Ray, Apparently the architect, on the owner's behalf, hired an engineering firm to determine the design requirements of the sprinkler protection. That firm seems to have done less than a complete job. I'd put this on them since it's this kind of stuff (design) they got paid to do. The engineers have made a big deal out of who does what. Make them do what they insist is their work. (Me wearing my engineering tech hat.)
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Ray Vance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Todd. > > I have already gone down that path and the client is in the process of > getting the MSDS sheets for us. > We have been given a set of "design documents" from an engineering firm > indicating an area/density requirement, but no information was given as to > the storage height, storage arrangement, commodity classification, building > height, clearances, container types or sizes, etc. so an informed decision > can be made relating to the appropriate protection scheme. > > Fortunately, the containment requirements of NFPA 434 have been addressed, > but the fire protection portion is definitely lacking in sufficient detail to > determine an adequate direction. > > Ray Vance - SET > Chief Sales Designer > Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc. > www.waynefire.com > (407) 877-5563 office > (321) 436-2184 cell > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Williams > - FPDC > Sent: 2008-10-16 11:39 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Pesticides Storage > > Ray, Get MSDS's on the stuff and see exactly what you are dealing with. > > > > At 11:29 AM 10/16/2008, you wrote: >>Esteemed Collegues: >> >>Can anyone give guidance on a Pesticides Storage warehouse and the >>approriate fire protection requirements? >>NFPA-434 doesn't give prescriptove requiremetns or a definitive path to >>follow. It only indicates a risk analysis be done by a "competent >>individual" (I read PE or FPE) to determine the extent and type of fire >>protection to be provide. >> >>Without regard to storage arrangement and heights, what TYPE of >>commodity would be appropriate to consider, since the amount stored is >>over 10,000 lbs and is extermely varied in the types and configurations >>of products to be stored? >>I am leaning towards NFPA-30 "Flammable and Combustible Liquids" to >>begin my analysis, but would like the opinions of anyone who has had >>experience with this process. >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >>Ray Vance -SET >>Chief Sales Designer >>Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc. >>www.waynefire.com<blocked::blocked::http://www.waynefire.com/> >>(407) 877-5563 office >>(321) 436-2184 cell >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>To Unsubscribe, send an email >>to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > Todd G. Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, Connecticut > www.fpdc.com > 860.535.2080 > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
