DavidM says Well, the Bible has several quotes from writings which we do not currently have in our Bible. This suggests that there are Scriptures beyond what is in our Bible.
Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Don't you wish we had the book of First Cretian!
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judy wrote:
> The scriptures themselves are either a
> dead letter or a living epistle ...
It seems like you are putting me into the position of saying that
Scriptures do not minister life. That is not my intention. I'm trying
to draw a distinction between God's Word which comes from a living
person called the Christ and God's Word written down in ink. If you
take away my contrast of "written" and "living," then what do you
suggest we use to refer to Christ being the living Word of God?
David Miller wrote:
>> There also is a difference between Scripture
>> and the Bible. Both are the written word of
>> God, but Scripture includes more than what is
>> found in the Bible. Do you want to talk about
>> this?
Judy wrote:
> I would be curious to see what you come up with
One of the criteria used for determining which books made it into the
Bible is whether or not it is quoted by Jesus or another inspired person
as being considered Scripture. Well, the Bible has several quotes from
writings which we do not currently have in our Bible. This suggests
that there are Scriptures beyond what is in our Bible. Now this does
not mean that our Bibles are insufficient for us. God knows what
Scriptures our generation needs. However, it appears to me that
different generations might have had different Scriptures.
Jude 14, 15 quotes the book of Enoch.
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying,
Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute
judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of
all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all
their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude
1:14-15 KJV)
While we have a book of Enoch (see our library web page at
www.InnGlory.org), there is some dispute about whether these versions
that we do have are authentic (the one that Jude was actually quoting
from). In any case, this book is not in the Bible, but it is Scripture
or Jude would not quote from it like he did.
2 Chron. 33:18-19 refers to the "sayings of the seers."
Now the rest of the acts of Manasseh, and his prayer unto his God, and
the words of the seers that spake to him in the name of the LORD God of
Israel, behold, they are written in the book of the kings of Israel. His
prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sin, and his
trespass, and the places wherein he built high places, and set up groves
and graven images, before he was humbled: behold, they are written among
the sayings of the seers. (2 Chronicles 33:18-19 KJV)
2 Chron. 35:25 refers to another book of lamentations written before the
book of lamentations of Jeremiah, which we have in our Bibles.
And Jeremiah lamented for Josiah: and all the singing men and the
singing women spake of Josiah in their lamentations to this day, and
made them an ordinance in Israel: and, behold, they are written in the
lamentations. (2 Chronicles 35:25 KJV)
Luke 24:46-47 seems to quote Scripture which we do not have.
And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to
suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and
remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations,
beginning at Jerusalem. (Luke 24:46-47 KJV)
We have no record of the following quote ("he shall be called a
Nazarene"):
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be
fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a
Nazarene. (Matthew 2:23 KJV)
Who was James quoting in the following passage:
Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth
in us lusteth to envy? (James 4:5 KJV)
The following verse does not appear to have come from the gospels or any
other Scripture that we have:
I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support
the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It
is more blessed to give than to receive. (Acts 20:35 KJV)
In Acts 15:23, it indicates letters were written and sent to the
churches in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia. While Luke gives us the
abbreviated version of what these letters said, we don't have them in
our Bibles today. If we did have them, they would probably have been
included in the Bible.
1 Cor. 5:9 indicates that there was another letter written to the
Corinthians. I see no reason not to consider this other letter to have
been Scripture.
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators... (1
Corinthians 5:9 KJV)
Anyway, I think you get my drift on this...
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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