Re: [Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

Quoting "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > I personally don't see any alternative to overcome > >> > the current problems of XFree. > >> > >> I don't see real problems in XFree, and think that one of the best > >> features of X is the networking capabilities. Indeed, have a look to > h

Re: [Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote: > An effort at a website with tutorials, HOWTO's and other > developer related help information geared at helping NEW > developers get up to scratch on given areas would be very useful > if someone has the time to work on it. I've been writing some > th

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Hello everyone, I don't know if it's the right place to ask such a question. Actually,I am a newbie to linux. I got a problem when I am updating my redhat from 6.2 to 7.3. After the update, I cannot start the Xwindows. I got "fatal IO error 104" every time when I try to do that. Can anybody giv

Re: [Xpert]XFree internal architecture question

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Helge Bahmann wrote: > Hello list! > > Apologies if this is the wrong forum, but I do not know a better place to > post. > > First, let's say that I am trying to do somehting ... "interesting" ... > with the X server. So far understanding most of the architecture has not >

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, José Fonseca wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 01:07:45PM -0700, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > > > On Monday 15 July 2002 01:46, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > [...] > > > >As far as development being stuck, no, I don't think so. It's j

[Xpert]XFree internal architecture question

Hello list! Apologies if this is the wrong forum, but I do not know a better place to post. First, let's say that I am trying to do somehting ... "interesting" ... with the X server. So far understanding most of the architecture has not been too hard thanks to generally very readable coding styl

Re: [Xpert]twinview, xinerama, and KDE 2.2.2

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Dean S. Messing wrote: > > Hello Mark, all. > > Last week I posted a bunch of questions asking why KDE was not acting > in a "xinerama-aware" way. After lots of hours scouring the net and > asking a million questions via various lists, one kind soul from > Mandrake-experts

Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon patch testing

On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 06:40, hy0 wrote: > > > > Not every machine has a BIOS. > In that case, there are a few more things (in addition to panel size) we > need to worry about before it can work reliably. Things like PLL ref clock, > display type ... are all derived from video BIOS image. Yes, I

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 01:07:45PM -0700, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > > On Monday 15 July 2002 01:46, Mark Vojkovich wrote: [...] > > >As far as development being stuck, no, I don't think so. It's just > > > that the people who know enough about anyt

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:32:21AM +0100, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > > > As far as I know the only reason for having the X messaging > > system is the remote display feature. But I guess that less > > than 5% of the XFree users are actually usin

[Xpert]twinview, xinerama, and KDE 2.2.2

Hello Mark, all. Last week I posted a bunch of questions asking why KDE was not acting in a "xinerama-aware" way. After lots of hours scouring the net and asking a million questions via various lists, one kind soul from Mandrake-experts sent me the C code below and said that if my Twinview inst

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

Am Montag, 15. Juli 2002 22:07 schrieben Sie: >     Netscape is much faster than Mozilla.  I think it's just that some > design decisions in the X version of Mozilla, which is probably much > different than the Window's version, are suboptimal.  Having seen enough Well I doubt Mozilla for Windows

RE: [Xpert]i810 driver on the 845 trying to do 848x480

The vbios belongs to the graphics engine. Since Intel graphics chips are part of the chipset our vbios is integrated into the system bios. Any PCI card will have it's own vbios and as long as you choose one that is capable of supporting the 848x480 mode you should be fine. Also, if the chipset i

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > On Monday 15 July 2002 01:46, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > > > Hello, > > > in recent years many people were talking about Linux on the desktop. > > > However, before there is any real chance that this coul

Re: [Xpert]i810 driver on the 845 trying to do 848x480

Sottek, Matthew J wrote: > Tom, > The 830M and 845G chipsets drivers do mode setting through the video > bios in order to support the 3rd party Flat Panel and TV encoders that may > be present in the systems. This probably prevents you from getting the > mode you want. > The i810 and i815 sy

Re: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #2013 - 11 msgs

On 15 Jul 2002, Xavier Bestel wrote: > Le lun 15/07/2002 à 14:20, Mike A. Harris a écrit : > > what you are asking for is the RandR (Resize and Rotate) > > extention. This extension is implemented already, and support > > for it is available in the kdrive X server included with XFree86. > >

RE: [Xpert]i810 driver on the 845 trying to do 848x480

Tom, The 830M and 845G chipsets drivers do mode setting through the video bios in order to support the 3rd party Flat Panel and TV encoders that may be present in the systems. This probably prevents you from getting the mode you want. The i810 and i815 systems program their modes directly, s

[Xpert]i810 driver on the 845 trying to do 848x480

Hi there, I am in some rather desperate need of help. I am trying to get the i810 driver to drive an i845 board at 848x480 (for a plasma screen) and am getting the message that no matching modes are found in my config file, and then it shows a list of modes that bios supports. Is there some way

[Xpert]Cyberblade/i7 low-res modes

Hello, I tried to get my cyberblade/i7 working with low-res modes (320x200) unsuccessfully. My video freqs are ok. I tried to disable DDC and paste modelines from default config but it did not work. I will appreciate any hints. tia, -- Felipe Massia Pereira

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 01:11:17AM +0200, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > Hello, Hi. > in recent years many people were talking about Linux on the desktop. > However, before there is any real chance that this could happen a few > fundamential problems in XFree must be solved. These are: Looks like a n

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

> 2. What is presented on the screen should always be consistent (i.e. > no flickering). This is something I've seem many many times, mostly from people coming from other OS. People claim that opaque move and resize is generally faster with less flickering on other systems. I feel concerned abou

[Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: >> > Hello, >> > in recent years many people were talking about Linux on the desktop. >> > However, before there is any real chance that this could happen a few >> > fundamential problems in XFree must be solved. These are: >> > >> > 1. XFree is far to

Re: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #2013 - 11 msgs

Le lun 15/07/2002 à 14:20, Mike A. Harris a écrit : > what you are asking for is the RandR (Resize and Rotate) > extention. This extension is implemented already, and support > for it is available in the kdrive X server included with XFree86. > The core server simply has not had RandR functio

window move/resize (was: Re: [Xpert]Re: Is the XFree developmentstuck in a dead end?)

Le lun 15/07/2002 à 13:53, Mike A. Harris a écrit : > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > >1. XFree is far too slow. > > What is your metric? XFree86 is slow at what specifically? > Provide some examples. I think what he's talking about is the problem with moving/resizing windows.

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[Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:34:11 +0200 >From: Lukas Molzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >List-Id: General X Discussion >Subject: Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end? > >

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

Reply to the mail from Lukas Molzberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello, > in recent years many people were talking about Linux on the desktop. > However, before there is any real chance that this could happen a few > fundamential problems in XFree must be solved. These are: > > 1. XFree is far to

[Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #2013 - 11 msgs

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Joseph Pingenot wrote: >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:04:39 -0500 >From: Joseph Pingenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >List-Id: General X Discussion >Subject: Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #2013 - 11 msgs > >>From: Lukas Molzbe

[Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Nick Name wrote: >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 02:22:37 +0200 >From: Nick Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >List-Id: General X Discussion >Subject: Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end? > >On 15 Jul 2002 01:56:

[Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On 15 Jul 2002, Xavier Bestel wrote: >Date: 15 Jul 2002 01:56:41 +0200 >From: Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >List-Id: General X Discussion >Subject: Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end? >

[Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Mark Vojkovich wrote: >> I know there have been countless discussions on the X messaging system, but >> most of them missed the point. That is that such a messaging system >> introduces an enormous amount of complexity. As far as I know the only reason >> for having the X me

[Xpert]Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: >Hello, >in recent years many people were talking about Linux on the desktop. >However, before there is any real chance that this could happen a few >fundamential problems in XFree must be solved. These are: > >1. XFree is far too slow. What is your

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

Am Montag, 15. Juli 2002 09:34 schrieben Sie: > > > 2. What is presented on the screen should always be consistent (i.e. > > > no flickering). > > > > It is already? > > No, just move one Window over another or do an opaque window resize and > you'll see artefacts all over the place. Ohh this do

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Monday 15 July 2002 01:46, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > > Hello, > > in recent years many people were talking about Linux on the desktop. > > However, before there is any real chance that this could happen a few > > fundamential problems in XFree must b

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 04:43, James wrote: > > > Someone should write it. Indeed I think there are: I personally use > > > debian, but Mandrake, Suse and RedHat users continuously say that their > > > distribution can do everything graphically. > > > > Better yet, XFree shouldn't need configuratio

X Autoconfig (was Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in adead end?)

Le lun 15/07/2002 à 04:43, James a écrit : > > Better yet, XFree shouldn't need configuration at all with modern > > hardware: config is just needed for some old un-probable chips, and some > > settings such as resolution, depth, etc. (which should be settable on > > the fly, BTW) > > Correct m

Re: [Xpert]S3 Trio 64 V+ Bug Report progress?

I'm having the same problem, and still no reply! Please send reply if you hear anything, this is holding me up, I need x-windows running to monitor my UPS, which could crash my whole system if it doesn't work properly. . . ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #2013 - 11 msgs

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Joseph Pingenot wrote: > I think what he means here is resizing the screen *without* going to a > virtual screensize. One can resize the screen via keys or via a GUI > (e.g. wmxres), but the problem is that it's a *virtual* screen then, > and, instead of acting like a

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote: > As far as I know the only reason for having the X messaging > system is the remote display feature. But I guess that less > than 5% of the XFree users are actually using this feature and > there are already other solutions like VNC available. "Alr

Re: [Xpert]Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?

On Monday 15 July 2002 01:39, Nick Name wrote: > > 1. XFree is far too slow. > > I don't know what your terms of comparison are, but for example "return > to castle wolfenstein" on same hardware runs really faster than on > windows, with maximum settings. Dunno if this means anything. Sorry, I sh