >> I agree this is an important issue. It just isn't resourced right now by >> the WMF, as far as I know. >> > > Indeed. There have been numerous discussions about the captcha on this > mailing list over the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/26/15, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 23/08/2015 01:09, Brian Wolff a écrit : >> On 8/22/15, Tyler Romeo wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: >>> >>>> For example, MediaWiki is intentionally GPLv2, not GPLv3. >>> >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Saving MediaWiki:common.js

Did you check your php error log (And make sure that php error logging, particularly of fatal errors is enabled). Check also your web server error log (if php segfaults or something, it would show up there) -- -bawolff On 8/26/15, Legault, Phillip [ITSUS] wrote: > Yes it is a private site > > I

Re: [Wikitech-l] renaming Wikimedia domains

On 8/26/15, Jaime Crespo wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Alex Monk wrote: > >> I'm not sure why database changes would be involved in a domain-only >> change? It should be simple enough to get the new domain set up in DNS and >> apache config, tell multiversion how to map it to the old

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

> To better address the needs of our core contributors, we're now focusing > our strategy on the curation, collaboration, and admin processes that take > place on a variety of pages. Many of these processes use complex > workarounds -- templates, categories, transclusions, and lots of > instruction

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

>> >> >> This sounds a lot like PageTriage, which at best was a mixed success. >> I hope the team is able to extract lessons from that extension and >> apply them to whatever they intend to work on. >> > > "at best was a mixed success" speaking as someone who has used it > extensively, that is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 9/3/15, Brian Wolff wrote: >>> >>> >>> This sounds a lot like PageTriage, which at best was a mixed success. >>> I hope the team is able to extract lessons from that extension and >>> apply them to whatever they intend to work on. >>> >&

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 9/4/15, Pine W wrote: > Re-reading the original email, it sounds to me like Flow is being put into > maintenance mode, not killed. It also sounds to me like the resources that > were being invested in Flow are going to be redirected to "the curation, > collaboration, and admin processes that ta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

I don't think putting a $$ value on it is necessary to answer David's question (Or even sufficient from a user perspective). The core of it is: *Will anyone (from WMF) be coding any new features, that don't exist yet. *Will features that half work or are currently in the process of being developed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

On 9/5/15, MZMcBride wrote: > Oliver Keyes wrote: >>On the general subject of codes of conduct and what they bring (or >>don't bring) in terms of user safety and a sense of inclusion, I >>recently encountered http://wp.me/p11Aax-4aq on Twitter - it's an >>interesting read and brings up a couple of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

On 9/5/15, rupert THURNER wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Flaschen > wrote: > >> There is consensus at >> >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Next_steps >> that the best way to finalize the CoC draft is to focus on a few >> sections

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

> the mails sent here the last week made me think more thorough about what > the actual problem is, and reconsider my posiiton. i added comments to the > phabricator ticket at: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#1612033. > > to summarize the phabricator comments briefly, i experienced the wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] thumb generation

On 9/12/15, wp mirror wrote: > 0) Context > > I am currently developing new features for WP-MIRROR (see < > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wp-mirror>). > > 1) Objective > > I would like WP-MIRROR to generate all image thumbs during the mirror build > process. This is so that mediawiki can render p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Idea: Cryptographically signed wiki pages.

On 9/13/15, Purodha Blissenbach wrote: > In a discussion in the German Pirate Party the idea came up that we > might want to have cryptographically signed wiki pages. > I could not find that this has been implemented already anyhow. > > Thus, can we develop an extsion which provides cryptographica

Re: [Wikitech-l] Idea: Cryptographically signed wiki pages.

Not to mention images, dynamic parser extensions that do not functionally depend on their input, changes to site javascript, etc. On 9/14/15, John Erling Blad wrote: > You will run into problems with transclusions > http://www.w3.org/standards/techs/xmlsig#w3c_all > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:54

Re: [Wikitech-l] The "other" developers at the Wikimedia Developer Summit

> > We want to increase their participation bringing their own proposals and > joining others' as stakeholders, I suppose I'm kind of confused by the scope. We want template creators to propose RFCs for architecture changes in MediaWiki? -- -bawolff __

Re: [Wikitech-l] The "other" developers at the Wikimedia Developer Summit

> > I think this is the key point. Remember that this is the "developer summit" > and > not an "architecture summit", and as such anything MediaWiki-related is up > for > grabs. And if the topic of templates comes up, specifically what we need to > fix > in templates or what new features we should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Link: useful article on in-person events

On 9/16/15, Frances Hocutt wrote: > An excellent article on best practices and pitfalls for in-person technical > events: https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/software-in-person > > This has some ideas and framings that can be useful for planning for the > upcoming developer summit. > > -Frances >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Super-charging Mobile: An experiment with ServiceWorkers in MediaWiki

> > The biggest issue we have on the mobile site right now is we ship a > lot of content - HTML and images - since we ship those on desktop. On > desktop it's not really a problem from a performance perspective but > it may be an issue from a download perspective if you have some kind > of data lim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea " Extension: Offline MediaWiki "

On 9/22/15, adisha porwal wrote: > Greeting, > I want to contribute to wikimedia and for that Outreachy > intership program looks perfect fit for > me. > > For participating in outreachy internship, I need a project idea that I > will be working on during my inte

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea " Extension: Offline MediaWiki "

allenge_1:_Syncing_wikis_-_.E2.80.9CGitify_MW.E2.80.9D > [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100154 > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> On 9/22/15, adisha porwal wrote: >> > Greeting, >> > I want to contribute to wikimedia and f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help needed with reading strategy process

> > In our own exercise, we identified one problem that manifests itself across > different indicators is our core system's lack of optimization for emerging > platforms, experiences, and communities. > What does that even mean? What's an emerging platform? Hardware platform (e.g. Do you mean mob

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do you run mediawiki on shared hosting? Tell us about it

On 9/23/15, Gilles Dubuc wrote: > I've created this task on the topic of shared hosting: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210 as a proposal for the upcoming > Wikimedia Developer Summit. > > If anyone on this list is currently running mediawiki on a shared hosting > platform, I would really

Re: [Wikitech-l] svn/git backends (was: Re: Project Idea " Extension: Offline MediaWiki ")

On 9/25/15, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Purodha Blissenbach > wrote: >> There has been a project in the past that converted a MediaWiki code base >> from SQL to use svn or git as message store. I do not remember which. It >> worked afaicr but was discontinued as no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mentors and projects needed for Outreachy round 11

WMF is made up of individuals. If there's something that you think should be done, why not figure out which team it would normally fall under, and politely suggest it to the people on the team that they should make it a priority (If it doesn't fall under any team - lets be realistic, it probably wo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mentors and projects needed for Outreachy round 11

On 9/28/15, Frances Hocutt wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> That said, gsoc/opw usually doesn't reflect Wikimedia community >> priorities all that much (imo). >> > > Do you have any thoughts on why that might be? As I'm o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Port mw-vagrant to Raspberry Pi ( arm )

On 9/29/15, Tony Thomas <01tonytho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I was looking at some statistics of school students ( < 17 years ) > participation from my state in Open Source program like Google Code In, > and it is ~0. The Government here has initiated a project to distribute > Raspberry Pi

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] Hygienic templates

> > That was intentional; the wording in > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Process suggested that > email conversation should be pursued orthogonally to discussion on the Phab > ticket. The phab task links to the email discussion archives, so nothing's > going to be lost. > > I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [MediaWiki-l] An "advanced search" page for CirrusSearch?

I once tried doing something like that in js. But for the use case I was trying to do, it was very limited by a bug in Cirrus where you can't OR operators with incategory:. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-advanced-search.js See also https://phabricator.wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical expertise needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

On 10/6/15, Chris Schilling wrote: > Hey folks, > > Applicants for the current round of Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) have > submitted many proposals that involve new tools, bot tasks, and other > technical elements. I’ve provided the list of these proposals and brief > descriptions below. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical expertise needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

find that good-faith comments > help me to improve my proposal. > > Thanks for your interest in IEG! > > Pine > On Oct 6, 2015 8:05 PM, "Brian Wolff" wrote: > >> On 10/6/15, Chris Schilling wrote: >> > Hey folks, >> > >> > Applica

Re: [Wikitech-l] XSS warning for an image download

On 10/24/15, Pine W wrote: > When I right-click on the image download link for > File:Commodore_Grace_M._Hopper,_USN_(covered).jpg the download I get is > only 269 bytes and it contains a 404 error in plaintext even though it's a > jpg file. > > When I click on the image preview that's 480x600 pix

Re: [Wikitech-l] XSS warning for an image download

d URL: [ > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Commodore_Grace_M._Hopper,_USN_%20covered%20.jpg#36059408556548644467 > ]. > [NoScript HTTPS] AUTOMATIC SECURE on https://upload.wikimedia.org: > WMF-Last-Access=25-Oct-2015; domain=upload.wikimedia.org; path=/; HttpOnly; > Secure > Typ

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