"and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)"
No Kev this is marketed towards "New users" don't question their logic ! This is about getting as many New people on as possible :P On 13 July 2015 at 15:46, Kevin mc bride <kev....@gmail.com> wrote: > > "and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)" > 2008 the last time Maya had a useful release? > > > > On 13 July 2015 at 15:42, Mladen Kevic <mladen.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ok they math is not right :) >> >> "Because you can afford $4.17 a day. Honestly, you probably spend more >> than that on coffee." by they calculations we don't work just 52 weeks per >> year, they included weekends as well :) >> >> >> and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :) >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Mirko Jankovic < >> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> yea I'm the worst kid in the neighborhood, cant help it ;) >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Sebastien Sterling < >>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Let's Simmer it down a bit, I'd as soon as not we eat each other over >>>> AD, there are good people on the list. >>>> >>>> Except Mirko, Mirko is terrible :P >>>> >>>> (love ya Mirko !) >>>> >>>> On 12 July 2015 at 15:29, Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> nobody thinks that SI will get back, but 10, 15 or more years of >>>>> experience you cannot replace with something just that fast. >>>>> you can relearn some new software and play with anything else but you >>>>> will hardly get to the point of usability with it any time soon... >>>>> >>>>> so it is HUGE step back for all SI users. >>>>> >>>>> just figure one day someone come to you at your home, demolish >>>>> everything, home car everything and say ok start from ground up now... >>>>> what you build your home once you know how to do it it will be faster >>>>> now now start. >>>>> >>>>> no, negativity about AD will no t go away, ranting about killing SI >>>>> will not go away at least for the time being >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mario Reitbauer < >>>>> cont...@marioreitbauer.at> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well there's one statement which just describes it: >>>>>> "get it when you need it" or just don't get it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I really think of leaving this mailing list cause most topics are >>>>>> about ranting about Autodesk. >>>>>> At least I don't give a shit about their campaigns, >>>>>> about their products or about anything they do. >>>>>> I use what I need to use to do my job and if Software A isn't there >>>>>> anymore I use Software B which will get me a job. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's about time to get over that whole Softimage EOL topic and move >>>>>> on. Clear your mind and get rid of the negativ thinking. >>>>>> There are quite some tools out there which are worth learning. No >>>>>> sense in keeping the negativ spirit up. Softimage won't come back, >>>>>> Autodesk >>>>>> won't change (they probably gonna become worse). >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-07-12 14:45 GMT+02:00 Juan Brockhaus <juanxsil...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> regardless to whom this campaign is targeted to... >>>>>>> it is an insult to any professional out there working in this >>>>>>> industry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> even when you just read the facts of the campaign and trying to keep >>>>>>> any emotions aside... >>>>>>> and ignoring anything you know about Maya and it's real performance, >>>>>>> workflow, usability etc... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - talking about weeks, but you can rent only per month... >>>>>>> - $4.17 a day is based on year subscription... which completely >>>>>>> contradicts the whole 'get it when needed' statement... >>>>>>> - 'awesomeness', 'join the movement', 'equals an hour of your time' >>>>>>> (???), etc... etc... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> speechless... >>>>>>> ...and don't get me stated on the cheaply produced video... >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hey, but maybe someone from Fabric, foundry, SideFX, etc infiltrated >>>>>>> the Autodesk marketing team and was able to get this campaign out >>>>>>> there... >>>>>>> LOL ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Tim Leydecker <bauero...@gmx.de> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For taking up a fight with Cinema 4D, Maya needs a serious >>>>>>>> crashcourse and lose some excess wheight. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have collegues do stuff in Cinema 4D, anything from dynamics, >>>>>>>> multiple projections, "just" rendering smoke with Arnold, >>>>>>>> painting textures in Bodypaint and playing with *.psd layers and >>>>>>>> layered shaders without bothering much. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Umhh, sitting close by, debugging a polygon mesh in Maya >>>>>>>> 2015sp6Ext1 node editor that still has connections to the >>>>>>>> initial shading group even if it shouldn´t, finding out that >>>>>>>> renderlayers are suddenly breaking when switching to >>>>>>>> another render layer, loosing hair about Maya´s own layered >>>>>>>> texture/layered shader, constantly on the edge of >>>>>>>> my seat for not knowing if Maya will last me through this prolonged >>>>>>>> session or not doesn´t feel like it´s time for flip flops. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I´ve started with Maya somewhere around Maya 1.5 / Maya 3.5 /Maya >>>>>>>> 4. At least 10 years of trying to keep a stiff upper lip, >>>>>>>> wading through deep shit and hoping for the best. Years lost with >>>>>>>> running into stupid limitations and trying to soldier on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want my life back. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I wake up on the couch, it´s because I didn´t make it to the bed >>>>>>>> after another exhausting Maya session fighting the program, >>>>>>>> not solving my task. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P.S: That´s why I don´t want to commit to Autodesk, not because I >>>>>>>> fancy being a spoiled, irresponsible single child brat showing off my >>>>>>>> sneakers, mac book, blog and life style, sneering at anyone who >>>>>>>> doesn´t fit my style googles. Even beer googles are more human... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 11.07.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Jordi Bares Dominguez: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It’s clearly targeted to the Cinema4D crowd obviously, designers >>>>>>>> and kind of 1 man band artist/designers/directors running on a laptop >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> darting through london on a uber expensive bicycle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The problem is that these guys have a great tool in their hands >>>>>>>> and its connection with After Effects is difficult to beat so I see it >>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>> very uninformed marketing campaign. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But may be I am wrong and they are going to sell these to my >>>>>>>> mother-in-law too so she can do some dinosaurs and get rich. >>>>>>>> jb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11 Jul 2015, at 18:07, Steven Caron < <car...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> car...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BUT carpenters do rent some tools... not their core tools but >>>>>>>> typically the larger more expensive tools. Maybe this campaign is not >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> us. ie. The people who use 3d tools everyday. Maybe the people that >>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>> have used 3d tools before are the focus of this campaign. My >>>>>>>> colleagues and >>>>>>>> I have discussed this a bit and this is one of the conclusions we came >>>>>>>> to. >>>>>>>> This is a play designed for getting new customers and new revenue, >>>>>>>> mostly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still think this is campaign is completely silly, but I can say I >>>>>>>> am honestly not surprised. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *written with my thumbs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2015 8:36 AM, "Sebastien Sterling" < >>>>>>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > It would be so easy to write them off a idiots >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > DCC are TOOLS in nature, they are selling them as a service, >>>>>>>> which is fundamentally incompatible. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > As a carpenter you don't rent a hammer or a tool belt, not if it >>>>>>>> is your business, that is insane. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>> cont...@marioreitbauer.com >>>>>> 0049 (0)157 86272215 >>>>>> Professor-Brix-Weg 9 >>>>>> 22767 Hamburg >>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >