There is the key though. I'm an engineer, not a salesman. I don't mind 
 negotiations, they are good. What is bad is when one party isn't willing 
 to give what is necessary to get what they want. I should know what my 
 skills are worth, what I can do, and how well I can do it. That way I 
 don't waste mine and someone else's time with applying for jobs I'm not 
 qualified for.

 That is not to say that these DOE listings are willing to pay what is 
 necessary, but it gives the impression of not listing a price means they 
 can be vague about things that should be upfront about. I agree with 
 Victor, the pay is a big determining factor, don't dodge it or be 
 ambiguous.

 On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:44:17 -0600, Trevyn Meyer wrote:
> Just curious if you think negotiating tactics are good or bad?  and 
> if
> so for who?
>
> I have a hunch, most engineers would say bad.  Sales persons would 
> say good.
>
> Trevyn

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