David:Are you aware of: Govett, Whipple, GHLang? I believe they call it kingdom theology? They teach just what you teach. I carry their books. Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 20, 2004 12:51 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
> David Miller wrote: > >> All men will be judged for their works, but those who > >> are found in Christ have been pardoned for their past > >> sins. Therefore, the judgment of their works is to examine > >> the fruit of their ministry and to give rewards and crowns > >> for what they have done. > > DAVEH: > > So.....if I am understanding you correctly, there will > > be a double standard. You apparently believe those saved > > will be judged differently than those not saved.....correct? > > No, the judgment is the same, based upon works, but the past crimes of > the believer is brought against him in regards to criminal charges. The > pardon of God in this case is no more a double standard than it would be > a double standard in our own legal system to have a way of granting > pardons. > > The thing that a lot of Christians seem to miss is that both believers > and unbelievers will be judged for their works. I preach to Christians > all the time who retort that God will not judge them for their works > because of Jesus Christ. They think they can get drunk on the weekends > and fornicate, and God accepts them just as they are because of the > vicarious atonement provided by Jesus Christ. My response to them is > that they are deceived. All men will be resurrected and all men will > come before Jesus Christ and be judged for what they have done. The > only difference for the believer is if he has repented of his sins and > has been set free of his sins. Such a believer will not have criminal > charges brought against him based upon his past sins. Those have been > pardoned. Nevertheless, the fruit of his works will be examined just as > they are for the sinner, but the reason is not to show his condemnation > because the works of the believer are of Christ and therefore righteous. > Why then examine them? To see how they brought forth good fruit unto > the kingdom of God. > > David Miller wrote: > >> Nevertheless, any "Christian" found to be a fornicator, > >> homosexual, thief, murderer, extortioner, or covetous, > >> etc. will be judged as other sinners are judged. > > DAVEH: > > ??? Even if they are saved they will suffer the wrath > > of the Lord? > > No, these would be Christians who are damned to eternal damnation. > These are the hypocrites, the religious "Pharisees and scribes" of our > day who continue in sin while at the same time profess faith in Christ. > > DaveH wrote: > > IF their sins are forgiven as evidenced by their > > salvation, then why would they not be exempt? > > Evidence of their salvation would be keeping the commandments of Jesus > Christ. Therefore, "Christians" who are homosexuals, thieves, > murderers, extortioners, or covetous are not saved. > > "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? > BE NOT DECEIVED: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor > effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor > covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit > the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV) > > Peace be with you. > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.