For your first response, I find it odd that some are saying they get too many and now it is said that they don't want to limit it. I can see it both ways, but when you say they don't want to limit it, to me I see they want more for less. Not saying that's bad, everyone does it and it's part of economics and how the industry works. I just don't like getting a job I thought was good to later find out that my pay is not industry average. Your second and third points I agree with, but I personally don't see how that stops the employer from at least giving a minimum. As for your fourth point, I agree that it shouldn't be broadcast who gets paid what, but if there is that big of a gap that could be a red flag. You may hire someone who really is worth that much and not have anyone else on board that has those skills, but in that case it should be obvious why they are being paid more. But if that isn't the case, then it seems more like they don't want existing employees finding out that they can pay more for what they do. Which is the situation I feel I'm in now. For the fifth, I don't disagree, but again I don't see how this prohibits an employer from at least listing a minimum. Which could also be the average of what they are paying for current employees so the fourth point isn't as much of a problem.
I do appreciate all the feedback and the view from the other side of things, but I still just don't see a reason not to list a minimum. I know it's my personal feelings that I have to get over, but I just don't want to get taken advantage of again. --Brian On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:30:35 -0600, Chris Wood wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Brian J. Rogers > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Today I was looking around at possible job openings, but not really >> committed to finding a job. I'm just keeping an eye on what is >> available. It seemed like every job posting I found always listed >> "Depends on Experience/DOE" under the pay. Am I the only one that >> gets >> irritated by this? > > Having posted jobs this same way, I think there are a variety of > reasons for using this: > > - The employer doesn't want to limit the variety of applicants > because > they did put a $ amount in there. > > - The job requirements aren't set in stone. If you find somebody > with > a slightly different skill set that may even cost more, the job > description can change and you hire that person. I think this can > happen a lot in small companies where people wear several hats. I > have done this. > > - The employer may not really know what the position costs to fill. > Or, they may want to leave that up to negotiation. > > - The employer may have a policy internally that employees don't know > the salaries of each other. By posting a range, they are putting > that > information out there. > > - In the IT world, employers get people with a large difference in > skills applying for jobs. In some positions, the employer has to > make > the decision to train somebody that costs less or hire somebody that > is ready to go. Maybe the employer hires two juniors instead of one > senior. Again, the employer may want that option and doesn't list > the > price. _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list [email protected] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
