Ric,
I want to publicly thank you for confronting the use of a straw man.
One of the reasons that this technique is so ubiquitous is to intimidate
and silence everyone else.
Tony knows that he will never silence or intimidate me. He is trying to
send a message to the rest of the list and community when he attempts
these techniques. His message is all about power.
Anyone who dares to question the abuse of power is to watch how he
attempts to crush his target.
Confronting these techniques empowers others in this community to stand
up and speak out! In the end, bully's are exposed.
Thanks,
Glenn
PS: The other FOCP board members have left Tony unleashed to use these
tactics against this community for years. WHAT DOES THEIR SILENCE SAY
ABOUT THE FOCP BOARD????
On 4/29/2011 12:43 AM, Richard Conrad wrote:
You are reading in. You don't play fair. You just can't admit it.
Glenn does not say as Darco implied that "people were excluded from
the park" (and actually people have been - you and everyone else can
probably realize that people are routinely told to leave the park, for
sleeping overnight and other reasons). Maybe Glenn refers to private
Clark Park banquets with high priced entry fees. Maybe he refers to
private gatherings hosted by Penn where the public is excluded. 'Penn
Control' is something about which while Glenn has held back from
giving it ultimate vilification, he warns people to be concerned.
'Secrecy' is the most difficult to prove (duh, it's a secret), but in
any case you ridicule by hyperbole, misrepresent his remarks, and say
things that are not true.
You now seem to be practically accusing me of being a Trump conspiracy
talk supporter. You clearly haven't read much of what I have written
(or you are resorting to damaging written public falsification again).
I am actually a true "Balder" who believes Donald Trump can't be Pres.
because he can't prove his hair was born in the U.S.A. Here is
something of mine I posted to FB:
"Saying Trump appeals to masochistic dupes with no sense of
mathematics, to sadistic voyeurs who wish they had balls, or to racist
instincts in those of lesser intelligence, is all the same... they're
just the facts Jack!"
Bill Mahr did better: Bill Maher says, "Hey Trump, what's the "biggest
scam ever" NOW? I'd say its a guy with 3 bankruptcies telling America
how to get its financial house in order."
"Crackpot." That is what you say Tony, instead of answering others
criticisms! Surely you are big enough to deal with others concerns
and not to only resort to name calling. Be fair.
Rick
On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Anthony West wrote:
Richard,
I quote from Glenn's text, which Darco and I have read quite clearly:
"The master plan for 'revitalization' of Clark Park was always a
master plan for secrecy, exclusion of the public, and Penn control!"
Glenn has, for years, been publishing on this list false allegations
that various users were *planned to be excluded from the park *by
this nefarious conspiracy. Since none of them ever were, in fact,
excluded from the physical park, and there were, in fact, no plans
that any users should be excluded from the park -- he is now
attempting to befuddle you -- as well as unsuspecting newcomers -- by
pretending some users were excluded from *planning for the park. *And
he's trying to muddle the two together with murky conspiracy-theory
language, where what we're talking about shifts every time a claim of
fact is contested.
Of course, nothing of the sort ever happened. (There wasn't any
"secrecy" or any "Penn control" either.) I looked into these
allegations very carefully in 2002-03.
Typical Trump talk, in my opinion. But if this is what floats your
boat, I sure can't stop you. Conspiracy-theory crackpots never run
out of gas, do they?
--Tony West
On 4/28/2011 11:28 PM, Richard Conrad wrote:
O.K. let's get real! Darco represents Glenn as saying something he
did not. Darco asks:
"do you have evidence of people being excluded from the park?"
Glenn did not ever say in his communique that people were excluded
from the park.
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