Scot-
IF FM, this may not work, but Quell (Vanquish if Pacific Rim) with fast water 
delivery and K17 sprinklers, does a great job with unheated storage. \
And let's face it, since the advent of ESFR, do most of us even remember how to 
do IRAS?
So I think you're spot-on with pushing for ceiling only solution to the 
problem, what owner wants IRAS today when they don't need them?
Ok, in unheated Quell situations, the owner that doesn't want a storage tank 
due to the large water demands :)
The water supply is usually what we see switching Quell opportunities back to 
roof/rack combos. 
If you can get that with the flow from the city, and you can't get the large 
supply (usually around 2500 gpm) Quell supply, then the water supply 
improvement (tank and pump, even if a break tank) are the deal breaking $. 

Some of this is more general than the instant project.


George L.  Church, Jr., CET  
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of å... ....
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: dry-pipe with in-rack/ceiling protection of Class IV to > 25 ft in 
open racks

Again,  hazard is  Group A/Class IV.
I hedge because the client is trying to downgrade to Class III.
The fact is that the average commodity by weight is 60% PE, and
  now they are out looking for some water-soaked wood pallets
  to change the weight % category.

Further to this client, they are in cold country, where it freezes in winter.
They don't want to heat their 300k sq. ft warehouse...so the dry-systems.

I begged them to go with FM approved ceiling-only large orifice sprinklers.  I 
have given them the reasons, including that the owner will be able to re-lease 
the building easier than if there were in-racks left behind in their warehouse, 
when this client leaves in 5 years time.

Best I can do, is admit my mistakes, document the uptakes, and
learn from the forum.   Thank you all for your wisdom.  My vote is in:
FM rocks.

scot deal
excelsior fire


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