Kathy, I hope you always have many more good days than bad ones!!   After 
21 years, I was going to say that no one knows
     your body better than you do.   But, with TM that doesn't make much sense. 
   We think we know, then TM throws another
     wrench into things.             Keep up the good spirit!        Janice
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: LadyOwl1961 
  To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!


  I am a constant over doer. My theory is that when I feel good get it all done 
and then pay for it as I can never predict when I will feel well enough again 
to get to it.  It never crosses my mind that if I go slow today on a good day 
that it may last into tomorrow. Nope, not me.  After 21 years (as of this past 
Feb) of TM, I still have not stopped it and continue to do it.  My husband 
knows this and reminds me of it all the time. Even my doctors have told me to 
stop it but I just can’t. My doctor has learned not to tell me to NOT do things 
as he knows I will just go ahead and do specifically what he told me not to. 
Ever the actress I would attend things I should not have and then paid for it 
for days.  I must say though that during this occurrence things are very 
different. I have some new symptoms that seem to knock me off my feet, 
literally (burning pain in feet) and arms get very tired, very fast (typing, 
making tea or coffee, brushing teeth, showering, and even holding the phone 
receiver).  I am hoping that this will lessen with time and that they are not 
going to become the norm for me. Today is the first day that I am getting back 
on my normal medication regime after a month of upping and lowering my dosages 
and I made it till 10:30 am with taking a pain killer so I would have to say 
this is a good day. 

  Have a GOOD day all

  Kathy

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Janice 
    To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com ; balmat...@aol.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:42 AM
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!


         Barbara,  as I told Rob, we can, can, can learn new tricks.    With 
our bodies, we have to.   I hated to read that you suffered
        for 3 days after swimming - how awful for you.    I can  and have done 
the same thing doing things around the house - so I
        know what you feel when you just don't want to stop.  BUT, again, with 
our bodies, we have to.       I hope you never
        have that kind of pain for that long a time ever again!!           
Janice

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: balmat...@aol.com 
      To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com 
      Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:23 AM
      Subject: Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!


      Rob, I can relate totally to what you said about exercise, pain and 
overdoing it.  How do we find a happy medium, keep it up, and keep our bodies 
happy with the level and intensity?  Yeah right!

      Moderation, sure!  But, as I am doing the exercise most of the time I 
feel great and don't feel that I am overdoing it at all.  I also have a very 
poor habit of giving up on it from time to time due to pain issues and thinking 
it may be better not to exercise which I've found is also a bad idea.  The 
worse thing I can do is to stop making it a part of my routine, it's too easy 
to let it go and not get it done.  Once I do that, I'm done.  I cannot find a 
happy medium for my body.  

      I was in the pool the other night with my grandsons and didn't realize 
how much time had passed.  That night I couldn't sleep due to the pain and 
spasms, and the next two days were pretty bad.  I was actually worse than I'd 
been in a long time.  After 10 yrs you'd think the mind/body connection would 
be made but it hasn't in my case.  My mind forgets to engage and think about my 
limits.  

      Hugs to all,
      Barbara A


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Janice <jan...@centurytel.net>
      To: Robert Pall <rp...@neillsupply.com>; Tmic-list@eskimo.com
      Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 8:49 pm
      Subject: Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!

      0A 
      Robert,
      I did water aerobics for about 5 years before TM hit.   I started it 
because of arthritis in my back.  Exercise done in water should
      not make you sore unless you are over doing it.   You really need to 
think hard about moderation when you first begin and add
      more slowly.    Sure hope it helps you.   I would give my eye teeth to 
get back in the water, but am not ready yet.   Someday soon
      I hope.        Good luck.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Robert Pall 
        To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com 
        Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:26 AM
        Subject: [TMIC] Every now and then!


                I refuse to even discuss the petty arguments and disagreements 
that seem to happens several times a year. To discuss them actually provides 
legitimacy to the di scussion. Stop being so quick to argue and remember the 
purpose of the list. No one needs to take sides….if what is written does not 
apply or offers words you do not care for…just delete it!
                Do you ever think of how a new visitor to the site reacts to 
bickering….my guess is it turns them off…and that is a tragedy! If one member 
has a problem with what someone else says. why not try to just contact that 
person directly and not to the group as a whole. Remember we are all in this 
together and inevitably when these things occur the next thing that happens is 
we see the word "unsubscribe". When one is in 24/7 pain and discomfort it is 
easy to pick a fight or disagreement…anything at all to avoid what is really 
the problem. TM
        New topic: Exercise 
                Exercise….when is enough enough? 
                I tend to exercise in spurts….I am either following a regular 
routine or giving into my pain and discomfort and doing nothing at all!  I am 
not very good at knowing when I am overdoing it and therefore make the same 
mistakes over and over. After pretty much doing nothing for the past 6 months I 
am now back to swimming 3-4 times per week and I have never felt worse. My legs 
feel w eighed down and I am walking far worse than normal. The level of 
discomfort and Pain are also off my charts. So what do I do….probably stop 
exercising and see if my legs feel better….that being said we have had horribly 
huimid,wet weather in the New York area the entire month of June…so I am not 
certain if the over exercising or the weather is making the TM flare up. Even 
after 12 years I have not really learned to listen to my body….part of this is 
due to the fact that I am not in discomfort while exercising….but hours later 
it is as if my body is just realizing I over did it and I have to pay the price.
                My main exercise is swimming (and a little treadmill)….for the 
first 10 years of TM I had far fewer breaks from the exercise routine …and then 
all of a sudden when I hit 60 I kinda gave up and threw in the towel….I kinda 
just quit. I felt hopeless and helpless…therefore I just started back on my 
routine…and so far the pain far outweighs the gain.
                I will attempt to introduce "moderation" to my exercise and try 
to remember I am closing in on 62 so I would guess non related TM problems are 
beginning to surface such as arthritis. I still have a lot on my plate…I drive 
80 miles a day to work and sometimes I am just so exhausted that the 
thought20of a workout is something I cannot handle. That being said I do find 
that when I let myself get out of shape and gain addl. Weight I always feel 
worse…and I can assure you that this is not a vanity issue. 
                I would appreciate hearing from the group as to what exercises 
works for them…how do you know when you are over doing it? I am seeing Dr. Kerr 
on Weds and will pose the question to him…I have a feeling he will stress 
moderation and developing a routine that will keep my muscles from atrophying 
while a t the same time not exhausting me to the point of pain.
                OK…enough for now…let's get back on topic! 
        Rob in New Jersey 


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