Contaiment and retention are part of the overall hazards analysis.  I was not 
about to perform such a comprehensive task here on the board, just providing a 
starting point.  If the person attempting to perform a hazards analtsis is not 
familiar with the broad scope of such an effort then they don't need to start.  
Find someone experienced in doing these in depth analysis' and pay them to do 
the job.  A real comprehensive Hazards Analysis isn't something you can do in a 
few minutes or even hours in some cases and certainly can't cover in depth on a 
forum a such as this.

Besides, like it or not, for most applications where toxics or highly tocics 
are used or stored,  water based sprinklers are the norm and no special 
containment or retention is generally called for.  Not in every case but in 
most.  The premise being that these chemicals are not going to be a player in 
the fire part of the incident and most likely will be diluted to a point where 
they are no longer hazardous.  BUT and again I say BUT, you need to consult the 
MSDS information as this is often addressed and look at CFR regs., local codes, 
Department of Health/Environment services or whatever your local agency may be 
called and find out if there are special considerations.



Craig Prahl
864-599-4102

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And when you put water on the Haz Mat chemicals what do you end up with?
How is the resulting liquid Haz Mat going to be dealt with?  Dykes,
underground tanks, just let it run into the storm drains, hope it
evaporates?

Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc


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Ray,

First in order to do any kind of analysis you need MSDS on ALL of the
products to be stored, then you need to know what kind of conatiners, if
they are racked or palletized, how high and how much.  Do you have a rack or
storage arrangement plan?  I assume you already know the building
construction characteristics?

Don't assume that NFPA 30 will be the only place to look.  Flammables and
combustible liquids will probably be the least of any commodity when it
comes to pesticides.  Mostly you'll be dealing with toxics and highly toxics
which don't have a big impact on the fire protection systems in and of
themselves but they do have major impact on other systems which could in
turn affect your installation, such as ductwork (obstructions).   Toxics are
addressed in the Building Code as far as allowable quantities in reference
to occupancy classifications.  Most likely you will be dealing with an "H"
Occupancy.




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