Interesting questions yes, but the standard talks only about the # of levels of 
protection, not the gross area of the design overhead.   

Steve Leyton




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Subject: Re: dry-pipe with in-rack/ceiling protection of Class IV to > 25 ft in 
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Scott,
     I think Scot Deal raised an interesting question.  He's correct in the 
increase in area of 30%, per 12.5.1, but the question remains, if we have 
in-rack sprinklers, do we increase the number of them flowing in a dry system 
calculation?  If so, why?  If not, why not?  The table Scot referenced doesn't 
allow the use of CMDA sprinklers without in-racks as well, so what do we do 
about the number flowing in the calc?

     Anyone have input on the answer?

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On 5/31/2012 10:13 AM, Scott A Futrell wrote:
> Scot,
>
> I don't see anything that sends you back to 11.2.3.2.5 to increase the 
> in-rack design requirement by 30%.  11.2.3.2.5 is an area of sprinkler 
> operation increase, not a number of design sprinklers increase.   
> Intuitively, yes.  Prescriptive, no.
>
> Scott Futrell
>   
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> Subject: dry-pipe with in-rack/ceiling protection of Class IV to>  25 
> ft in open racks
>
> 2010 NFPA 13
>
> When one uses dry-pipe with combination in-rack/ceiling sprinklers to protect 
> Class IV to greater than 25 ft per Table 16.3.1.1, the 30% increase applies 
> to both in-rack and overhead sprinklers, yes?
>
> scot deal
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