But a sprinklered pocket is not an unprotected pocket

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From: Pielow, Robert [mailto:robert.pie...@hdrinc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:09 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org; bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com
Subject: RE: skylights vs. ceiling pockets

Creative thinking Brad, but I think all three would need sprinklers.  I do
not think a sprinklered pocket within 10 feet is the same as no pocket
within 10 feet.

Robert J. Pielow, P.E.
Fire Protection & Life Safety



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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:05 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: skylights vs. ceiling pockets

And by the way-- say you have 3 skylights, 3' square, at 9' c-c, those
skylights would need to be sprinklered, right? Wrong-- only the middle one
needs a head, bcoz now the other 2 are separated by at least 10' from any
other unprotected ceiling pocket! (2010 clarifies)

-----Original Message-----
From: Pielow, Robert [mailto:robert.pie...@hdrinc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:53 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: skylights vs. ceiling pockets

I do not believe NFPA 13 requires a sprinkler in either a pocket or skylight
that meet the prescribed limitations on size and dimension.  The recesses
are required to be separated by at least 10 feet so any delay caused by the
height of the pocket would not have an impact.  The sprinkler handbook
provides a good description of this condition.  It references skylights or
"similar pockets".

Robert J. Pielow, P.E.


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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Richardson, R
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:38 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: skylights vs. ceiling pockets

Am I understanding the standard correctly in that a ceiling pocket that
would otherwise require sprinklers may no longer require sprinklers if I
were to install a skylight in the pocket, regardless of depth etc.?  

If the answer is yes, any logical reasons one could offer would be helpful. 

Thanks,

Rich Richardson
Seattle Fire Department
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