If the subscriber can get the signal and use it they can certainly configure
their own equipment to let the neighborhood on in so many ways it would
drive you crazy. I use a combination of educating the user on why it's not a
good idea to run it wide open (my child porn story comes in handy in
Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them.
I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of
years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the
ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done.
Why carry a separate GPS? I
I don't know, but I think I'd run point-to-point wireless to the
building and then run DSL in the building. I think it would be more
reliable.
--Curtis
Robert West wrote:
I agree to that. For what you are doing, the Mikrotik would be a no brainer
to decide on. But that that, he's looking
Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS
Because not everyone carries a cell phone.
Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on
while looking at the GPS.
Curtis Maurand wrote:
Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them.
Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it
easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys,
they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done.
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
I lol at the iphone.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Chuck Hogg
Any one has used the pUniverse App?
You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f
all the stars...
How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!!
Site Surveys would be a piece of cake!
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel
Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell
tower locations to give location data.
When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do
triangulation!
ryan
On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't
My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on
the building where I am inside
Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images to
hires large handheld screen either. I find this the most useful gps
I've ever owned and I've had dozens. I really like
Iphone 3gs have a real gps
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:15 AM
I am in total agreement! The iPhone is the best phone/gps I have ever
owned. MotionX is nice, considering the TomTom stuff that just came
out, but would really like to test drive it first. That along with ssh,
rap, van clients and instant Exchange sync make it a very useful tool
for us.
*
That was of course supposed to be rdp and vpn, not rap and van.
Darn spell checkers :)
* Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
-Original Message-
From:
Well, for one I'm not a cell phone geek. Geek in everything else but not
the cell. I prefer a cell phone that makes a phone call and receive a phone
call and that's about it. It's small, sits in my pocket and if I trash the
thing somehow, no love lost. (I still use our Motorola Spirit radios
We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for
such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then
some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running
DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles.
On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS
I think his point was, get one that does. After all, the guy is
thinking of spending to get a dedicated GPS. A new cell phone (if it
didn't have GPS) instead isn't a big stretch I should
The modern phones like the iPhone, Pre, and latest blackberry have
true satellite GPS.
Chuck
On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell
tower locations to give location data.
When there is only 1 cell tower in the
Yeah, the GoogleEarth app (for the iPhone anyway) is truly awesome.
Chuck
On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on
the building where I am inside
Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images
My Nextel i720 (when I used Nextel) had real GPS. You have to look
carefully, but lots of cell phones have real GPS receivers in them. If
I'm on a tower, I'm using bluetooth so I have my hands free and then I
can look at the GPS at the same time. the iphone doesn't multi-task.
The Pre and
I just love my Blackberry Curve 8900.
GPS, wifi, UMA calling (wouldn't be able to do without it all carries suck in
this area on indoor coverage). Really nice browser (much nicer then the 8320 I
used to have), nice email. Nice resolution on the screen. Can edit word and
excel docs. Built in
Yes, but you can limit the connections per IP to something that once several
people get on it, it will die. Not much you can do with any type of router,
why NAT is there. But there are plenty of tricks in there.
---
Dennis Burgess,
Nasty, super easy!Only down-side is the signup page is plan jane currently.
But it gets the job done!
---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP
On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
My Nextel i720 (when I used Nextel) had real GPS. You have to look
carefully, but lots of cell phones have real GPS receivers in them.
If
I'm on a tower, I'm using bluetooth so I have my hands free and then I
can look at the GPS at the
Yeah, my phone on one climb serves the following functions (while on
tower)
Phone
Email
SSH into gear
Network monitor to make sure all devices are up and running
GPS
Can take nice photos of the equipment and inside box while up there to
assist memory later
Can adjust level and tilt of radios
I hear ya. I can operate all that stuff on the phones, just have no use for
it really. I program them, fix them and as far as my Verizon, I wrote some
seem edits and unlocked the picture portion in order to transfer via USB
cable and activated the mp3 and ringtones functions. Just because it
That's not a bad setup though. Stop talking your evil to me, you devil!
Outta my head, Satan!!!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
I have T1 from an asterisk box feeding into a channel bank which then
provides individual analog lines to OLD Hitachi PBX.
Rhino says channel bank should work fine (this is second one and they have
tested it)
However, this is not the case, less than half the time it works, more than
half the
You could use an Adtran Atlas800 box to convert or reconfigure your T1s.
The stock ones come with 2 t1 ports I think. They are cheap on Ebay, and
I have a couple kicking around too. We used to use them to convert PRIs
to T1s and before that BRIs to PRIs. It could also replace the channel
bank
Try this, reverse Tip and Ring..
Reverse the wires on the ground start line.
That used to fix a lot of problems in my previous life as a telephone guy.
less than half the time it works, more than
half the time the PBX can't pick up the line from the channel bank.
Interesting article.
http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=171860
Perhaps we can use this opportunity to help the FCC and the public
understand that:
1. Fixed wireless serves a different market than mobile (cellular) wireless.
2. Fixed wireless needs more spectrum (including TV White
I love my Garmin Vista HCx. If all you want is data logging, there's
some very tough and inexpensive data loggers out there which are very
durable because they're much simpler, no LCD display and few buttons.
Greg
On Aug 20, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Robert West wrote:
I'm finally getting rid of
Who is planning on attending this conference/exhibition in two weeks. I have
been asked to present on two topics:
a) Use of WiMAX within the SmartGrid for Energy companies, this leverages
off the work we have been doing with several US coops and with several of the
major electric
Seems to be more focused on the voice side of wireless - in particular the
exclusive contracts of certain phone vendors with certain providers for
certain high-end (and pretty cool) phones that the smaller cell companies
don't have available to them (the Pre, iPhone, Curve 8900, basically all the
It doesn't work, He talked me into getting one :s
Now for ATT to give me my upgrade
Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x106
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:29 AM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com
Hm...I wonder how much Google had to do with that letter
from the FCC being sent to ATT??? It pretty funny though, running Google
Voice VoIP over the ATT signal. There goes a lot of those fees out the
door if you had unlimited internet but measured voice calls.
Voice over IP,
Kevin,
WISPA will be there on September 1, 2 and 3.
http://www.tmcnet.com/voip/conference/west-2009/overview/w09-whats-happening-at-itexpo.htm
This show has quite a few interesting sessions.
WISPs on the West Coast (CA, OR, NV, AZ, etc.) may want to consider
attending.
WISPA has
http://www.dmasoftlab.com/cont/home
This is the newer more updated site for radius manager Martha.
Also might check out Gatespot from Wisp-router.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Martha Huizenga
Sent: Thursday, August
Ran across this article.. Thought it was a bit humorous..
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Government-IT/What-Is-Broadband-FCC-Doesnt-Know-241
331/
This should be something where I think WISPA should try to influence and
educate about fixed wireless.
/ Eje
-Original Message-
From:
The initial requestor wouldn't be able to use a data logger. He needed to
know the coordinates now but all he needed really to know is coordinates and
height so a simple GPS that display just that would suffice.
My suggestion would be the Beacon GPS Tracking unit as an example that can
be had
Could you not set the CPE to DHCP and the IP pool to allow only 1 IP
address?
Richard
2009/8/21 Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
Not seen a single solution that can do that. That is the functionality of
NAT to hide what is behind it. I take advantage of it all the time when I'm
staying in
A handheld GPS unit has more accuracy and features than your run of the mill
phone. They also output GPS info to other devices\programs.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Curtis Maurand
Nextels (I believe) have always had real GPS... they just use aGPS to speed
initial syncs.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009
Sure, but the customer plugs that one connection into his own wireless
router and runs it as a DHCP server.
richard sterne wrote:
Could you not set the CPE to DHCP and the IP pool to allow only 1 IP
address?
Richard
2009/8/21 Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
Not seen a single
Kevin,
It's worth noting that there are actually 2 separate wireless tracks / shows
within IT Expo
Ours (that we're doing with WISPA), is called WiNOG @ IT Expo -- track /
seminar info is here:
http://www.tmcnet.com/voip/conference/west-2009/attendees/w09-winog-at-itexpo.htm
-- it is a track
I'm with ya brother and that's the one I'm gonna be putting the money on
this weekend. Looks to be a winner.
Thanks for all the help!
Robert West
Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eje
We deploy in fairly dense housing editions for our wireless service and
run across this occasionally. We use PPPoE for logged in routers and
DHCP to put them in a Not Configured pool of IP addresses. During an
installation, we configure the routers for them, securing their
wireless. If someone
No not really because the broadband router they would use only need 1 IP
then it runs dhcp server on the inside and your AP/hotspot controller cannot
see what is on the inside of the customers network you only see the on IP
and it's single MAC address.
/ Eje
-Original Message-
From:
Just as a FYI. Systems like Ruckus Wireless have built in 'Rouge AP'
detection capabilities. Which would allow you to manage such from remote,
without the need to do a 'fly by'.
Faisal Imtiaz
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
I think it was Earthlink that did have a technology by which they could see
the different MACs behind a router. I wish I could remember how they said it
worked. They did tell me that at the time, they were not worrying about how
many computers were behind your NAT.
Ralph
-Original
Rogue detection mostly a joke. Now before you go all whacky on me- I don't
mean that it is a joke to want to know if you have someone who has brought
an AP into the office building and inadvertently created a hole in the
armor. I just mean that there is very little use for it other than that.
Pretty confident finding the MACs behind a NAT device is impossible.
I do remember some discussion on this list (or the Moto one) that suggested
a white paper by a company that had created software that can intelligently
guess if there was NAT judging by how it created sockets.
Josh Luthman
The only one that I know that does that is Perftech.
Otherwise, it must be a black hole.
. . . J o n a t h a n
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
You are right. See below
From Perftech-
Subscriber PC Audit
Application Name: Audit Sentry
The Audit Sentry application counts and reports the number of users behind a
PC modem, helping to detect and resolve theft of service, intended or
unintended, for the Provider. It can also alert
Yes it is. Because a correctly crafted NAT package should replace the MAC
address. Of the internal devices with it's own external MAC.
The only true way I can see this happening is to have a device that connects
to the rouge ap and attempt to generate traffic to specific end point and have
Everyone is entitled to their opinions !
Any time there is 'new feature or function introduced by Vendors , there is
always a potential of serious disapointment on how it fuctions in reality vs
what was expected.
Eventually someone comes along and starts to make them work like they are
supposed
I believe you can also tell by the timestamps in the packets.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:38 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Here is another very nice article, with a few links / software tools.
http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/NAT_detection
Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see
memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a
technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1!
-RickG
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
We use a Sextant and a compass to do
Need some tips on VPN's. I know I've got many people who VPN to their
offices with little or no trouble. But, I've had a few that had
nothing but problems (dropped connections). I've got one now that is
complaining but his connection is very strong (pings without loss avg
2ms direct from AP and
What type of VPN?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM, RickG
Or Desqview.
On 8/21/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see
memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a
technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1!
-RickG
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert
We upgraded our systems a few years ago. We ran abacus 1.0 for years but it
got to where we were having to add more rows of wooden balls and I kept
losing my place. So, we opened up the wallet and plunked down 6 bucks (I
was able to talk them down from 7) for the recent IBM ps/2 running PC-DOS
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