Hi Jason, carbonic acid, H2CO3, will getcha every time; CO2 right out of the air. So it goes, just trying to help a bit in these difficult times <gg> M.
On Fri, 2015-02-20 at 15:36 -0800, Jason wrote: > Hi Reece: > > It has a lot to do with it, because making EIS should have no impact on pH. > > I test the pH of the distilled water to gauge its quality. Pure water > is pH neutral (7.0). > > I test the pH after brewing, and there should not be a significant change. > > If I start with a Ph of 7.0, and up with a pH of 5.5, then there is a > contamination issue with the process. > > It's just an added extra control to verify quality. > > ~Jason > > > On 2/19/2015 1:33 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: > > I'm treading water as fast as I can, but it is getting too deep for me. > > What does pH have to do with the EIS process? > > Opa > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Feb 19, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Sandra George <oha...@juno.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Neville I have never experienced your situation with the ph meter - > >> immediately thought of the calibration liquid as the possible culprit, > >> however you rinsed well so cannot make any comments - I use either the TDS > >> meter or the PH meter however I never put what I have tested back into > >> anything this goes down the drain - so maybe there is some > >> chemical reaction with some deposit of some sort which was not apparent at > >> the time. > >> Agreed with your statement about what you produce, I feel the same way > >> about mine !!!! > >> Take good care > >> Sandee🐬 > >> Attitude is everything !!! > >> Sandra George > >> Colloidal Silver Products > >> Eye Drops & Topical Gel > >> aliveagai...@yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On 18 Feb 2015, at 21:54, Neville <one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> SOLVED...LOL. Well I believe I've solved it anyway, and I only solved it > >> this morning Dee. > >> > >> Due to recent comments here regarding pH I thought I'd play around and > >> test again with another batch, and within minutes the water turned > >> milky...WHAT THE...??? I knew what was coming next, that dark spot in the > >> centre of the bottom of the vessel the next day. > >> > >> I dug deep into my memory bank and remembered I used a pH meter > >> previously, but like an idiot I returned the test sample back into my brew > >> water prior to starting the brew process - BIG mistake seemingly. > >> > >> On contemplating events I came to the conclusion pH meters somehow > >> contaminate water. I dumped that entire batch down the sink, only about > >> 1200ml, cleaned the vessel out with paper towel and started again using DW > >> straight out of the bottle - perfect, clear and as it should be both > >> during and upon cessation of the brew process. > >> > >> I did however test the pH of the DW out of the bottle, and of course > >> tipped that sample down the sink rather than returning it to the DW I > >> intended to brew, I also tested pH in a batch of EIS that's been in > >> storage for a while. I did calibrate the El Cheapo EBay pH meter > >> according to instructions initially, and then rinsed it several times with > >> DW hoping everything was 'good to go'. > >> > >> Now, I had some samples tested several years ago at an Industrial Complex > >> laboratory, those EIS samples returned readings between 7.4 and 7.8, > >> besides other results I wanted, in a clear, a yellow and an amber or tea > >> coloured solution. > >> > >> I had this mornings batch tested, and an older sample, plus the DW I used > >> for this mornings batch. They used some computer program and ancillary > >> equipment for testing purposes. I labelled them 'A' and 'B', 'B' being > >> this mornings fresh batch, and just took the bottle of DW to them. > >> > >> My DW test out of the bottle with meter for sample 'B', this mornings > >> sample = 6.7 Their test on same DW using their equipment = 6.7, all > >> seems well. > >> > >> I didn't test or document pH of DW in sample 'A' which was an old batch of > >> EIS, but their test on that sample returned 6.8 > >> > >> Sample 'B', this mornings fresh batch returned 7.0, what it will be in a > >> few weeks time I have no idea? > >> > >> I realised this morning that the measuring cup, and the syringe, and the > >> little circular thingy they inserted into the machine they used could have > >> had *anything* in them prior to my tests being performed? I also > >> understood DW would/could vary in quality from batch to batch. This > >> can/could also affect pH readings. Unless one is looking over "someones?" > >> shoulder and ensuring everything is as clean and contaminant free as is > >> possible there is not much point in testing for anything, anywhere? All > >> these facilities and the people working in them have no understanding our > >> product, hence they would not be as pedantic and methodical with things as > >> we would like them to be. > >> > >> So, I'm back to square one in not trusting anything or anyone other than > >> my own visual observations of my product, and my own determinations on > >> same. I have not been disappointed yet, and am satisfied with the quality > >> of my product. > >> > >> I think people can trip up with all the, let's say, "pedantics" of this > >> stuff. I'm not a happy chappy anyway, I'll just stick to what I've been > >> doing for years and leave the rest of it for someone else. If it looks > >> like a quality product, behaves like a quality product, remains visually > >> like a quality product and is seemingly as efficacious as a quality > >> product...Then it *IS* a quality product <g>. > >> > >> When my better half wins that XLotto I may invest in my own personal > >> laboratory, and get someone who knows how to use it to test stuff for me > >> <g>. What we would like and what we can get are two entirely different > >> things. > >> > >> P.S. As a general question for anyone else who may wish to contribute an > >> answer...Why do pH meters seemingly contaminate water? > >> > >> N. > >> > >> Subject: Re: CS>Electrode cleaning? > >> From: d...@deetroy.org > >> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:23:07 +0000 > >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> > >> Same here Neville, I just use paper towel and all the grey comes off > >> nicely in second and I always have clear CS every time. I forgot to ask > >> about your strange phenomena and how it turned out. So it was never > >> really resolved? Cèst là vie! Dee > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On 18 Feb 2015, at 01:21, Neville <one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> It would > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > >> > >> Unsubscribe: > >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > >> Archives: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > >> > >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >> > >> > > > > > >
