Hi there, Thanks for the heads-up on this. I've passed this to relevant Canonical team for consideration. I wasn't involved with the merchandise design, only the store software, so I can't offer anything further on this topic.
Joey On 8/20/07, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Adding Joey to cc (Joey, see below: please pass on if appropriate). > > I tend to agree. > > Having a new, different slogan on the back of the ladies t-shirt seems > to be singling out a particular type of user. And given that the idea > behind the original slogan was that Ubuntu makes linux easier for a > category of people (human beings) who are less able than geeks to > understand technology, it's easy to see how people might get the > impression (however unintentional) that the new slogan attempts to > suggest that women are less able than other types of human beings. > > On a related note, if new slogans are going to be developed (although > I don't know how much this new slogan is intended to be used in other > fields, I suspect not), it would be pretty cool to involve the > community in such discussions so that their ideas and objections like > this could be taken into account. Given that Ubuntu is a > community-driven distro, I think that it would be justified to involve > the community in that sort of discussion: the marketing list would > probably be the most appropriate place. > > -- > Matthew East > http://www.mdke.org > gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF > > > On 20/08/07, Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hey all, > > > > No idea who's behind this marketing decision, but... > > > > http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/08/20/linux-for-ladies/ > > > > As discussed in #debian-women earlier...does that mean that ladies are > > no longer human beings now? > > > > [19:15] <seanius> i'll defer to the "ladies" on whether it is or not, > > but i would read that line as "because normal linux is too hard for ladies" > > [19:18] <liw> hmm... that'd imply that ubuntu's "linux for human beings" > > implies normal linux is too hard for humans? > > [19:19] <Sharrow> That and the men's shirt says "linux for human beings" > > implying that ladies are some weird subset with these odd sticky out bits. > > [19:24] <Baby> yup, saw it, it really sucks > > <snip> > > [19:26] <Baby> well, we're not human beings anymore. I guess :) > > [19:26] <Baby> according to Ubuntu at least :P > > > > > > This is important, as it seems to be (unintentionally, i'm sure) > > offending half of the world's population, and so therefore half of the > > possible candidates who may end up using Ubuntu. > > > > It's food for thought, at least - please CC the relevant people beyond > > this mailing list. > > > > Hobbsee > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFGyYcN7/o1b30rzoURArxlAJ9Tg+7HFApn6hkyiDTzQmaAitFBAgCfcfvw > > iINED/eBd57zzch/udUGE/A= > > =ajDo > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > ubuntu-marketing mailing list > > ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing > > > -- Office: +1-303-800-6609, Skype: happyhacking, IRC: Rinchen -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
