Ray,

First in order to do any kind of analysis you need MSDS on ALL of the products 
to be stored, then you need to know what kind of conatiners, if they are racked 
or palletized, how high and how much.  Do you have a rack or storage 
arrangement plan?  I assume you already know the building construction 
characteristics?

Don't assume that NFPA 30 will be the only place to look.  Flammables and 
combustible liquids will probably be the least of any commodity when it comes 
to pesticides.  Mostly you'll be dealing with toxics and highly toxics which 
don't have a big impact on the fire protection systems in and of  themselves 
but they do have major impact on other systems which could in turn affect your 
installation, such as ductwork (obstructions).   Toxics are addressed in the 
Building Code as far as allowable quantities in reference to occupancy 
classifications.  Most likely you will be dealing with an "H" Occupancy.

You do need to consider combustible dust as one possibility, but again, that 
results in little change to sprinklers.

Also know that for some items there maybe Federal and\or State guidelines (CFR) 
related to the storage and handling.  But once again, for toxics there is 
little impact on fire protecton.

All these issues SHOULD have been addressed by the EOR.

On my designs I usually like to list the oddities if there is an area that is a 
bit out of the norm so that the contractor knows what drove the odd 
requirements.  It helps clear up questions for him and also for the revewing 
AHJ down the road.

The biggest impact that could result from a proper analysis would be changing 
the density based on plastic storage containers, in-racks versus none just as a 
few items.  Also watch for pallet storage, wood and\or plastic.  Plastic 
pallets pose an issue by themselves.

What could have greater impact would be building construction for explosion 
relief and explosion resistant construction (keep this in mind when locating 
things like risers and standpipes, best to try and locate them away from the 
middle of a relief panel),  HVAC, electrically classified components (this 
could impact you in relation to flows and tamper switches, etc.)

Craig Prahl, CET
864-599-4102

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Subject: Pesticides Storage

Esteemed Collegues:

Can anyone give guidance on a Pesticides Storage warehouse and the approriate 
fire protection requirements?
NFPA-434 doesn't give prescriptove requiremetns or a definitive path to follow. 
It only indicates a risk analysis be done by a "competent individual" (I read 
PE or FPE) to determine the extent and type of fire protection to be provide.

Without regard to storage arrangement and heights, what TYPE of commodity would 
be appropriate to consider, since the amount stored is over 10,000 lbs and is 
extermely varied in the types and configurations of products to be stored?
I am leaning towards NFPA-30 "Flammable and Combustible Liquids" to begin my 
analysis, but would like the opinions of anyone who has had experience with 
this process.

Thanks in advance,

Ray Vance -SET
Chief Sales Designer
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
www.waynefire.com<blocked::blocked::http://www.waynefire.com/>
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