Hey Everyone,
Am I the only one who cares about the question as to when version 6
is coming out? After all, this was the question that started that whole
heated thread that we went through recently...
Stefan
=
Database WebWorks: Dynamic web s
No, you are not alone,
but what do want to hear - Dezember?
Sometime it will come out - perhaps
Christian
Am 29.10.2008 um 15:24 schrieb Stefan Gonick:
Hey Everyone,
Am I the only one who cares about the question as to when version 6
is coming out? After all, this was the question th
no but not sure how Phil could answer that except with a guess.
How long will it take to find all the 3rd part calls in the server and
replace them with an aPI call?
How long will it take lawyers to clear up the open source issues?
Those seem like two unknowns.
I am sure it is in there inte
Hi Stefan,
I thought I started this thread, but yes you
prompted on 10.15.08. In a certain sense it
has elicited some thoughtful discussion on
communication and the importance of the developer
base; on the other hand it's started a 'migration
party' dialogue which should be taken to Robert's
lis
This is subjective, and also it depends on how you measure. After just
a few months working with the Zend Studio I could do any project
faster than I could do in witango, as far as building a prototype. The
only area where I found that I could not match witango is when I had
to build a quic
From: Stefan Gonick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October-29-08 11:25 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6
Hey Everyone,
Am I the only one who cares about the question as to when version 6
is coming out? After all, this was the question that starte
October-29-08 11:25 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6
Hey Everyone,
Am I the only one who cares about the question as to when version 6
is coming out? After all, this was the question that started that
whole
heated thread t
Thanks Robt. This is super great x 10.
Still have not quite gotten a handle on how one implements domain scope
in PHP. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
Mikal Anderson
(503) 534 2858
PDX Programmer.
On 10/29/2008 10:33 AM, Robert Garcia wrote:
This is subjective, and als
Did you post a question in the forum?
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
On Oct
Stefan, I for one would love to have something official as to when v6
will arrive.
Mikal
PDX
On 10/29/2008 7:24 AM, Stefan Gonick wrote:
Hey Everyone,
Am I the only one who cares about the question as to when version 6
is coming out? After all, this was the question that started that whole
Will do.
Mikal
On 10/29/2008 9:30 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:
Did you post a question in the forum?
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PRO
Hi Robert --
Do the comments below pertain to Studio 5.5 or 6? The two versions are
so different that I'm having to go back up the learning curve.
Thanks.
Mikal
On 10/29/2008 10:33 AM, Robert Garcia wrote:
This is subjective, and also it depends on how you measure. After just
a few mont
Do you mean witango studio 5.5 or 6, or Zend? If you mean Zend,
either. I started on 5.5, and now use 6. They are very different,
because 6 uses Eclipse as its framework, but once you get used to
eclipse it is very amazing. If you want to ask more questions on Zend
Studio, you should do so
WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
Th Witango 6 development project is now drawing to a close and in the
coming weeks a full public beta of both studio and server will be
released. The full release of Witango 6 will be accompanied by
significant changes to both pricing and li
> What does "open sourced under its own license" mean?
It sounds like it's released open sourced, but the code isn't under
GPL, BSD or similar licensing, it's under it's own license with it's
own rules.
I wonder what those rules may be? (besides having to pay for licenses
if you use professionall
bDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:42 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I agree with you Robert. The only places I can host Witango apps is on my
own servers. There really are no other alternatives except ma
yeah. I bought the corporate version... $25K. But that was when folks
would pay $200K for a web site.
_
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 03:48
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
y for that
privilage. Now I almost wish I would have purchased individual
licenses... it would have been a lot, LOT cheaper in the end.
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:19 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango
itango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
The thing is, even if the dev studio is great, and cheap, you have
to have places to host your stuff, and there are very few choices,
so devs will have to host themselves more than any other platform.
With .net and ph
work Phil!
Rick
From: GK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-11-08 3:46 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I agree with Robert. The server cost is still a bit high. The
strength of WiTango is the studio. It would be great if it
TECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:19 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
The thing is, even if the dev studio is great, and cheap, you have to have
places to host your stuff, and there are very few choices, so devs will have
t
here (pardon the pun) all
the time! So even though WiTango is the best development platform, people
don't know it's the best. Just my humble opinion.
Rick
From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-11-08 5:42 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Tal
I’ll be interested to see what the new features are, and test the
beta. Good work Phil!
Rick
From: GK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-11-08 3:46 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I agree with Robert. The server cost is st
m: GK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-11-08 3:46 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I agree with Robert. The server cost is still a bit high. The strength of
WiTango is the studio. It would be great if it could export php
Congratulations to the Witango team on this is monumental
accomplishment. I eagerly await the faq and the opportunity to beta
test.
Like Robert (and many others), I look forward to a re-invigorated
community, which I believe (echoing Michael) will rely upon reusable
components (TCFs) for
-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
Th Witango 6 development project is now drawing to a close and in the
coming weeks a full public beta of both studio and server will be
released. The full release of
Hi Phil;
RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
Great stuff and should be a great boost to the Witango Community.
As a classic lurker on the List I am excited to see a common sense response
to the market.
-
I, like everyone else on the list have been staying up nights hatching my
yes - that's the best news of the day!
looking very much forward! :)
Phil Wade wrote:
WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
Th Witango 6 development project is now drawing to a close and in the
coming weeks a full public beta of both studio and server will be
released. The ful
Wow Phil,
Let me be one of the first to congratulate you.
This obviously marks a turning point in Witango's long history, as well as it's
future.
On behalf of myself, thank you for making the effort and commitment you have.
Kudos.
Sincerely,
Scott Cadillac
On Monday, February 11, 2008 8:
Phil,
Thank you for persisting. I look forward getting more information.
So often the devil is in the details.
The details of your own license of course, and the feature set. I am
so intrigued with line by line debuging, wysiwig support and it would
be so nice to be able manage mysql from t
might want to upgrade
to Witango 5.5 or 6, I’ll gladly show you what I offer and give you
an estimate.
Robert
Tronics
From: WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:42 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I
To Phil & the team, well done!
It's been a while coming, but hopefully it will be packed full 'o
features, and well worth the wait. The pricing is certainly welcome.
Regards,
Jason.
On 11/02/2008, at 11:59 PM, Phil Wade wrote:
WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
Th Witango
I think there is argument, over who holds the top spot, but def no
argument who is in the top 3-4.
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL P
did a couple quick searches on google, here are the about results
.php - 10,890,000,000
.asp - 4,240,000,000
.aspx - 1,020,000,000
.jsp - 559,000,000
.taf - 18,400,000
.php extension - 7,820,000
.asp extension - 5,020,000
.aspx extension - 829,000
.jsp extension - 502,000
.taf extension - 158,0
I agree, this is a microsoft based site, which does measure their own
servers...
http://www.contentmetrics.de/WebSurveillant/Web-Server-Statistik.jsp
For Germany the statistic is more different. LAMP Servers are doing
their thing.
What i can offer to the community:
Hosting witango
- Original Message
From: Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:24:01 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
These are great changes, too late for BigHead, but maybe not for
others. I think the
t >
> > it on as many servers as I wanted. Of course you had to pay for that >
> > privilage. Now I almost wish I would have purchased individual
> > licenses... it would have been a lot, LOT cheaper in the end.
> >
> >
> > From: Robert Garcia [mailt
Hi Bill,
> I think the statistics are misleading, though, since by default, every IIS
> installation puts this line in the header:
>
> *x-powered-by:* ASP.NET
>
> You have to go to the trouble of removing it, or else port80 counts it as an
> ASP.NET server.
Actually, this only shows when IIS is
Phil,
A hearty thanks from me also. I know it has been a long hard road. I
still have not found a Framework/IDE that comes even close to
Developer Studio and I am glad to see the update.
I will be happy to Beta test things and look forward to the new
functions.
Thanks again for your zeal
All very wise words Robert,
And thank you for the link.
> http://www.port80software.com/surveys/top1000appservers/
Yup, it looks like I picked a good one 8-)
Scott,
TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer
good points, but this survey methodology is severely flawed.
Entering a .taf page into this survey returns:
It appears that https://obscured/dashboard.taf
is running Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora).
Bill
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:
Without a GROWING, ACTIVE developer base, wi
: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
Th Witango 6 development project is now drawing to a close and in the
coming weeks a full public beta of both studio and server will be
released. The full release of
These are great changes, too late for BigHead, but maybe not for
others. I think the studio price is spot on. I still think the server
should be sub 1000, but just my opinion. Good to see the change to one
machine license.
What does "open sourced under its own license" mean?
--
Robert Gar
Wow! Cool, and smart!
-Original Message-
From: Phil Wade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:59 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
Th Witango 6
I think the statistics are misleading, though, since by default, every IIS
installation puts this line in the header:
*x-powered-by:* ASP.NET
You have to go to the trouble of removing it, or else port80 counts it as an
ASP.NET server.
Bill
On Feb 11, 2008 6:54 PM, Scott Cadillac <[EMAIL PROTECT
WebDude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-11-08 5:42 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I agree with you Robert. The only places I can host Witango apps is
on my own servers. There really are no other alternatives except
maybe a f
Agree, thats why I just kinda dropped it at the end. The point is,
look at where the competition is going. More and more of a commodity,
monetizing through support and other means. And even if witango was
properly reported, we both know it wouldn't be anywhere near the the
app servers shown
s out there, and Robert's
network is full, he won't care if there's WiTango hosting competition.
Witango: Developers wanted.
Rick
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-11-08 6:54 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Ve
the way those searches are, are not going to work as you think they
are, they should be done like this in google:
filetype:php
filetype:aspx
filetype:asp
etc.
When you do that, I think php has a number of around 300million,
and .net (aspx & asp combined) of 400 million.
--
Robert Garcia
And you forgot this one:
.cfm 595,000,000
.cfm extension 556,000
Greater than .jsp, so not to be dismissed!
I'll have to run the stats on our sites for .htm, .php, .taf, .cfm (no .asp
or ,jsp around here!) and report back.
Beverly
P.S. THANKS, PHIL & the rest of the Witango team. :D
On
> I think there is argument, over who holds the top spot, but def no
> argument who is in the top 3-4.
Quite right Robert.
We could argue the technical merits of each until we're blue in the face. But
picking either ASP.NET, Java or PHP will find you work somewhere.
At the end of the day, the c
, 2008 6:02 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
Maybe this is a service WiTango could offer? If they would be willing to
offer WiTango hosting, say if you buy a dev studio you get 3 months free, a
server 6-9 months free depending on the
new successful business in the
automotive industry out of I.T! www.motorcheckup.ca
Regards,
Rick
From: Christian Carrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February-18-08 11:18 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
I realized t
I have sat on the sidelines for quite a while now but assuming that
6.0 works as advertised I may get motivated to bring some old apps up
to snuff.
But I have lost track of the steps that will work to port old apps to
the newer versions.
The old 2.3 to 3.0+ upgrader did not works as s
hese to TAFs first, and then test and debug the conversion
before deploying.
If you have more questions, or need more help, feel free to contact me off list.
Anthony -
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f list.
Anthony -
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I have sat on the sidelines for quite a while now but assumi
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