Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-25 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Apr 23, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Lee, Steven wrote: We also held a bake-off with the big 3 LWAPP vendors. The results showed that these solutions were no better and sometimes worse than what we could achieve with manual tinkering of our IOS AP's. snip We came to a decision that the cost of mo

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-24 Thread Lee H Badman
Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earl Barfield Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:15 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room > Date:Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:06:30 -0400 > From:Lee H Badman &

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-24 Thread Earl Barfield
Date:Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:06:30 -0400 From:Lee H Badman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: many clients, one room Many moons ago when we used Cisco IOS APs for our new WLAN, we would create picocells (knowing that the term means different things to different people) by turning do

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-23 Thread Lee, Steven
The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Many moons ago when we used Cisco IOS APs for our new WLAN,

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-23 Thread Lee H Badman
TSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Thanks for that input. Can you comment on the peak level of sustained throughput, per room; per AP? Are these measured over 5 minute intervals, or some other kind of measurement? I suspect that casual use may in fact work fine

RE: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-23 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Many moons ago when we used Cisco IOS APs for our new WLAN, we

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-23 Thread Philippe Hanset
om: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:52 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room > > John's comments reflect almost

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-23 Thread Jenkins, Matthew
Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Fast forward to LWAPP. We still provision

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-23 Thread Lee H Badman
rv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk - iNAME Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:49 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Can anyone on this list comment on their "dense" experiences with vendors other than Meru (and

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-22 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
es. Regards, Frank -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:52 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room John's commen

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-15 Thread Bruce Curtis
On Apr 11, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Don Wright wrote: I know this has been talked about and debated on this list before, but what are people doing today when faced with a request like the need “for 100 students simultaneously downloading a powerpoint presentation". Recently there was discuss

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread John Center
Hi Sean, We use EAP-TTLS (SecureW2), with a FreeRADIUS back-end. Next Fall, we plan to migrate to PEAP, still using EAP-TTLS for the legacy laptops. -John Sean Che wrote: Hi, John, 250 users off 2 Meru APs that's very impressive. What authentication method do you use ? captive port

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread Sean Che
Monday, April 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Hi Don, We are a Meru customer & we've had great success with their system in our large lecture rooms. On Friday, we had 250 Engineering students taking an exam, which req

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread Frank Bulk
CAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Center Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:48 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Hi Clint, The AP208 have 2 radios, 11a & 11b/g. We have the laptops

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread John Center
age- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Center Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Hi Don, We are a Meru customer & we've had

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread Jason Appah
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Hi Don, We are a Meru customer & we've had great success with their system in our large lecture rooms. On Friday, we had 250 Engineering students taking an exam, which required MathCAD, on 2 Meru AP208s. The exam ran flawles

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread Ringgold, Clint
Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cal Frye Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 5:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Frank Bulk wrote: > I'll let others with production networks pipe in with their experiences. I&#

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread Ringgold, Clint
reat. I'm just saying it is a difference. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Center Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many c

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread John Center
Hi Don, We are a Meru customer & we've had great success with their system in our large lecture rooms. On Friday, we had 250 Engineering students taking an exam, which required MathCAD, on 2 Meru AP208s. The exam ran flawlessly. HTH -John Don Wright wrote: I know this has b

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread Jon Freeman
Jason Appah Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:44 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room I just wish I could get them to call me. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Jon

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-14 Thread Jason Appah
I just wish I could get them to call me. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Jon Freeman Sent: Sat 4/12/2008 1:49 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Added a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-13 Thread Philippe Hanset
I would like to add to Cal's question another one: How well do these tweaking architectures (Meru, Xirrus, etc...) play with neighboring 802.11 networks? (read: the ones that you don't control) 802.11 was designed with the unlicensed spectrum in mind, Meru and Xirrus etc.. are using typical archi

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-12 Thread Cal Frye
Frank Bulk wrote: I’ll let others with production networks pipe in with their experiences. I'm missing this aspect of the current discussion. Does anyone out there have "real-world" experience to confirm or counter Jon's claims for Xirrus? -- Regards, -- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Ober

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-12 Thread Jon Freeman
April 12, 2008 2:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room John: Thanks for responding. Two points: - It's not reasonable to ignore retransmits. One of Meru's key technology strengths is its claim to pseudo-schedul

RE: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-12 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
, April 11, 2008 12:52 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Some math offers insight on this question… Assuming the following: · we’re looking at a single area (i.e. lecture hall), · No retransmits are allowed (not

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread Jon Freeman
ess Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Eyrich Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:18 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What 14 channels are you usin

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread James Eyrich
SS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU | *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room | | | | Based on research and interviews I performed two years ago, it appeared | that for dense client usage in a confined space, Meru was the product | most often implemented. These organizations chose Meru because it |

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread Jon Freeman
rk(tm)...visit us at www.xirrus.com -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilson Dillaway Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:56 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread Wilson Dillaway
t:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Based on research and interviews I performed two years ago, it appeared that for dense client usage in a confined space, Meru was the product most often implemented. These organizations chose Meru because it worked well or better than the comp

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread Jon Freeman
k Bulk Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room Based on research and interviews I performed two years ago, it appeared that for dense client usage in a confined space, Meru was the product most often implement

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread Paynter, Jeffrey
Behalf Of Don Wright Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:59 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room I know this has been talked about and debated on this list before, but what are people doing today when faced with a request like the need "fo

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Bulk
RELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] many clients, one room I know this has been talked about and debated on this list before, but what are people doing today when faced with a request like the need "for 100 students simultaneously downloading a powerpoint presentation&qu

many clients, one room

2008-04-11 Thread Don Wright
I know this has been talked about and debated on this list before, but what are people doing today when faced with a request like the need ³for 100 students simultaneously downloading a powerpoint presentation". Recently there was discussion on MCA vs. SCA vendors and how each handles this