"and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)"

No Kev this is marketed towards "New users" don't question their logic !

This is about getting as many New people on as possible :P

On 13 July 2015 at 15:46, Kevin mc bride <kev....@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> "and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)"
> 2008 the last time Maya had a useful release?
>
>
>
> On 13 July 2015 at 15:42, Mladen Kevic <mladen.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ok they math is not right :)
>>
>> "Because you can afford $4.17 a day. Honestly, you probably spend more
>> than that on coffee." by they calculations we don't work just 52 weeks per
>> year, they included weekends as well :)
>>
>>
>> and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Mirko Jankovic <
>> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yea I'm the worst kid in the neighborhood, cant help it ;)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Sebastien Sterling <
>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let's Simmer it down a bit, I'd as soon as not we eat each other over
>>>> AD, there are good people on the list.
>>>>
>>>> Except Mirko, Mirko is terrible :P
>>>>
>>>> (love ya Mirko !)
>>>>
>>>> On 12 July 2015 at 15:29, Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> nobody thinks that SI will get back, but 10, 15 or more years of
>>>>> experience you cannot replace with something just that fast.
>>>>> you can relearn some new software and play with anything else but you
>>>>> will hardly get to the point of usability with it any time soon...
>>>>>
>>>>> so it is HUGE step back for all SI users.
>>>>>
>>>>> just figure one day someone come to you at your home, demolish
>>>>> everything, home car everything and say ok start from ground up now...
>>>>> what you build your home once you know how to do it it will be faster
>>>>> now now start.
>>>>>
>>>>> no, negativity about AD will no t go away, ranting about killing SI
>>>>> will not go away at least for the time being
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mario Reitbauer <
>>>>> cont...@marioreitbauer.at> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well there's one statement which just describes it:
>>>>>> "get it when you need it" or just don't get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really think of leaving this mailing list cause most topics are
>>>>>> about ranting about Autodesk.
>>>>>> At least I don't give a shit about their campaigns,
>>>>>> about their products or about anything they do.
>>>>>> I use what I need to use to do my job and if Software A isn't there
>>>>>> anymore I use Software B which will get me a job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's about time to get over that whole Softimage EOL topic and move
>>>>>> on. Clear your mind and get rid of the negativ thinking.
>>>>>> There are quite some tools out there which are worth learning. No
>>>>>> sense in keeping the negativ spirit up. Softimage won't come back, 
>>>>>> Autodesk
>>>>>> won't change (they probably gonna become worse).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-07-12 14:45 GMT+02:00 Juan Brockhaus <juanxsil...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regardless to whom this campaign is targeted to...
>>>>>>> it is an insult to any professional out there working in this
>>>>>>> industry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> even when you just read the facts of the campaign and trying to keep
>>>>>>> any emotions aside...
>>>>>>> and ignoring anything you know about Maya and it's real performance,
>>>>>>> workflow, usability etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - talking about weeks, but you can rent only per month...
>>>>>>> - $4.17 a day is based on year subscription... which completely
>>>>>>> contradicts the whole 'get it when needed' statement...
>>>>>>> - 'awesomeness', 'join the movement', 'equals an hour of your time'
>>>>>>> (???), etc... etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> speechless...
>>>>>>> ...and don't get me stated on the cheaply produced video...
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey, but maybe someone from Fabric, foundry, SideFX, etc infiltrated
>>>>>>> the Autodesk marketing team and was able to get this campaign out 
>>>>>>> there...
>>>>>>> LOL ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Tim Leydecker <bauero...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  For taking up a fight with Cinema 4D, Maya needs a serious
>>>>>>>> crashcourse and lose some excess wheight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have collegues do stuff in Cinema 4D, anything from dynamics,
>>>>>>>> multiple projections, "just" rendering smoke with Arnold,
>>>>>>>> painting textures in Bodypaint and playing with *.psd layers and
>>>>>>>> layered shaders without bothering much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Umhh, sitting close by, debugging a polygon mesh in Maya
>>>>>>>> 2015sp6Ext1 node editor that still has connections to the
>>>>>>>> initial shading group even if it shouldn´t, finding out that
>>>>>>>> renderlayers are suddenly breaking when switching to
>>>>>>>> another render layer, loosing hair about Maya´s own layered
>>>>>>>> texture/layered shader, constantly on the edge of
>>>>>>>> my seat for not knowing if Maya will last me through this prolonged
>>>>>>>> session or not doesn´t feel like it´s time for flip flops.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I´ve started with Maya somewhere around Maya 1.5 / Maya 3.5 /Maya
>>>>>>>> 4. At least 10 years of trying to keep a stiff upper lip,
>>>>>>>> wading through deep shit and hoping for the best. Years lost with
>>>>>>>> running into stupid limitations and trying to soldier on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want my life back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I wake up on the couch, it´s because I didn´t make it to the bed
>>>>>>>> after another exhausting Maya session fighting the program,
>>>>>>>> not solving my task.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S: That´s why I don´t want to commit to Autodesk, not because I
>>>>>>>> fancy being a spoiled, irresponsible single child brat showing off my
>>>>>>>> sneakers, mac book, blog and life style, sneering at anyone who
>>>>>>>> doesn´t fit my style googles. Even beer googles are more human...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 11.07.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Jordi Bares Dominguez:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It’s clearly targeted to the Cinema4D crowd obviously, designers
>>>>>>>> and kind of 1 man band artist/designers/directors running on a laptop 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> darting through london on a uber expensive bicycle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  The problem is that these guys have a great tool in their hands
>>>>>>>> and its connection with After Effects is difficult to beat so I see it 
>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>> very uninformed marketing campaign.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  But may be I am wrong and they are going to sell these to my
>>>>>>>> mother-in-law too so she can do some dinosaurs and get rich.
>>>>>>>> jb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 11 Jul 2015, at 18:07, Steven Caron < <car...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> car...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  BUT carpenters do rent some tools... not their core tools but
>>>>>>>> typically the larger more expensive tools. Maybe this campaign is not 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> us. ie. The people who use 3d tools everyday. Maybe the people that 
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> have used 3d tools before are the focus of this campaign. My 
>>>>>>>> colleagues and
>>>>>>>> I have discussed this a bit and this is one of the conclusions we came 
>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>> This is a play designed for getting new customers and new revenue, 
>>>>>>>> mostly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still think this is campaign is completely silly, but I can say I
>>>>>>>> am honestly not surprised.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *written with my thumbs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2015 8:36 AM, "Sebastien Sterling" <
>>>>>>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > It would be so easy to write them off a idiots
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > DCC are TOOLS in nature, they are selling them as a service,
>>>>>>>> which is fundamentally incompatible.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > As a carpenter you don't rent a hammer or a tool belt, not if it
>>>>>>>> is your business, that is insane.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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