Yep, PL/I was a great language. My first stunt was opening up partitioned dataset and treating it as sequential to play with the header. Yes, I had backups.
I worked for a consulting organization for a while. I was at that time a network person, but the first thing they did was put me in as site lead for a 200+ node HP-UX site. I had touched HP-UX twice, being mostly a SunOS and DEC Ultrix (Berkeley UNIX) person. No crash course offered, just threw me into the pool and see if I could take a broken site / team and fix it. Fun times . . . /mde/ ----- Original Message ---- From: michel <compu...@videotron.ca> To: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org> Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 7:21:58 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant Just to mess with you, it's really PL/I ... It was a fantastic, leading edge language that should have had a much better future than it really did. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Winston" <satchwins...@yahoo.com> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:53 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant I was a PL-I expert. That's why I know it's spelled PL-I (roman numerals not arabic. I always thought this was funny) On Sep 24, 2010, at 9:49 PM, michel wrote: > Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about actually > being on a project under those conditions. > > > Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ... > > > Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the best > darned language that never managed to get a good market share. It was > said that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days all > you need is a crash course to be an expert! > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com> > To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <users@tomcat.apache.org> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM > Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant > > > That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they sent me > to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions of > Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. Then > they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for my > time. > I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca] >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM >> To: Tomcat Users List >> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant >> >> I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't a big 5, but had some >> pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me in >> Denver on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I could >> become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on different >> projects. >> >> Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, and >> then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got canned >> ... >> >> I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this nonsense. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Martin Gainty" <mgai...@hotmail.com> >> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org> >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM >> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant >> >> >> >> triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a >> 1000 brooks brothers suit >> >> add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg >> >> BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi >> translator for spanish >> >> how about unisys??? >> >> Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU >> Martin Gainty >> ______________________________________________ >> No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias >> >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400 >> > Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant >> > From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com >> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org >> > >> > I should have copyrights on my name. LOL >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com] >> > >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM >> > >> To: Tomcat Users List >> > >> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant >> > >> >> > >> Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company. >> > > >> > > >> > > Esto si que sonó gracioso. >> > > Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los >> > > cuales >> > > se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy. >> > >> But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of >> the >> > >> Big-5. >> > >> >> > >> Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while >> > >> Websphere is an application server. >> > >> Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to >> migrate >> > >> it >> > >> to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application >> > > server. >> > >> >> > >> -Jorge >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz >> > >> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: >> > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > >> > >> > To whom it may concern, >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote: >> > >> >> My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a > J2EE >> > >> >> web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we >> are >> > >> >> looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance >> > >> >> of >> > >> >> tomcat. >> > >> > >> > >> > Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to > set >> > >> > it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean "trusted"? >> > >> > >> > >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting >> firm >> > >> >> that could provide these services? >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very >> > >> > happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an > instance >> > >> > of Tomcat for you. >> > >> > >> > >> > - -chris >> > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) >> > >> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkyc5o4ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAjugCgiACwh5crjW+HXMKbzAWc+ >> > >> A27 >> > >> > dC4AoJjm6Dgs7FbMPrD3VBBdZl48VXas >> > >> > =vADj >> > >> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > > >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > > >> > > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > Donald Paul Winston satchwins...@yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
