Well written! Having run Registration, by myself for a number of years, I can quietly report that I have allowed more than a few to attend TCR who could not afford it. Most of the time it was a quiet conversation with someone who had fallen on hard times and just needed a little bit of a break.
I never made a big deal of it and never reported it on the books. Oh, there were the normal goofballs who complained about having to pay full amount, but I ignored them and after they ran out of hot air they paid the proper fees. Hope all is well, Michael > On Aug 29, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Allan Cobb <a...@oztotl.com> wrote: > > I'm with Mr. Loving on this. When I read that line about people without > wristbands being thrown out, it raised my hackles. I ran TCR for a few years. > I know the problem of people not registering. However, I never would have > thrown people out for not registering. Is this what the community has > devolved into? > > There are a few cavers who always attend TCR, TSA Convention, etc. who pride > themselves on not paying. I know who they are. When I would see them, at TCR, > I would sometime make a comment to them, sometimes not. These are the same > people who would pride themselves out of paying a $1 fee on TSA projects. > > There are also cavers who paying the TCR registration would be a huge > financial burden due to hard times. I usually had a pretty good idea of who > those were. All they had to do was ask and I would comp them registration. I > get it, I've had hard times too. Some of them were too proud to ask. I knew > that too. I would have NEVER thrown those people out of TCR. They are part of > the community. > I always heard people complain that they should not have to pay because they > don't want to eat the meal. That's is a good point but the cost of the meal > is only a small part of the registration fee. I've had people ask me to have > a fee that doesn't include the meal. To them, I answered that the more > complicated registration becomes that harder it is to get people to do it and > the easier to make mistakes. > > That said, here's why you SHOULD register for TCR, TSA Conventions, etc. > These events require money. We have to pay for the site, we pay for > portapotties, we pay for many incidentals. If you are one of those people who > think you are too good to pay or it is a game not to pay, you are basically > stealing from other cavers. You are directly responsible for raising the > price for all of the cavers who pay. They costs are fixed for many of these > events. The cost is divided among those who attend and pay. If you don't pay, > your portion of the cost, your portion of the cost is passed on to other > cavers. If you choose not to pay, at least thank all the people who did pay > for paying your share as well. > > "Throw people out" for not registering, bad idea. Shame them a bit, I'm fine > with that. I am no longer running TCR so I don't really have any say in how > it works. In the past, TCR has always been about bringing cavers together, > the new cavers and us old cavers. TCR has been about friends getting together > and hanging out. TCR has always been about seeing old friends and making new > ones. However, if "throw them out" is the spirit of the "new" TCR, perhaps it > is time to end this long running tradition. > Allan Cobb > Retired TCR Big Cheese and Caver Wrangler > > >> On 8/29/2018 6:23 AM, Charles Loving wrote: >> I wrote a nasty comment on the getting thown out for not having the proper >> identity band but didn't post it. >> Old Man Wisdom >> >>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:11 PM TSA Membership Chair <trog...@cavechat.org> >>> wrote: >>> Hi all! >>> >>> We're still a little over a month out, but I figured I'd start the waters >>> churning for volunteers to help in shifts for registration. I've got a >>> number of shifts ranging from 2 to 4 hours that need to be filled. I'll be >>> there all shifts, but I need one other person to help me out with paperwork >>> and such for each shift. I also need an outgoing personality to spend some >>> time on Saturday wandering to each camp area to make sure everyone has >>> their wristband. >>> >>> I have been informed that if you don't have a wristband this year, you will >>> be kicked out... so... y'all should all register as soon as you get to camp >>> (cash or check only this year!)! >>> I'll send out a separate email closer to the date with registration info >>> for those who won't be volunteering, so you know when registration will be >>> open- dependent on how many volunteers I can get! >>> >>> If you are interested in volunteering, let me know in a separate email and >>> I'll let you know the shifts I've got still available! My email is >>> trog...@cavechat.org >>> >>> >>> Also... we'll have cookies. You know, if you need some incentive to help.. >>> ;) >>> >>> Happy caving and even happier volunteering! >>> >>> -Heather Tucek >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Go find out! >>> -Heather Tuček >>> TSA Membership Chair >>> NSS 59660 >>> (512) 773-1348 >>> members...@cavetexas.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> >> -- >> Charlie Loving >> >> Virus-free. www.avg.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
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