On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:40:07 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, wispa wrote:
Uhmm, Butch... No, they're not asking for a means. They're
insisting that we build the tap into our network, at our expense,
prior to a request ( whether we got any requests or not ), to
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, wispa wrote:
This is the FCC declaring that EVERY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BE
PRE-TAPPED at the expense of industry.
WHAT? You are not correct. This is the LEA asking for a means to collect
data on suspected criminals
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wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance
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wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into
a profit center.
Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder up
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
I think I'm going to be the first to say this, but
I
OK folks - Most of you are in rural areas where you are the only
choice for broadband. You need to advise your subscribers and your
congressional representatives of the hardship this will cause. Perhaps
if they lose votes, they will help.
-RickG
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We
: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:00 AM
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We are just deploying a new IOS image that includes Cisco's SII
architecture. Our only cost is time.
-Matt
Rick Smith wrote:
OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time
-5599 fax
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:22:12 -0600, JohnnyO wrote
I'm not a pessimist at all. I just know what federal
Looks like these platforms are supported:
1-pre2
1-pre3
7200
7301
as5350
as5350xm
as5400
as5400hpx
as5400xm
as5850-ersc
as5850-rsc
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Question 1. If WISPA develops an industry standard which meets all the
technical and legal requirements of the law, will law enforcement accept
our data stream from whatever standard we develop?
Question 2. Will your office allow us to have a system or process
certified as being CALEA
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, John Scrivner wrote:
Question 1. If WISPA develops an industry standard which meets all
the technical and legal requirements of the law, will law
enforcement accept our data stream from whatever standard we
develop?
In addition to this, how about adding the idea of
Mark said:
So, you think the big guys aren't going to lobby for things that benefit
them, while we have no voice or consideration because don't have billions to
lobby with?
We have people going to D.C. to meet with the FBI directly to help get
this all worked out. How much more
it any
time they want...
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, wispa wrote:
Uhmm, Butch... No, they're not asking
: [WISPA] Form 445
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Rick Smith wrote:
OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time (or
patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA.
The most difficult thing about the CALEA compliance issue is that the format
of the data has not, yet, been finalized
Me as well, if you didn't imply that from the private email this morning.
Sandhills Wireless, LLC
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Tim Wolfe wrote:
Get me in there!.
Include me in WISPA 445 Filing
WaveCrazy Communications
Rick Herrmann wrote:
Include me in WISPA 445 Filing
Zing LLC
Butch,
Here's a decient paper based on the european version of calea.
http://www.aqsacomna.com/us/articles/LIIPWhitePaperv21.pdf
Ed
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:33:55 -0600 (CST)
Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SO..for a WISPA built mediation box, you could simply put together
a Linux server
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Mark said:
So, you think the big guys aren't going to lobby for things that
benefit
them, while we have no voice or consideration because
: CALEA - HOW? RE: [WISPA] Form 445
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Rick Smith wrote:
OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time (or
patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA.
The most difficult thing about the CALEA compliance issue is that the
format
and should be asked on behalf of WISPA.
JohnnyO
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wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys
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Ideas about how to fill out the form if you don't know how you would
comply yet? Does anyone know if this is a required field? Can you just put
not sure yet? Are there industry
Include me in WISPA 445 Filing.
UnwiredOnline.Net, LLC
Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please include me in the WISPA 445 filing Rabbit Meadows Technology, LLC
On 2/12/07, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal
Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all WISPA members
and that he can do it with just a company name for now. He will file for
all of WISPA operators who wish and include company names of those who
want to be included. No names will be included who have already filed
Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all WISPA members
and that he can do it with just a company name for now. He will file for
all of WISPA operators who wish and include company names of those who
want to be included. No names will be included who have already filed
themselves
No, thank you. I've already wasted most of the day completing the forms but
our post office run for the day is already gone. So, I was wondering if our
forms could be post marked Tuesday instead of Monday. - cw
John Scrivner wrote:
Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all
John please include us, COLI Inc.
Bill Gaylord
COLI Inc
John Scrivner wrote:
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal Members who want it done for them. They are
allowing
Include NetsurfUSA, Inc. in the WISPA 445 filing for CALEA.
Don Renner
NetsurfUSA, Inc.
812-936-4514
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Ok I paid up
Please include us in CALEA filing
Intelliwave, LLC
Thanks
Chris Cooper
Intelliwave, LLC
740.592.0322
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Just paid up... include RTPS Networks, Inc. d/b/a Near You Networks
THANKS! AWESOME IDEA!
R
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Boy...if that's not a valuable service justifying my dues.
- Cliff
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If you are a
On 2/12/07, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal Members who want it done for them. They are
allowing later filing now. Kris will be
John.
Include CV-Access, Inc.
Thanks,
Tim Kerns
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Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all
A Canadian company that I was talking to thought it was just a matter of
time until they had the same sort of regs.
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Kris Twomey has told me he can do this and that it will meet the
requirements for filing. It is not a terribly difficult thing to do but
it is just easy to use an attorney for anything like this. I do not
bother trying to meet every legal filing requirement. I consider that my
attorney's job
Erik - are you a paid member of WISPA ?
JohnnyO
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On 2/12/07, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
On 2/12/07, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kris Twomey has told me he can do this and that it will meet the
requirements for filing. It is not a terribly difficult thing to do but
it is just easy to use an attorney for anything like this. I do not
bother trying to meet every legal filing
for the little guys. Paying a TPP for
snooping on your customers is just crap. But, what
are you going to do ?
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
I think I'm going to be the first to say this, but
I don't have time to give a crap about calea. I'm
taking advantage of an industry organization to do
something on my behalf, because I can't have the
time to give a crap later when the
I predict the little guy will end up giving all his subs publics and
passing the ball to their upstreams, and probably-most likely for a
price. I find it hard to believe this is not going to be an option.
We'll find out more Thursday when we meet at the Hoover Building in DC
to talk to the
Doom and Gloom eh Mark ? Damn man - the big pessimist (sp?)
JohnnyO
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:04:37 -0800, George Rogato wrote
I predict the little guy will end up giving all his subs publics and
passing the ball to their upstreams, and probably-most likely for a
price. I find it hard to believe this is not going to be an option.
You actually think that the
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:22:12 -0600, JohnnyO wrote
I'm not a pessimist at all. I just know what federal regulation means. It
means WE GO AWAY.
Federal regulation is the DEATH of small business. I have no doubt the
Telcos and Cablecos are no doubt celebrating big time. What they could not
Of wispa
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
I think I'm going to be the first to say this, but
I don't have time to give a crap about calea. I'm
taking advantage of an industry
wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into a
profit center.
Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder up to the feds and
ask them some questions, go for it.
But the
(is that the way it works ? Or do
they still need to provide a subpoena...) ?
Others I'm sure will come up..
R
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: Re: [WISPA] Form 445
wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into a
profit center.
Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder up to the feds and
ask them some questions, go
, February 12, 2007 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Form 445
Ya know Mac, not funny, at the same time, funny.
I think Mark's got a point, albeit dooms-day-ish.
There's no fiscal or physical way small WISPs can comply
with CALEA, and I want to know HOW SPECIFICALLY to do it,
if you think it CAN be done
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Rick,
I've been talking with both the FCC and FBI. It's up in the air yet, but it
looks like calea compliance won't
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:49:52 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time
(or patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA.
How would you provide the hook in so the FBI could just
listen in at any time (is that the way it works ? Or do
they
Rogato
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wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into a
profit center.
Anyways if you want
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:55:19 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote
It's going to be to easy Rick. If everyone will hold their horses
and just trot for a short time they will get everything lined out.
The ability to stream live data is already in place here and it's
cheap. I don't know why it wouldn't be
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:44:20 -0800, George Rogato wrote
wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into
a profit center.
Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder up to the
My only question is if we do not know for sure exactly what we need to be
compliant by 5/14/07 is it smart to sign on the dotted line saying we will
be compliant? Am I missing something?
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
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wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into a
profit center
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Rick Smith wrote:
OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time (or
patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA.
The most difficult thing about the CALEA compliance issue is that
the format of the data has not, yet, been finalized. This makes it
. Schafer
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Rick,
I've been talking with both the FCC and FBI. It's up in the air yet, but it
looks like calea compliance won't be that big of a deal. We'll know much
more after the Thursday meetings our guys
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wispa wrote:
You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, wispa wrote:
This is the FCC declaring that EVERY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BE
PRE-TAPPED at the expense of industry.
WHAT? You are not correct. This is the LEA asking for a means to
collect data on suspected criminals. They will have to have a
subpoena to gather the
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:40:41 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, wispa wrote:
This is the FCC declaring that EVERY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BE
PRE-TAPPED at the expense of industry.
WHAT? You are not correct. This is the LEA asking for a means to
collect data on
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