Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: SOA Infrastructure

[Gervas Douglas \(gmail\)]

Keith,   There is billboarding and there is billboarding as Groucho Marx never remarked.  You are one of the members of this Group who has entertained me in the past by pointing out the self-promotion efforts of others whilst being a master of it yourself, if I may so observe [strange phenomenon: all those that protest this sin to me commit it themselves].  As long as it is constructive and in context, i.e. helpful to the discussion in hand, as yours is, then there is no reason for others to object.   Keep up the good work - I for one much appreciate the emanations of your creative intellect.   Gervas ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Harrison-Broninski To: service-orientated-architecture@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: SOA Infrastructure Exactly the "productive new management methodology" Gervas describes is described in detail in my book Human Interactions ("the breakthrough that changes the rules of business" - Peter Fingar, "the overarching framework for 21st century business technology" - bptrends.com, etc - more reviews and other info available online). This is the reason for my personal interest in SOA, btw - my R&D focus is human collaborative work, but I have always thought this field would inevitably converge with SOA via a common management approach - and quite possibly a common toolset.  My recent blog series on BPM futures explains some aspects of what such a toolset may look like. Sorry for the billboarding!  I am not selling products here, though, just showing where to find ideas and free software tools :-) -- All the best Keith http://keith.harrison-broninski.info Gervas Douglas wrote: It occurs to me that there is another advantage to JP's vision which is outside the restricted scope of technology, and that is by viewing each department and individual as a service provider bound by such agreements as service contracts or SLAs, one provides the tools of accountability and therefore a justification for their role. Too often in companies there is a division in perception between revenue contributors and resource consumers. Come a period of financial stress (which at some stage is almost inevitable), the all-powerful CFO proves he is not a boring bean-counter by wielding an axe. Everyone seeing this coming starts getting a bit jittery. Fingers point inevitably at the underperformers (e.g. salespeople who are under-target for the quarter) or resource consumers (e.g. admin. and sometimes marketing). The axe swings. Sometimes it swings counter-productively for the simple reasons that assessments are oftern too short-term and because of a lack of appreciation of the value of roles. I feel that JP's approach could be developed into a productive new management methodology. Hey, and then SOA-as-software could provide the tools to support it. SPONSORED LINKS Computer software Computer aided design software Computer job Soa Service-oriented architecture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "service-orientated-architecture" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.