On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 12:07 -0400, Jeremy Anderson wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 00:17 +1000, Sarah Hobbs wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > < Sending the mail to the list this time, as Chris has gone and > > published part of what was a private mail, so as not to raise a flame > > war. Needless to say, that wish is now pointless. > > > > > Chris Rowson wrote: > > > Stuff like this drives me round the twist to be honest.... > > > > > > Why on Earth is there this subset of people who choose to see > > > disrespect, problems and offense where there is obviouslly non meant! > > > It's almost like people are looking for something to gripe about! > > > > > > 'Linux for Ladies' > > > > > > Take that term. How is it offensive? > > > > > > Do a google search for the phrase "for the ladies" - Observe 1,950,000 > > > results. Are all of these offensive? > > > > > > Come on now.... > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > When I don't get harassed repeatedly due to Ubuntu, and can use my real > > name on irc, and in launchpad, etc, and be known for who I am, and not > > for being female, then i'll agree with you. As it is, I tend to only > > raise the stuff that I think is worth raising, precisely because of > > reactions like yours. > > > > Now, if the idea here is to gripe, perhaps i'll gripe about the users > > who harass myself and others, in day to day irc - which, of course, you > > can do nothing about. > > > > Hobbsee > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFGyaKQ7/o1b30rzoURAvLsAJ9euGUhit7kQ7pSqeQrT8L2RM7hkQCfQzC0 > > /EeFgOlRR0Im7ovvPF//84g= > > =DjV3 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >
Hi everyone! I was not to add anything to this ongoing discussion, but I guess here I should. When I saw the site couple days ago, I went there, and was very pleased to see women-fitted t-shirts. And I was actually to order one. But I saw the back of the shirt. > Holy crap. What kind of world do we live in when a freaking t-shirt > has to be analyzed for political correctness. Did anyone see the boobs > on the picture of this t-shirt… ? It's not political correctness. I went to look at the men shirt. I would have found odd that the well-known Ubuntu slogan had disappeared for "linux for gentlemen" and "linux for ladies", and was about to complain about _that_: where is the "linux for human beings" gone? But it was gone only from one gender side... > I would think that would mean that this t-shirt would be for ladies. Yes, and the others are for human beings. Why? Or ladies are not human beings? It's awkward. > I think everyone in the Ubuntu Community is awesome no matter what > their gender, race, religion, etc… A t-shirt is not to hurt feelings. > It is to brag that you are part of this community. So which one? Why single out ladies? > I would wear “Ubuntu for blonde haired, blue eyed, male, that likes > to cook and ski on his free time” if it would make a difference. Yes, I could do something like that too, because it would describe _me_ and myself only, and not just put me in a generic gender bag relative to a human as a whole bag. > The neat thing about freedom is that you could add anything you would > like to the back of that t-shirt and it will be o.k. My wife agrees > with me on this and so does several other woman that use Ubuntu only > with no Windoze in their life. Most of whom are probably going to > order this shirt just to piss off the ones that think it belittles > them…. Move on to bigger and better arguments. So you see, if that shirt had the usual Ubuntu slogan on it, we would never have been talking about it this way. This one creates division, arguments, and therefore is not appropriate. I emailed the Canonical Store on their website for feedback. Peace, Isabelle. -- bapoumba -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
