You never know, some municipalities have outrageous tap fees when it comes to sprinkler systems. Sometimes you've to wonder if they think yard sprinklers instead of fire sprinklers because you've not going to be using fire sprinklers on a regular basis but they've got to generate revenue somehow.
Then if you've got to do a road cut/patch or bore, that's not real cheap either. But either way it would still seem to be a cheaper alternative than a pump and tank. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Design solution needed Now I'm actually crunching numbers on a day off and so am crazier than the GC. This seems to be a business decision on his part rather than an engineering question. It looks from Joel's latest response that it's loss of time being more costly than the pump/tank that's driving the decision.I can't imagine where tap fees, road openings, trenching and permits can cost more, so it must be delay penalties. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > Probably the only obstructions to bringing in a new main that would make a > pump and tank viable are railroad tracks, a river or a crevasse. Work up the > cost on the P&T and tell them it is either this or bring in a new > underground. 1-1/4" copper is not going to cut it. The P&T may sound crazy, > but stupider things have prevailed. > > > > >>I'm designing a system for a small restaurant, the kitchen is a OH-I >>occupancy, and the dining area is a LH occupancy, the available static >>pressure is 106 psi residual 62 psi with 751 gpm. My problem is that the >>incoming service is a 1¼", and to bring in a larger service is very expensive >>because of utilities and other obstruction that's in the way, the GC >>suggested that we put in a tank and booster pump, to me it sounds crazy to >>install a tank and pump for a building that's less than 4000 sq. ft. when you >>have available city pressure. >> >> >> >>Any ideas how to go about this, please advise. >> >> >> >>Best Regards, >> >> >> >>Joel Chaim | Nicet level II >> >> > > Todd G. Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, CT > 860.535.2080 > www.fpdc.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
