Sorry Jason, you had already answered my question. Opa Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 20, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Jason <ja...@eytonsearth.org> wrote: > > Hi Reece: > > It has a lot to do with it, because making EIS should have no impact on pH. > > I test the pH of the distilled water to gauge its quality. Pure water is pH > neutral (7.0). > > I test the pH after brewing, and there should not be a significant change. > > If I start with a Ph of 7.0, and up with a pH of 5.5, then there is a > contamination issue with the process. > > It's just an added extra control to verify quality. > > ~Jason > > >> On 2/19/2015 1:33 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: >> I'm treading water as fast as I can, but it is getting too deep for me. >> What does pH have to do with the EIS process? >> Opa >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Feb 19, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Sandra George <oha...@juno.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Neville I have never experienced your situation with the ph meter - >>> immediately thought of the calibration liquid as the possible culprit, >>> however you rinsed well so cannot make any comments - I use either the TDS >>> meter or the PH meter however I never put what I have tested back into >>> anything this goes down the drain - so maybe there is some >>> chemical reaction with some deposit of some sort which was not apparent at >>> the time. >>> Agreed with your statement about what you produce, I feel the same way >>> about mine !!!! >>> Take good care >>> Sandee🐬 >>> Attitude is everything !!! >>> Sandra George >>> Colloidal Silver Products >>> Eye Drops & Topical Gel >>> aliveagai...@yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 21:54, Neville <one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> SOLVED...LOL. Well I believe I've solved it anyway, and I only solved it >>> this morning Dee. >>> >>> Due to recent comments here regarding pH I thought I'd play around and test >>> again with another batch, and within minutes the water turned milky...WHAT >>> THE...??? I knew what was coming next, that dark spot in the centre of the >>> bottom of the vessel the next day. >>> >>> I dug deep into my memory bank and remembered I used a pH meter previously, >>> but like an idiot I returned the test sample back into my brew water prior >>> to starting the brew process - BIG mistake seemingly. >>> >>> On contemplating events I came to the conclusion pH meters somehow >>> contaminate water. I dumped that entire batch down the sink, only about >>> 1200ml, cleaned the vessel out with paper towel and started again using DW >>> straight out of the bottle - perfect, clear and as it should be both during >>> and upon cessation of the brew process. >>> >>> I did however test the pH of the DW out of the bottle, and of course tipped >>> that sample down the sink rather than returning it to the DW I intended to >>> brew, I also tested pH in a batch of EIS that's been in storage for a >>> while. I did calibrate the El Cheapo EBay pH meter according to >>> instructions initially, and then rinsed it several times with DW hoping >>> everything was 'good to go'. >>> >>> Now, I had some samples tested several years ago at an Industrial Complex >>> laboratory, those EIS samples returned readings between 7.4 and 7.8, >>> besides other results I wanted, in a clear, a yellow and an amber or tea >>> coloured solution. >>> >>> I had this mornings batch tested, and an older sample, plus the DW I used >>> for this mornings batch. They used some computer program and ancillary >>> equipment for testing purposes. I labelled them 'A' and 'B', 'B' being >>> this mornings fresh batch, and just took the bottle of DW to them. >>> >>> My DW test out of the bottle with meter for sample 'B', this mornings >>> sample = 6.7 Their test on same DW using their equipment = 6.7, all seems >>> well. >>> >>> I didn't test or document pH of DW in sample 'A' which was an old batch of >>> EIS, but their test on that sample returned 6.8 >>> >>> Sample 'B', this mornings fresh batch returned 7.0, what it will be in a >>> few weeks time I have no idea? >>> >>> I realised this morning that the measuring cup, and the syringe, and the >>> little circular thingy they inserted into the machine they used could have >>> had *anything* in them prior to my tests being performed? I also >>> understood DW would/could vary in quality from batch to batch. This >>> can/could also affect pH readings. Unless one is looking over "someones?" >>> shoulder and ensuring everything is as clean and contaminant free as is >>> possible there is not much point in testing for anything, anywhere? All >>> these facilities and the people working in them have no understanding our >>> product, hence they would not be as pedantic and methodical with things as >>> we would like them to be. >>> >>> So, I'm back to square one in not trusting anything or anyone other than my >>> own visual observations of my product, and my own determinations on same. >>> I have not been disappointed yet, and am satisfied with the quality of my >>> product. >>> >>> I think people can trip up with all the, let's say, "pedantics" of this >>> stuff. I'm not a happy chappy anyway, I'll just stick to what I've been >>> doing for years and leave the rest of it for someone else. If it looks >>> like a quality product, behaves like a quality product, remains visually >>> like a quality product and is seemingly as efficacious as a quality >>> product...Then it *IS* a quality product <g>. >>> >>> When my better half wins that XLotto I may invest in my own personal >>> laboratory, and get someone who knows how to use it to test stuff for me >>> <g>. What we would like and what we can get are two entirely different >>> things. >>> >>> P.S. As a general question for anyone else who may wish to contribute an >>> answer...Why do pH meters seemingly contaminate water? >>> >>> N. >>> >>> Subject: Re: CS>Electrode cleaning? >>> From: d...@deetroy.org >>> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:23:07 +0000 >>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> >>> Same here Neville, I just use paper towel and all the grey comes off nicely >>> in second and I always have clear CS every time. I forgot to ask about >>> your strange phenomena and how it turned out. So it was never really >>> resolved? Cèst là vie! Dee >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 01:21, Neville <one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> It would >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >>> Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>> >>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >>> >>> >> >> >
