David:Are you aware of: Govett, Whipple, GHLang? I believe they call it
kingdom theology? They teach just what you teach. I carry their books. Lance
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: May 20, 2004 12:51
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ


> David Miller wrote:
> >> All men will be judged for their works, but those who
> >> are found in Christ have been pardoned for their past
> >> sins.  Therefore, the judgment of their works is to examine
> >> the fruit of their ministry and to give rewards and crowns
> >> for what they have done.
>
> DAVEH:
> > So.....if I am understanding you correctly, there will
> > be a double standard.  You apparently believe those saved
> > will be judged differently than those not saved.....correct?
>
> No, the judgment is the same, based upon works, but the past crimes of
> the believer is brought against him in regards to criminal charges.  The
> pardon of God in this case is no more a double standard than it would be
> a double standard in our own legal system to have a way of granting
> pardons.
>
> The thing that a lot of Christians seem to miss is that both believers
> and unbelievers will be judged for their works.  I preach to Christians
> all the time who retort that God will not judge them for their works
> because of Jesus Christ.  They think they can get drunk on the weekends
> and fornicate, and God accepts them just as they are because of the
> vicarious atonement provided by Jesus Christ.  My response to them is
> that they are deceived.  All men will be resurrected and all men will
> come before Jesus Christ and be judged for what they have done.  The
> only difference for the believer is if he has repented of his sins and
> has been set free of his sins.  Such a believer will not have criminal
> charges brought against him based upon his past sins.  Those have been
> pardoned.  Nevertheless, the fruit of his works will be examined just as
> they are for the sinner, but the reason is not to show his condemnation
> because the works of the believer are of Christ and therefore righteous.
> Why then examine them?  To see how they brought forth good fruit unto
> the kingdom of God.
>
> David Miller wrote:
> >> Nevertheless, any "Christian" found to be a fornicator,
> >> homosexual, thief, murderer, extortioner, or covetous,
> >> etc. will be judged as other sinners are judged.
>
> DAVEH:
> > ???  Even if they are saved they will suffer the wrath
> > of the Lord?
>
> No, these would be Christians who are damned to eternal damnation.
> These are the hypocrites, the religious "Pharisees and scribes" of our
> day who continue in sin while at the same time profess faith in Christ.
>
> DaveH wrote:
> > IF their sins are forgiven as evidenced by their
> > salvation, then why would they not be exempt?
>
> Evidence of their salvation would be keeping the commandments of Jesus
> Christ.  Therefore, "Christians" who are homosexuals, thieves,
> murderers, extortioners, or covetous are not saved.
>
> "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
> BE NOT DECEIVED: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
> effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor
> covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit
> the kingdom of God."  (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV)
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
>
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