We could use bicycle=dismount also, which is even better since it allows routing on short segments for access purposes when there is only a footway to a building entrance
> On Apr 3, 2020, at 14:09, John Whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Since it is dependent on municipal bylaws then I think it should be > explicitly tagged. > > Cheerio John > > Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais wrote on 2020-04-03 2:05 PM: >> The reason why we were asked to add them is for pedestrian security >> assessment and urban planning. When all sidewalks and crossing are mapped, >> we can measure crossing distances and estimate the probability of accidents, >> which can save lives when the cities add curb extensions (avancées de >> trottoirs). We use openstreetmap data to convince government officials that >> it is statistically better to take them into account when planning new >> neighbourhoods or enhance existing ones. Also, it allows us to get better >> precision and calculate penalties when routiong at traffic signals which >> must be crossed twice by pedestrian at some intersections. OpenStreetMap >> objective is to map what is there with the best precision available. When >> aerial photography was not precise enough for sidewalks, it was not feasible >> to add them, but now we get precise aerial photos that permit better >> representativity of the physical world. I can tell you that the amount of >> precision and completeness in openstreetmap data will increase rapidly in >> the coming years. And the COVID-19 pandemy will increase the need for >> precise and complete mapping of urban environments, so we must deal with it >> accordingly. >> Mapping sidewalks as separate ways is now in the official wiki and has been >> accepted by the community by vote, so we must now find the best way to >> accomodate everyone. For now, I am just trying to know if we must add >> bicycle=no to them. >> >> About the routing directions, we must add the street names to sidewalks (as >> we do in my team), otherwise like Martin said, routing engines will tell >> people to turn left, turn right instead of turn left on A street, then turn >> right on B street, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 13:51, Harald Kliems <kli...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:kli...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:17 AM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca >>> <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: >>> What cities allow cycling on sidewalks anyway, seriously ? This sounds so >>> inadequate. That it is tolerated is one thing, but outright legal or >>> encouraged ? Makes no sense to me. >>> In the US that's pretty common. For example here in Madison (Wisconsin), >>> sidewalk riding is generally allowed by ordinance, except where buildings >>> directly abut the sidewalk (I manually tag those as bicycle=no). >>> Harald. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-ca mailing list >>> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca> > > -- > Sent from Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com/>
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