Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Looking at this from an outside point of view I'm awfully confused on the simplicity or complexity of learning StarOS. We have both ends of the poles as well as a middle ground - very easy to very hard. Would those of you who stated their opinion on the difficulty level mind sharing their other n

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Sam Tetherow
I am primarily a MT shop although I have started putting up StarOS APs on Matt's advice and because they are certified. From a configuration point I don't think they are really all that complex but then again I am programmer/network admin/unix geek so I'm probably skewed toward the technical e

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (was CiscoVLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, I second your claim of high capacity Linux routers. (my comments are not specific to MT) Our newest generation of Linux Routers are easilly passing 4-5Gbps through it. The secret to fast Linux routers was several fold. The first was to get to a 2.6 kernel, and NAPI support on drivers. Th

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor support, unless it was added recently. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday

Re: [WISPA] Where is JAB when we need them

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes, 5830 AP is the latest AP. But FOX 5580 and 5800 are the latest CPE versions. Its the sub $300 CPE. 5830 as a CPE was designed to be a Top Quality CPE of its time, and was competiive proced for CPEs of that time. It was kept for those WISPs that demanded teh high quality design CPE. But t

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 03:18 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor > support, unless it was added recently. Depends on what you call "recent"...from the changelog: What's new in v3.0beta1: *) added initial support for SMP on x86; -- **

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Let me explain MT enables everything to be done through an easy graphical interface. In other words no need to remember syntax. In StarOS, to configure advanced features, from the menu you open up a script page, and then manually writing text commands. StarOS has little documetnations, MT ha

Re: [WISPA] OT: FCC investigation.

2008-12-10 Thread reader
I read quite a bit of it, but gave up when I found it both boring and tedious. Martin's major crime is being a Republican. Expect that in the next few months, that will be considered criminal and prosecutable, as a concerted effort will be made to personally destroy every appointee they can.

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thats great news then. I thought I'd share another detailNOt to high jack the thread A month ago, I was asking about what MT boards supported long range CAT5 (450ft). After much investigation, I was told that ONLY the 4 port NIC cards supported it, not any of the SBCs. It was also repre

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (was CiscoVLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Gino Villarini
Brad, Sounds like my setup... What are you using for customer CPE? We use RB450's even doing MPLS on those Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (was Cisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Brad Belton
Most all of our x86 MikroTik routers are running v2.9.46, but we do have a few running v3.16. Yes, we did see the "fast clock" issue on versions 3.15, but it has not caused any of our routers to crash. They just had a fast clock. Version 3.16 is supposed to resolve that problem, but we have stil

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

2008-12-10 Thread Matt Liotta
Not sure; I know it can be done on the 3560s. I think it is just an IOS feature. -Matt On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Matt, > > This is for the 3550 right ... Cant be done on the 2950's? > > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

2008-12-10 Thread Matt Liotta
Is there are switch where you accidently connected VLAN 150 to VLAN 1? For example, a VLAN 150 access port connected to the default VLAN of another switch. You may want to apply BDPU filters to certain ports to segment the network until you track down the issue. Any port with a BDPU filter

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Leon Zetekoff
Tom DeReggi wrote: > Ironically, the two big reasons that we use StarOS more, has nothing to do > with reasons other WISPs would choose. We wanted a standards based testing > tool that was able to be run from any device on our network. We chose Iperf. > StarOS was the first to add Iperf to its

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread eje
Odd I never seen a problem running multiple winboxes on the same pc. There even been time where I been logged in more then two times to the same router with winbox. Had more then 10 winboxes running at the same time. Personally I very much the MT CLI interface much more then the StarOS menu driv

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Brad Belton
Correct. The v3.x x86 routers we have running do show multiple CPUs. For example we have a handful of 1U servers with dual Xeon 3GHz CPUs deployed as CPE routers for a few new larger accounts and they show four processors. We are running BGP with these accounts and the additional CPU support doe

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (was Cisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Travis Johnson
I have an Intel Q9550 processor running v3.13 right now. Works perfectly for 100 days of uptime so far. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: One question I really would love to hear the answer to.. What version of 3.x are you using (if any) on those multi core/processor Mikrotiks? Josh L

Re: [WISPA] BitTorrent to go UDP in next release

2008-12-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proactive_network_Provider_Participation_for_P2P P4P is trying to do something very much like that. Lots of issues to work out as yet. P2P will evolve but likely will be a mix of P2P/P4P. I know I would love to have a P2P cache box to ease/defray the load (off peak, p

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 03:00 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: > Looking at this from an outside point of view I'm awfully confused on the > simplicity or complexity of learning StarOS. StarOS is a simple OS to learn. It's not that hard because there's not a lot to it. It is very useful for wireless dep

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Barnes
As I stated in my earlier post. I think that StarOS is a Solid Option. I am a fairly new startup WISP. I started by expanding an existing distant wisps network in our county. They had 1 tower with 20 clients. I have taken it over and have expanded it and have over 300 clients in a short time. I

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Barnes
Sam if you find good documentation other then the forums please let the rest of us know. I would love it. Maybe some of you StarOS gurus out there should offer a training class. I know at least 3 guys that would love to have one. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Messa

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

2008-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
You made it into an MT email over night! I can forward to you if you didn't get it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:19 PM T

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (was CiscoVLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
You made it into an MT email over night! I can forward to you if you didn't get it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:40 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread reader
A quick and handy feature is a "config" file which can be uploaded and pretty much configures everything. I set up my cpe and then downloaded the file. After that point, uploading that file does a full configure of my CPE, including firewall, CBQ, NAT, etc. The file is unique per hardware pla

[WISPA] survey says

2008-12-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Redline2860.29% Alvarion40304.02% Ubiquity20782.07% Canopy4486744.78% Other95269.51% Trango1147211.45% Tranzeo1317913.15% MT1476614.74% Total100204100.00% Responses98 -

Re: [WISPA] The fastest ISPs in America.. And only WildBlue was mentioned as wireless???

2008-12-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the note back! I hope my frustrated peers haven't been too hard on you :-). I've also cc'd the public WISPA mailing list so that folks see what you've had to say. I can tell you that my company (coverage map here: www.accima.com) is over 600 subs now. We compete again

Re: [WISPA] survey says

2008-12-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'd think that is fairly close. Heck, even out here I'm over 600 now! marlon - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey says > Interesting to note that

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
One of the nice parts about StarOS is that the scripting format is the same as the linux packages that they load to perform those functions - so if you want to learn how to do fancy cbq scripts, just look for the many available linux docs that describe how to use iptables and you are set. Sam

[WISPA] Service Lead

2008-12-10 Thread Jerry Richardson
If you can provide business service 1.5Mbps synchronous with static IP please contact Greg Licon @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925-914-4571 Service Address: 4331 Pock Lane Stockton, Ca 95206 Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread John Valenti
Lucaya/StarOS/Valemount/SOS/VNC(*) put on a training session last January in the Caribbean. Last I heard they were planning one for Minnesota in Jan '09. You best bet to learn about them would be thru the StarOS forums. (*) This is one of my complaints about StarOS - what the heck do I cal

Re: [WISPA] survey

2008-12-10 Thread Patrick Leary
Obviously I am commenting late, so sorry for that, but what jumps out for me is that this shows that "list" participation is weighted towards Canopy users. Canopy users have built a vibrant community of operators, especially under the august stewardship and commitment of Chuck from the operator sid

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Sam Tetherow
Tom DeReggi wrote: > Let me explain > > MT enables everything to be done through an easy graphical interface. In > other words no need to remember syntax. > In StarOS, to configure advanced features, from the menu you open up a > script page, and then manually writing text commands. > StarOS

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Sam Tetherow
Did you ever get an answer on your VPN issue. I have one customer that is having problems and 2 others that are not... Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Steve Barnes wrote: > As I stated in my earlier post. I think that StarOS is a Solid Option. > I am a fairly new startup WISP. I start

Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Barnes
Nope, Not with StarOS and Tranzeo. Worked most of the time when I put a StarOS V3 CPE on the same. Worked right away with MT and Tranzeo. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Where is JAB when we need them

2008-12-10 Thread Jeff Booher
Oh right add another 70,000 subs to canopy's #'S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Where is JAB when we need them Re

[WISPA] Please participate in the following survey

2008-12-10 Thread Rick Harnish
The WISPA Board is currently trying to assess different options. We encourage your participation in the following survey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Ap9lOHyNRpNtj72JQKvxlQ_3d_3d Thank you, Rick Harnish General Manager - Midwest Region Great American Broadband 260-827-2482

Re: [WISPA] Please participate in the following survey

2008-12-10 Thread Gino Villarini
Question 5 is broken Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:46 PM To: 'WISPA General L

Re: [WISPA] survey

2008-12-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Ok, we can bump Alvarion up to 2%... - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey > Obviously I am commenting late, so sorry for that, but what jump

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Please participate in the following survey

2008-12-10 Thread Chuck McCown
You copycats... ;-) (Did you guys pay for the better account, it really would be helpful). - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish To: 'WISPA General List' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [WISPA Members] Please partici

Re: [WISPA] Please participate in the following survey

2008-12-10 Thread Rick Harnish
Should be fixed now, thank you. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Please participate in the foll

Re: [WISPA] Please participate in the following survey

2008-12-10 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Looks like it's not for vendor members (q1). Correct? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:02 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Please participate in the following survey

Re: [WISPA] Please participate in the following survey

2008-12-10 Thread Rick Harnish
A few vendors have participated already, I plan to do another survey specifically for vendors soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Plea

Re: [WISPA] survey

2008-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
After, God it seems like forever at least since I started looking into being a WISP Patrick was with Alvarion... now to see Aperto it's so weird. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From:

Re: [WISPA] survey

2008-12-10 Thread reader
Yeah, amazing how stuff changes... I once recall having a list monopolizing debate with Patrick that went on to the point of rousing a mob... Patrick arguing that residential wireless could not be done, and me arguing that without residential, wireless was doomed. I wonder if he remembers...