Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QSO Start & End Times

2017-07-02 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines

2017-07-02 Thread Eric Gruff
Thanks, Greg. I think we all agree that we don't want to see the beta updates no longer made available. May I suggest to all the group users that if we see folks requesting install packages, we offer to help them set up the JTSDK environment on their machines, in the "teach a man to fish" spirit.

[wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines

2017-07-02 Thread Greg Beam
Hello All, Appropriate Use == JTSDK exists to help users build and "test" Joe's software, not distribute it. We all want these fantastic applications, but, we "users" must respect the developers requests. I've received several reports of WSJTX packages built with JTSDK being distrib

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
Thanks John, > I get the same as Joe for the decoding of Tamás’s files. Running r and > Mac OSX 10.11.6 Here’s a summary of what I’ve found so far. I have three machines. Two run OS X and one is a linux box. One of the Macs and the linux box show the smaller DT values that others are seei

Re: [wsjt-devel] Error building on OS X

2017-07-02 Thread Tim Carlson
Hi Everyone, I’m grateful to Bill (G4WJS) for helping me resolve the issue. I’m posting the solution in case anyone else makes the same mistake as I did. The issue was that I downloaded the latest release candidate of CMake, rather than the current release version. After installing 3.8.2 (rat

Re: [wsjt-devel] PSKReporter displayed freq for FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Borja Marcos
> On 2 jul 2017, at 20:34, Lloyd Kirk wrote: > > I noticed that pskreporter is displaying the exact RX freq for jt65/9 signals > but not for FT8. Is this by design? > > It seems to be displaying the frequency that is configured in the > settings->frequencies for that mode in WSJT-X. > > Was

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QSO Start & End Times

2017-07-02 Thread John Nelson
-07-02,19:27,A92AA,LL56,14.080055,FT8,+02,-17,20W,v1.7.1-dev r 10.11,Fawaz Extract from wsjtx_log.adi A92AA LL56 FT8 +02 -17 20170702 1927 20170702 1927 20m 14.080055 G4KLA IO92ak 20W v1.7.1-dev r 10.11 Fawaz — John G4KLA

[wsjt-devel] PSKReporter displayed freq for FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Lloyd Kirk
I noticed that pskreporter is displaying the exact RX freq for jt65/9 signals but not for FT8. Is this by design? It seems to be displaying the frequency that is configured in the settings->frequencies for that mode in WSJT-X. Was just curious. Using r currently. Lloyd Kirk WB5HUP -

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread John Nelson
Steve, I get the same as Joe for the decoding of Tamás’s files. Running r and Mac OSX 10.11.6 — John G4KLA -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! htt

Re: [wsjt-devel] Colors - FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Charles Suckling
Hi Joe Seems to be working fine, learning how to use it now. Charlie -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] Sent: 02 July 2017 19:01 To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Colors - FT8 Hi Kari, > The 'worked before' feature is also not working

Re: [wsjt-devel] Colors - FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Kari, The 'worked before' feature is also not working with FT8. I think this could be fixed by adding test for FT8 on line 105 of "logbook/adif.cpp" Thanks! I believe it's fixed in r. -- Joe, K1JT --

Re: [wsjt-devel] Minimum transmission length for FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Charles Suckling
tnx -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] Sent: 02 July 2017 18:45 To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Minimum transmission length for FT8 Hi Charlie, > What fraction of the transmission is needed for a successful decode > given 'good' S/N?

Re: [wsjt-devel] Minimum transmission length for FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Charlie, What fraction of the transmission is needed for a successful decode given ‘good’ S/N? I’ve seen some “short” messages decode just now (using r7776). The code rate is 1/2, so without AP decoding the bare minimum must be about half a transmission. I've seen done good decodes with

[wsjt-devel] UI Suggestion (not bug!)

2017-07-02 Thread George J Molnar
Is it possible to change the “Disable Tx after sending 73” function to “Disable Tx after logging QSO”? With it checked, we get one 73, which is sometimes not enough. Usually it is. But whenever a QSO is logged, we are -for sure- done with Tx5 and can go on from there, either with a CQ or stop.

[wsjt-devel] Minimum transmission length for FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Charles Suckling
Hi Joe/Steve What fraction of the transmission is needed for a successful decode given 'good' S/N? I've seen some "short" messages decode just now (using r7776). 73 Charlie -- Check out the vibrant tech com

[wsjt-devel] FT8 "AFC"??

2017-07-02 Thread Dave 'Doc' Corio
Does the new FT8 have any sort of built in AFC compensation? Every so often I see a station slowly creeping up the band while in QSO. It looks very much like the way PSK acts when both stations have their AFC control checked and they "chase" each other up or down the band. It will only

Re: [wsjt-devel] Colors - FT8

2017-07-02 Thread Karza
On 07/02/2017 06:14 PM, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote: Running r7775 (Win 7) I've noticed and others have brought to my attention that the colors for new DXCC and new call aren't showing up in the RX window. CQ in Message and My Call in message are working. 73, Jim S. N2ADV The 'worked before

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Dan, you've got it now, hi hi. 73 Bill G4WJS. On 02/07/2017 18:02, Dan Malcolm wrote: Bill, At the moment it’s 1636. Perhaps the light is dawning. Would split mode only shift the Tx frequency in order to keep the audio frequency in bounds, and not to shift if Tx frequency is already in

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem

2017-07-02 Thread Dan Malcolm
I just tested my last reply to you, and it appears I understand "split mode" better. Thanks. From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 11:33 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem On 02/07/2017 17:29, Da

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem

2017-07-02 Thread Dan Malcolm
Bill, At the moment it's 1636. Perhaps the light is dawning. Would split mode only shift the Tx frequency in order to keep the audio frequency in bounds, and not to shift if Tx frequency is already in bounds? From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 1

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/07/2017 17:29, Dan Malcolm wrote: I think I understand, but perhaps I didn’t communicate well. Prior to r7776 the B BFO did the Tx (and A BFO does the Rx) and shifted frequency to 14.078.500 as I expected, in compliance with the recommend split mode setting. Now, Tx still occurs on the B

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem

2017-07-02 Thread Dan Malcolm
Bill, I think I understand, but perhaps I didn't communicate well. Prior to r7776 the B BFO did the Tx (and A BFO does the Rx) and shifted frequency to 14.078.500 as I expected, in compliance with the recommend split mode setting. Now, Tx still occurs on the B VFO, but does not shift to 14.078.5

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Tamás Fábián
Dear Steve and everyone, r7776 decodes the files as Joe described previously, and seems to successfully decode current on-air signals. (I'm using Ubuntu Linux 17.04 "zesty".) Cheers, Tamas HA5FTL 2017-07-02 18:02 GMT+02:00 Steven Franke : > Ah - I should have RTFM. I am not used to using the

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
Now that Bill has fixed the memory issue, it would be interesting to see if we get the same DT values from Tamas’ files when running on Windows and OS X. The decodes that I get from r7776 on my OS X machine are the same as I had before: 130800 -7 0.9 1097 ~ EI4KF ES6DO KO27 --

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/07/2017 17:13, Dan Malcolm wrote: I just compiled r7776 and found that there is a “split” problem. In Settings under the Radio tab I have enabled Rig for Split Operation. I am running Kenwood TS-2000 for the Rig model. That setting has been working well until I compiled the new WSJT-

[wsjt-devel] r7776 Split problem

2017-07-02 Thread Dan Malcolm
I just compiled r7776 and found that there is a "split" problem. In Settings under the Radio tab I have enabled Rig for Split Operation. I am running Kenwood TS-2000 for the Rig model. That setting has been working well until I compiled the new WSJT-X 1.7.1-devel r7776. Prior to this Tx occurre

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
Ah - I should have RTFM. I am not used to using the FFTW library with real-valued input vectors. Thanks! Steve > On Jul 2, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Bill Somerville wrote: > > On 02/07/2017 16:47, Steven Franke wrote: >> So why did you need to add the extra element at the end of cx? > > The real inpu

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/07/2017 16:47, Steven Franke wrote: So why did you need to add the extra element at the end of cx? The real input generates a complex DFT with one extra element sizeof(input)/2 + 1. http://www.fftw.org/fftw3_doc/Real_002ddata-DFT-Array-Format.html#Real_002ddata-DFT-Array-Format 73 Bil

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
Bill - Thank you for finding this! But I still don’t understand what was wrong with the way that the cx array was sized. Surely the size of the original x array (NMAX real elements) is equivalent to the size of the original cx array 2*(NMAX/2) complex elements... I just did this test (using

[wsjt-devel] Colors - FT8

2017-07-02 Thread James Shaver (N2ADV)
Running r7775 (Win 7) I've noticed and others have brought to my attention that the colors for new DXCC and new call aren't showing up in the RX window. CQ in Message and My Call in message are working. 73, Jim S. N2ADV --

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/07/2017 16:06, Bill Somerville wrote: Steve, I didn't fully analyse the issue. Does the c1 vector in ft8_downsample() need to be one longer as well? Hi Steve, ok, I see not as it is complex to complex for the return to time domain. 73 Bill G4WJS. --

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/07/2017 15:41, Bill Somerville wrote: On 02/07/2017 14:28, Tamás Fábián wrote: Dear Steve, I get no decodes with FT8 and r7775. I tried to call CQ and I got an answer, but could not decode that either. (The CQ was heard by multiple stations according to pskreporter.) Five sample reco

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/07/2017 14:28, Tamás Fábián wrote: Dear Steve, I get no decodes with FT8 and r7775. I tried to call CQ and I got an answer, but could not decode that either. (The CQ was heard by multiple stations according to pskreporter.) Five sample recordings are in a .zip under the following url:

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Erik Icket
Hi Tamas, I decoded the same 6 decodes as Steve with build 7774 on Windows. Hope this helps, ON4PB, Erik. -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2017 13:37:21 + From: Steven Franke To: Joe Taylor Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding Message-ID: Content-Typ

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
Another observation. Watching you CQ on 20m now, I am seeing your DT jump between 0.1 and 0.6…. > On Jul 2, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Steven Franke wrote: > > Hi Joe - > The DTs that you got from Tamas’ files on Windows are different than what I > got on OS X. Did you change anything that could expl

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
Hi Joe - The DTs that you got from Tamas’ files on Windows are different than what I got on OS X. Did you change anything that could explain this? If not - this could be connected with the problem that I was having yesterday... Steve > On Jul 2, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Joe Taylor wrote: > > Hi Tama

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Tamas, Your files decode OK here in WSJT-X r7775 (running on Windows). 20m 130800 -7 0.6 1097 ~ EI4KF ES6DO KO27 20m 130815 -12 0.2 1098 ~ ES6DO EI4KF -13 20m 130830 -7 0.6 10

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
Hi Tamas, Your files produce the following decodes on r7775 here: - 6m 130800 -7 0.9 1097 ~ EI4KF ES6DO KO27 - 6m 130815 -12 0.5 1098 ~ ES6DO EI4KF -13 - 6m 130830 -7 0.9 1097 ~ EI4

Re: [wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Tamás Fábián
Dear Steve, I get no decodes with FT8 and r7775. I tried to call CQ and I got an answer, but could not decode that either. (The CQ was heard by multiple stations according to pskreporter.) Five sample recordings are in a .zip under the following url: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgcfehcdwfrp7th/wsj

[wsjt-devel] FT8 - build 7774 - A few GUI suggestions

2017-07-02 Thread Erik Icket
Hi, Can I make a few very ** minor ** GUI suggestions ? 1. Shouldn't we rename the TX even/1st label in JT8 mode to something that explicitly refers to the quarter/kwadrant inside the minute into which we will transmit ? Something like "Start at 0 or 30 secs" ? 2. In the main

[wsjt-devel] r7775 FT8 decoding

2017-07-02 Thread Steven Franke
For future reference, I’ve attached a plot summarizing the performance of the FT8 decoder in r7775. The 50% decoding threshold is at about -21 dB. These results pertain to an AWGN channel (no fading) and were obtained using .wav files generated by ft8sim. Each .wav file contains 25 signals. A to

Re: [wsjt-devel] Error building on OS X

2017-07-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/07/2017 04:41, Tim Carlson wrote: Also, here’s my configuration results: $ FC=gfortran-mp-5 cmake -D CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH="~/Qt3/5.9.1/clang_64;~/hamlib-prefix;/opt/local" -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/wsjtx-prefix -D CMAKE_OSX_SYSROOT=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/P