Let's Simmer it down a bit, I'd as soon as not we eat each other over AD, there are good people on the list.
Except Mirko, Mirko is terrible :P (love ya Mirko !) On 12 July 2015 at 15:29, Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote: > nobody thinks that SI will get back, but 10, 15 or more years of > experience you cannot replace with something just that fast. > you can relearn some new software and play with anything else but you will > hardly get to the point of usability with it any time soon... > > so it is HUGE step back for all SI users. > > just figure one day someone come to you at your home, demolish everything, > home car everything and say ok start from ground up now... > what you build your home once you know how to do it it will be faster now > now start. > > no, negativity about AD will no t go away, ranting about killing SI will > not go away at least for the time being > > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mario Reitbauer < > cont...@marioreitbauer.at> wrote: > >> Well there's one statement which just describes it: >> "get it when you need it" or just don't get it. >> >> I really think of leaving this mailing list cause most topics are about >> ranting about Autodesk. >> At least I don't give a shit about their campaigns, about their products >> or about anything they do. >> I use what I need to use to do my job and if Software A isn't there >> anymore I use Software B which will get me a job. >> >> It's about time to get over that whole Softimage EOL topic and move on. >> Clear your mind and get rid of the negativ thinking. >> There are quite some tools out there which are worth learning. No sense >> in keeping the negativ spirit up. Softimage won't come back, Autodesk won't >> change (they probably gonna become worse). >> >> 2015-07-12 14:45 GMT+02:00 Juan Brockhaus <juanxsil...@gmail.com>: >> >>> regardless to whom this campaign is targeted to... >>> it is an insult to any professional out there working in this industry. >>> >>> even when you just read the facts of the campaign and trying to keep any >>> emotions aside... >>> and ignoring anything you know about Maya and it's real performance, >>> workflow, usability etc... >>> >>> - talking about weeks, but you can rent only per month... >>> - $4.17 a day is based on year subscription... which completely >>> contradicts the whole 'get it when needed' statement... >>> - 'awesomeness', 'join the movement', 'equals an hour of your time' >>> (???), etc... etc... >>> >>> ... >>> speechless... >>> ...and don't get me stated on the cheaply produced video... >>> ... >>> >>> hey, but maybe someone from Fabric, foundry, SideFX, etc infiltrated the >>> Autodesk marketing team and was able to get this campaign out there... >>> LOL ;-) >>> >>> ... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Tim Leydecker <bauero...@gmx.de> wrote: >>> >>>> For taking up a fight with Cinema 4D, Maya needs a serious crashcourse >>>> and lose some excess wheight. >>>> >>>> I have collegues do stuff in Cinema 4D, anything from dynamics, >>>> multiple projections, "just" rendering smoke with Arnold, >>>> painting textures in Bodypaint and playing with *.psd layers and >>>> layered shaders without bothering much. >>>> >>>> Umhh, sitting close by, debugging a polygon mesh in Maya 2015sp6Ext1 >>>> node editor that still has connections to the >>>> initial shading group even if it shouldn´t, finding out that >>>> renderlayers are suddenly breaking when switching to >>>> another render layer, loosing hair about Maya´s own layered >>>> texture/layered shader, constantly on the edge of >>>> my seat for not knowing if Maya will last me through this prolonged >>>> session or not doesn´t feel like it´s time for flip flops. >>>> >>>> I´ve started with Maya somewhere around Maya 1.5 / Maya 3.5 /Maya 4. At >>>> least 10 years of trying to keep a stiff upper lip, >>>> wading through deep shit and hoping for the best. Years lost with >>>> running into stupid limitations and trying to soldier on. >>>> >>>> I want my life back. >>>> >>>> If I wake up on the couch, it´s because I didn´t make it to the bed >>>> after another exhausting Maya session fighting the program, >>>> not solving my task. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> tim >>>> >>>> P.S: That´s why I don´t want to commit to Autodesk, not because I fancy >>>> being a spoiled, irresponsible single child brat showing off my >>>> sneakers, mac book, blog and life style, sneering at anyone who doesn´t >>>> fit my style googles. Even beer googles are more human... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 11.07.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Jordi Bares Dominguez: >>>> >>>> It’s clearly targeted to the Cinema4D crowd obviously, designers and >>>> kind of 1 man band artist/designers/directors running on a laptop and >>>> darting through london on a uber expensive bicycle. >>>> >>>> The problem is that these guys have a great tool in their hands and >>>> its connection with After Effects is difficult to beat so I see it as a >>>> very uninformed marketing campaign. >>>> >>>> But may be I am wrong and they are going to sell these to my >>>> mother-in-law too so she can do some dinosaurs and get rich. >>>> jb >>>> >>>> On 11 Jul 2015, at 18:07, Steven Caron < <car...@gmail.com> >>>> car...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> BUT carpenters do rent some tools... not their core tools but >>>> typically the larger more expensive tools. Maybe this campaign is not for >>>> us. ie. The people who use 3d tools everyday. Maybe the people that never >>>> have used 3d tools before are the focus of this campaign. My colleagues and >>>> I have discussed this a bit and this is one of the conclusions we came to. >>>> This is a play designed for getting new customers and new revenue, mostly. >>>> >>>> I still think this is campaign is completely silly, but I can say I am >>>> honestly not surprised. >>>> >>>> *written with my thumbs >>>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2015 8:36 AM, "Sebastien Sterling" < >>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > It would be so easy to write them off a idiots >>>> > >>>> > DCC are TOOLS in nature, they are selling them as a service, which is >>>> fundamentally incompatible. >>>> > >>>> > As a carpenter you don't rent a hammer or a tool belt, not if it is >>>> your business, that is insane. >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------ >> cont...@marioreitbauer.com >> 0049 (0)157 86272215 >> Professor-Brix-Weg 9 >> 22767 Hamburg >> ------------------------------------------ >> > >
