Wow, in a friendly mood today aren't we?
Don't be so quick to judge people.Keep in mind that OFBiz supports companies that don't track inventory in OFBiz, and currently most companies don't do book keeping in OFBiz.
It doesn't mean it's sloppy or bad or from malicious intent or that the people who want to do things this way are incompetent, or that the analysts who designed it or developers who created it are incompetent.
OFBiz is a collaborative community working together to create a system that can be used (hopefully without too much customization) in a wide variety of businesses and a wide variety of requirements for interactions with other systems and such.
Please try not to undermine that. It is the foundation of this effort. If you want something done about this, please frame it in that light.
-David On Oct 24, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Skip wrote:
DaveI agree that this is a big hole/bug. On the other hand, there are folks who don't mind/prefer the sloppiness (I have a customer just like that). So,perhaps we could use a property to define the behavior, like: ilikesloppybookkeeping=true/false (tongue in cheek) However, I would be happy to collaborate to get this done. I wantrequirements and automatic backorders issued for out of stock etc for quick ship. I was just about to start work on this. We could modify the existing service to look for a property and if it exists, do the better bookkeeping /automatic ordering.This is a hole for me because if my customer has a customer at the counter and is selling him some stuff and part of it is on back order, he has to exit out of the sales order screen and go to the shipping screen to get it all done right. It's a pain and will happen 10 times a day for him. Fixingthe quickship will take care of it. Maybe with the configurable property, the muckity-mucks won't be so reluctant to accept it. Skip -----Original Message----- From: David E Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:24 PM To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: shipments made for out of stock items On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote:The more I think about this, it seems inappropriate for an ERP system to allow this. Why would the quick ship service allow a user to charge a customers credit card and "ship" a physical product that the system "knew" was not available?For some users the system doesn't know everything...Before charging the card, the sales person would want to confirm that the goods were actually available. Once this was confirmed, it would take a facility worker 30 seconds to adjust the inventory, leaving an audit trail etc.Yes, but not everyone wants to use it this way.To me this seems like a JIRA issue, which should be fixed. I'll submit the issue and we'll submit a fix.It will most likely be rejected. -DavidDave Tenerowicz wrote:Thank you! David E Jones wrote:Well, there ya go! The quick ship order stuff doesn't check stock levels... -David On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote:Yes, I should have mentioned that we created a new service to automatically create shipments. It calls quickShipOrder as part of it's processing. -Dave David E Jones wrote:What do you mean by "being created"? There isn't really anything that automatically creates shipments, unless a human does it through some UI like the shipment or packing screens (or a service or something was written to automatically do it somehow). -David On Oct 22, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote:It appears that shipments are being created with out of stock items in an implementation we are doing. I am guessing this is due to product store settings, not a code issue. rev = 545314 check inventory=Y reserve inventory=Y require inventory=N All products are finished goods (no digital or virtual) Thanks for any help. -- Dave Tenerowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 303.493.6727 Mobile 303.906.6116 Fax 303.814.8330 Visit us at http://www.salmonllc.com For ERP Information: http://www.salmonllc.com/Jsp/vanity/ ERP_CRM.jsp?nav=2&NavBarId=ERP_CRMServices-- Dave Tenerowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 303.493.6727 Mobile 303.906.6116 Fax 303.814.8330 Visit us at http://www.salmonllc.com For ERP Information: http://www.salmonllc.com/Jsp/vanity/ ERP_CRM.jsp?nav=2&NavBarId=ERP_CRMServices-- Dave Tenerowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 303.493.6727 Mobile 303.906.6116 Fax 303.814.8330 Visit us at http://www.salmonllc.com For ERP Information: http://www.salmonllc.com/Jsp/vanity/ ERP_CRM.jsp?nav=2&NavBarId=ERP_CRMServices
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