It may be old but it is still all but universal
in acoustic concert music.
I think it is disingenuous to say that it is not.
How many symphony concerts have you been to
recently where the orchestra surrounded the audience.
The other way around, sure.
But I think this is just not true, that music
with the musicians around the audience is common.
Not in the statistical sense of percentage of
concerts where it happens.
Robert

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Dave Malham wrote:

Right on - as I've said before, frontal music is largely a development of 16th century Western civilisation and is not universal, even now.

By the way, be careful about the Gabrielli's in St. Marks - there is at least some evidence that separate choirs singing antiphonally were _not _used at St Mark's (see Bryant, D. "The Cori Spezzati of St. Mark's: Myth and Reality" in Early Music History, Cambridge 1981, p169).

  Dave


On 01/04/2012 10:20, Paul Hodges wrote:
--On 31 March 2012 18:34 -0700 Robert Greene <gre...@math.ucla.edu> wrote:

Of course music exists that is  not in front. But the vast bulk of
concert music is not like that.

Sure; but what proportion of music are we happy to be unable to reproduce properly? My organ music (admittedly as much as 20% of my listening) was a trivial example - and it's only in combination with other things that it becomes spatially interesting, generally. You mentioned Gabrieli and Berlioz in a slightly dismissive manner; I would add to them people like Stockhausen and Earle Brown, a folk group moving among their audience, a hall full of schoolchildren bouncing their sounds off each other from different parts of the hall. Not all within the restricted form of "concert music", but music in the real world where we turn our heads and enjoy our whole environment.

Paul


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